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Offline cachalote

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playmobil vs. lego - growing up
« on: June 25, 2015, 13:20:09 »
in a lot of topics it's easy to see that there are a lot of different ideas on what playmobil should do and don't do.
if you see the way playmobil sets also have very different design "approaches" with a lot of themes, a lot of different "looks" indide each them, a lot of contradictory trends, etc..
the death of horst brandstatter is - must be - an enormous turning point for the company.
they (geobra) will have some problems making a design "path" to travel from now on.

this is also true in a "pre-conceptual" phase, as it is clear to see when people complain about the lack of female figures, the lack of other-not-light-pink-skin figures, the presence of religious sets, licensing or not, etc..
this can be difficult to sort-out but the bottom-line is that new figures must be released.

lego had similar problems but understood this and saw that - contrary to what is common thuoght - people actually like to put their money where their mouths are.
or, in this case, their time and effort.

maybe a lot of you already know this but to me it's obvious geobra mus have an internet site like this:
 :love: https://ideas.lego.com/howitworks  :love:
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Re: playmobil vs. lego - growing up
« Reply #1 on: June 25, 2015, 13:38:49 »
Quote from: cachalote on June 25, 2015, 13:20:09
people actually like to put their money where their mouths are.

That is the problem. What if people actually wanted to give them MORE money!? The HORROR. <GASP>.  ::)
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Re: playmobil vs. lego - growing up
« Reply #2 on: June 25, 2015, 13:45:27 »
That is a great looking and sounding feature they provide their clients.

Geobra wants our ideas also, they just take all the credit, and allow us to buy 2 sets each, if we behave  ;)

I too wonder how geobras newer sets and themes gets influenced with a room full of lawyers and bean counters dictating.
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Re: playmobil vs. lego - growing up
« Reply #3 on: June 25, 2015, 13:57:50 »
And thanks for the link cachalote - I didn't know it - very interesting stuff. Of course, Lego not only LIKES money, they know how to get it!
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Re: playmobil vs. lego - growing up
« Reply #4 on: June 25, 2015, 14:40:38 »
in another thread i share the idea for a duo-pack - http://www.playmofriends.com/forum/index.php?topic=14816.0
no licensing needed: something that i feel playmobil should keep as part of its "core" identity.
just go for the classic books to get inspiration.
it's cheaper.
all you have to do is to know if some of them are going to be a hollywood release.
it's easier than trying to come-up with "stuff" that looks like something from a movie long gone in kids memories - http://www.playmofriends.com/forum/index.php?topic=14795.0
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Re: playmobil vs. lego - growing up
« Reply #5 on: June 25, 2015, 17:14:36 »
mary shelleys' frankenstein was released in 1818.
what about special 200th anniversary duo-pack with dr. victor and his beast?
again, having bigger figures than lego makes playmobil better.
again no licensing (i think).
and being able to sell on book-shops together with all the anniversary editions that will com creates a new selling place (and also a new market) besides toyshops.
grow-up.  :)
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Re: playmobil vs. lego - growing up
« Reply #6 on: June 25, 2015, 17:56:20 »
So I read this morning that , Lego is apparently investing in an "environmentally friendly" brick for the future... translate = biodegradable. Why would you want a biodegradable plastic toy? Do you not intend to keep it? Pass it down/on to another generation? I could understand biodegradable Happy Meal toys, but LEGO sets? This is one thing I hope Playmobil leaves alone... I don't need Playmos that disintegrate in the sunlight.  :lol:
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Re: playmobil vs. lego - growing up
« Reply #7 on: June 25, 2015, 19:14:35 »
That would be an absolute nightmare, yes  :o
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Re: playmobil vs. lego - growing up
« Reply #8 on: June 30, 2015, 18:25:44 »
Couldn't agree more, cachalote. PM should go historical, literary, local, traditional, specific and cultural. No licensing, no ogres, no pseudo-L*go.

This is my dream, which will not be realized.
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Re: playmobil vs. lego - growing up
« Reply #9 on: June 30, 2015, 19:00:29 »
Indeed, no licenses required. That only kills the creativity of children since everything is already defined then. Sure they can make up their own stuff too, but they would not have to hence no creativity is a requirement anymore when using licences.

These days Lego seems to name practicly every character, even the ones not using a license.

To me that remains the beautifull part of playmobil though. Give ten kids an assortment of cowboy playmobil including cowboys, bandits, indians, and a fort with soldiers and they may all play very differently with it.
Sure the bandits will likely be used as bandits due to evil eyebrows, but each kid may pick a different one to be their leader. And they may also pick a different favorite cowboy to be the heroic gunslinger saving the day. And the same clickies would likely be given different names by all of them too.
Some might play the indians as bad guys, others might prefer the indians. Maybe the soldiers are bad, or maybe the soldiers are the heroes who fight bandits.
Either way there's many possibilities.

Thats why its a shame that they limit the medieval theme so much. At least this time they did add dwarves, a troll and a dragon that could belong to either faction, but furthermore it seems to be a clear good and evil faction again. And somehow the bad guys always have the smaller castle.
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