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Re: SYSTEM-X DESIGNER WANTED
« Reply #40 on: October 02, 2010, 01:37:22 »
:) i have just asked sylvia if this thread could be joined with richard's "steck designer wanted" - http://www.playmofriends.com/forum/index.php?topic=4514.0 - and with socrates "a new construction system for playmobil" - http://www.playmofriends.com/forum/index.php?topic=4623.0 - in the same section (maybe this one).
 ::) i feel that the ideas and capabilities that came up in all these threads can "help" eachother.
richard's original idea was to "find someone who can revamp Playmobil's SystemX and Steck Systems so that they work together and work better" and this is something that is somehow "lost" - the "steck" thread has been "dead" for almost 2 months and the "new construction" for almost 4 months.  :'(
 ;) maybe we can bring it back to life again.
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Re: SYSTEM-X DESIGNER WANTED
« Reply #41 on: October 03, 2010, 02:02:33 »
Great idea, cachalote to connect all these threats! Wow, what a powerful community! Experts and a lot of creative minds that's what make things big!

meanwhile:   ...just some news about the 3d-database:
some western theme parts are also finished. e.g. the walls of the fort 3023.

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Re: SYSTEM-X DESIGNER WANTED
« Reply #42 on: October 03, 2010, 15:27:12 »

 . . . in one year i have no doubt that all the system-x pieces will be 3d-scanned and a lot of new ones designed.
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This quote reminds me of a question I had when I first looked at SketchUp a year or two ago: would it be possible to scan Playmobil parts as a way of getting the images into SketchUp?

How do Sir Pleamo and Sir George create their SketchUp images?  It looks to me as if they are "drawn" using SketchUp tools as opposed to being 3D scanned.  These gentlemen have tremendous skill in creating these wonderful images (and I can't wait to see what Emma comes up with - she is also very artistic!)  I suspect that it is very time consuming to create images in this way.  As an alternative method, has anyone actually used a 3D scanner to create Playmobil image files?  I know that 3D scanners are difficult to come by (expensive!) but that seems like an easier method in the long run. 
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Re: SYSTEM-X DESIGNER WANTED
« Reply #43 on: October 03, 2010, 18:08:41 »
This quote reminds me of a question I had when I first looked at SketchUp a year or two ago: would it be possible to scan Playmobil parts as a way of getting the images into SketchUp?

No, unfortunaly this would not work.

How do Sir Pleamo and Sir George create their SketchUp images?  It looks to me as if they are "drawn" using SketchUp tools as opposed to being 3D scanned.  These gentlemen have tremendous skill in creating these wonderful images (and I can't wait to see what Emma comes up with - she is also very artistic!)

No, the "drawn-like" character comes from different methods of rendering the 3d-files (e.g. compare the different pics in my posts). In fact all the parts are "handmade"... but, surely, there is no need to reinvent the wheel twice, if you have made some "standards" you can build up on those... that means, the more parts are designed the faster the next ones will be finished! Sir George I wants to finish (nearly) all Steck-parts until christmas, the same I could not promise for Sys-X... these are much to many. But at the moment there are over 100 parts finished (and growing!!!), but...

I suspect that it is very time consuming to create images in this way.

...in this point you are right!

As an alternative method, has anyone actually used a 3D scanner to create Playmobil image files?  I know that 3D scanners are difficult to come by (expensive!) but that seems like an easier method in the long run. 

mmmh, do not give up, really good things need time! I don't think that 3d-scans would make thinks easier, because with "handmade" designs you build up everytime from the same base. Thats realy important when using the files to build something with. It's a question of matching. By the way, yes,right, I have send some files to Emma and Tiermann, so let's wait. But again, when the parts are finished then creativity starts, until that day its just a question of hard work!

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Re: SYSTEM-X DESIGNER WANTED
« Reply #44 on: October 03, 2010, 21:36:16 »
very hard work i should say sir pleamo.  :wow:
i am so glad you joined us.  :)
... and i feel so guilty not to have the time to help.  :-[

will it be possible to 3-d model the "topographic" base pla tes of some sets?  ???
i was thinking of the islands (of course) and i have a feeling that it will be very hard - no constant x, y or z dimensions.  :hmm:

in another thread - http://www.playmofriends.com/forum/index.php?topic=5901.0 - i talked about my frustration with the "incomplete" 7718 ds set.
it would be so nice if - at lest viratually - there was a way to complete its sand beach.
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Re: SYSTEM-X DESIGNER WANTED
« Reply #45 on: October 04, 2010, 01:37:55 »
 :thanks:  Thank you for the very informative reply, Sir Pleamo!  I am glad to hear that the terrifically talented Tim Tiermann is also working on this.   :)

In the meantime I have been taking another look at SketchUp and also doing some more researching of 3D scanning.  I can see now why 3D scanning would not be a good match for SketchUp, if only because the resulting files are so very large and seem to involve complicated things like "meshes."  :(o):

I did come across something very interesting, though, which might be useful to those of us who are new to using SketchUp:
SketchUp for Dummies by Aidan Chopra
This fellow has put together some excellent instructional videos for using SketchUp - I have been viewing the videos from Chapter 8 "Modeling from Photographs" - very helpful and easy to understand. 
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Re: SYSTEM-X DESIGNER WANTED
« Reply #46 on: October 04, 2010, 11:32:42 »
Indianna, this is really cool! The videos are very clear and easy to follow! Im gonna try some of this and if it is as easy as it looks I might join this project!! I would love to contribute!
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Re: SYSTEM-X DESIGNER WANTED
« Reply #47 on: October 04, 2010, 13:16:30 »
Thanks for the videos Indianna. :)
Steck is BACK! <:>

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Re: SYSTEM-X DESIGNER WANTED
« Reply #48 on: October 04, 2010, 20:54:51 »
:) thank you indianna,
 :) maybe i can gather some time to start undestanding sketchup with the help of your videos (i am an mainly an autocad man).
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Re: SYSTEM-X DESIGNER WANTED
« Reply #49 on: October 04, 2010, 22:53:23 »
Me too Cachalote. It's a lot different from Autocad though.
Are you an architect or ingeneer?  :wave:
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