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Re: Malta Playmobil Prosecution and Sentencing
« Reply #40 on: September 14, 2011, 17:49:00 »
Goebra moved the factory to Malta to exploit cheep labor and now they complain that they do not act the same as high paid labor  :hmm:

 Sorry Geobra you can not save your cake and eat it too  :hellol:

I don't see why cheap labour should be assumed to be less honest than high paid labour.  In fact, when you look at some of the cases that get to court, it's the high paid people who fiddle the books and cheat on their expenses.
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Re: Malta Playmobil Prosecution and Sentencing
« Reply #41 on: September 14, 2011, 17:51:37 »
Not getting into the debate if cheap labor is the problem (and I don't think it is), if they really have the practice of taking "parts home to assemble sets and figures", it's a sure recipe for disaster.
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Re: Malta Playmobil Prosecution and Sentencing
« Reply #42 on: September 14, 2011, 20:05:59 »
Not getting into the debate if cheap labor is the problem (and I don't think it is), if they really have the practice of taking "parts home to assemble sets and figures", it's a sure recipe for disaster.

I believe that assembly at home now is rare and possibly even ended as new machinery has been introduced some time ago which assembles figures automatically.  In any case, from what I heard, the problem was not the home workers so much as parts and figures being smuggled out of the factory.

The question of what is cheap labour is a difficult one, but "cheap" doesn't necessarily mean poorly paid.

EDIT: Moreover, cheap labour in itself doesn't lead to low labour costs per item produced, and that's what manufacturer's are interested in.
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Re: Malta Playmobil Prosecution and Sentencing
« Reply #43 on: September 14, 2011, 20:55:12 »
Something I just noticed here is that the two cases may be related the 2 individuals in the 2009 case would seem to be suppliers for the current case. If this is in fact what is going on here, then it really is just one big stolen goods case... IE not as big a deal as it would seem.

Note: not that theft isn't a big deal but that these kinds of cases happen all the time everywhere and have no effect on 99% of what people are doing.
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Re: Malta Playmobil Prosecution and Sentencing
« Reply #44 on: September 14, 2011, 22:28:18 »
I don't see why cheap labour should be assumed to be less honest than high paid labour.  In fact, when you look at some of the cases that get to court, it's the high paid people who fiddle the books and cheat on their expenses.

Really, ok if that is how you view it you certainly are entitled to it. Cheap factory labor usually do not have any access to any accounts that would give them the opportunity to do such things. The only opportunity they have is to fill their pockets with some misc. parts. Yes at the end of the day the white collar crime will add up to more loss in $$ seeing as one person can steal millions with the strike of a computer button and it would take years or low skilled, cheep labor thievery to add up to those figures. On a per case situation I put my money on the daily little stuff that goes missing.
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Re: Malta Playmobil Prosecution and Sentencing
« Reply #45 on: September 14, 2011, 22:51:25 »
I think underpaid workers are indeed more likely to steal from their workplace.... little pay = employee discontent = lack of company loyalty. If you pay workers next to nothing, you can't expect them to be fiercely loyal. not there aren't a lot of people out there who are honest under all circumstances anyway. But low wages don't help with those who are slightly inclined to resort to stealing (which truth were known is probably most people if they're desperate enough to feed their families). For one thing, as I said, they are more desperate for money, but also, if they get fired from that low-paying job, they can always move on to the next low-paying job. That fact can be seen from all the gum-chomping minimum-wage workers at fast food joints and grocery stores here. They have no pride in their work or company loyalty, and so they don't care if they do their job well or not, there's nothing magical about this job, they hate it anyway. Except of course for the conscientious few, who shine like gold, and quickly get promoted, or get a better job offer, so they don't stay long. Then they are replaced by another gum-chomper.

Pay your employees well, and treat them well, and you have a better chance at someone who takes pride in their work and is loyal to the company. Not a guarantee by any means, but a better chance.
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Re: Malta Playmobil Prosecution and Sentencing
« Reply #46 on: September 15, 2011, 00:14:32 »
There IS a quality check for printing? They must sleep a lot on the job...

 :hmm: :hmm: :hmm: :hmm: why so?
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Re: Malta Playmobil Prosecution and Sentencing
« Reply #47 on: September 15, 2011, 00:25:26 »
there's nothing magical about this job, they hate it anyway. 

oh yes there is !!!!! being together together with all pm ,and being part of the production ?? how much do they pay them anyways.. so low?  :hmm: :hmm:   i don't think this is the reason though ,your statements have a base but if someone wants to steal he will steal always the money wants more money !!! so nothing to do with how much he gets
 

anyways what's the concusion??

can you sell customized playmobil ??
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Re: Malta Playmobil Prosecution and Sentencing
« Reply #48 on: September 15, 2011, 00:31:26 »

your statements have a base but if someone wants to steal he will steal always the money wants more money !!! so nothing to do with how much he gets
 

That's quite true, but many of them don't get too far in life, either.


As to can you sell customized playmobil, who knows? Maybe this trial will help us find the answer.
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Re: Malta Playmobil Prosecution and Sentencing
« Reply #49 on: September 15, 2011, 00:33:55 »
I think that PM would like the answer to be NO ... but depending on what country you live in and what freedoms it allows, the answer is probably going to be Yes, of course you can... but Malta might be a place where the answer becomes NO.  Of course this would apply only to customizing and selling it rather than to customizing it for personal use...


BUT I see no way to stop collectors from gifting their customs to one another and coincidentally giving each other monetary gifts.  :lol:
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