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General => Trains! => Topic started by: Playmo_80 on February 07, 2013, 12:38:02
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I did try to draw a train that I would like to be realized by Geobra. Of course it's just the main lines. I would like to have your opinion (color, shape etc...)...I have to draw the tender, the wagons ....
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Playmo_80
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I think it looks great. My main concern is about the 4 large driver wheels - will they be able to go around the tight corners of the curves made with Playmo or old LGB track?
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what a great design and drawing. I think the traditional black would look good. I know how much playmobil likes to make things have toy type colors so maybe some gold for the clip on parts or silver would look good to accentuate the details
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I think, it's difficult to build, that you can go also with Radius 1.
Till now, there were only locos with smaller wheels.
This year Piko will build the first loco (BR 64) in gauge G with this big axles (58/64 mm diameter, like the St. Mary), but 3 big axles (not 4!) with motor on all 3 [look HERE!] (https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=603207176362011&set=pb.392906490725415.-2207520000.1359584309&type=3&theater).
(The motor of the Steaming Mary is in the tender, not on this big wheels)
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I think, it's difficult to build, that you can go also with Radius 1.
Till now, there were only locos with smaller wheels.
This year Piko will build the first loco (BR 64) in gauge G with this big axles (58/64 mm diameter, like the St. Mary), but 3 big axles (not 4!) with motor on all 3 [look HERE!] (https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=603207176362011&set=pb.392906490725415.-2207520000.1359584309&type=3&theater).
(The motor of the Steaming Mary is in the tender, not on this big wheels)
wow to the 2-6-2 engine, If only I was willing to buy non playmobil that would be on my list for sure. It almost looks playmobil-ish
Didn't the Steaming Mary have the engine in the tender due to playmobil using only one type of LGB motor block. That motor block would not be able to fit in the engine due to the large wheels. Playmobil molds the engine and the tender case but LGB provided the actually motor block. Playmobil should still have all the molds for all the engines.
Also who made playmobils metal wheels ?
Is that right?
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wow to the 2-6-2 engine, If only I was willing to buy non playmobil that would be on my list for sure. It almost looks playmobil-ish
Didn't the Steaming Mary have the engine in the tender due to playmobil using only one type of LGB motor block. That motor block would not be able to fit in the engine due to the large wheels. Playmobil molds the engine and the tender case but LGB provided the actually motor block. Playmobil should still have all the molds for all the engines.
Also who made playmobils metal wheels ?
Is that right?
I don't know, who made the metal wheels and the motor blocks.
The wheels could be of LGB, cause they produce nearly the same small wheels, which are in the 4052-loco (or they have the same producer).
I'm positive, that LGB made the track.
The Piko BR 64 looks a bit playmobilish, cause it's a »prototype« (3D print) without fine pieces on it. The finer pieces will come later...
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Playmo 80, now there is an idea, 3D print your 2-8-0 design. How great would that be to print your own train. Then just add the metal wheels etc......
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I'm certain Playmobil made their own electric motors and LGB only provided the rails.
The loco design is very well done, but I think it needs an extra pair of wheels under the cab so it is a 2-8-2.
However, zugpferdchen has a very good point about how well the loco would cope with the R1 curves Playmobil have always used. To go to a larger radius curve, R2 or R3, would make layouts bigger and more expensive, and both would limit the market for the new loco. An R1 circle has a diameter of just under 4 feet and an R2 circle just over 5 feet. An R3 circle is bigger still.
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thanks for your comments...I think it's possible to realized it for a R1 curve, but the wheel diameter should be 38-40mm (not bigger)
I think, it's difficult to build, that you can go also with Radius 1.
Till now, there were only locos with smaller wheels.
. I did draw a top view of the train on the track (see below).
The train characterized are:
- length:300mm
- 8-wheels diameter: 38mm
- front wheels diameter:15mm
- 8-wheels axis distance: 45mm
- front wheels ditance to first 8-wheels: 69mm
- front wheels axis position: 36mm
As you say Rasputin, I will make a 3D-modell
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Playmo_80
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Do not forget Playmobil plastic track is a tighter radius then LGB R1 Track
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I think you have to make the wheels movable (the 2 middle or the 2 outer ones) to both sides, so that the loco goes on R1 (or R 0,9 plastic).
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You have to make 2 bogies (each with 2 axles) like the LGB 99 7245 (HSB 5-coupler):
(http://www.spassbahn.de/forum/index.php?page=Attachment&attachmentID=21115)
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You have to make 2 bogies (each with 2 axles) like the LGB 99 7245 (HSB 5-coupler):
(http://www.spassbahn.de/forum/index.php?page=Attachment&attachmentID=21115)
My thought, too, but probably expensive.
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If you are skilful, you can build it yourself this way...
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An R1 circle has a diameter of just under 4 feet and an R2 circle just over 5 feet. An R3 circle is bigger still.
LGB R1 is about 51-5/8 inches from edge to edge. The playmobil plastic track is just under 4 feet.
LGB track dimension can be seen here: www.lgb.com/media.php/lgb/LGB_Gleissystem-Info.pdf (http://www.lgb.com/media.php/lgb/LGB_Gleissystem-Info.pdf)
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LGB R1 is about 51-5/8 inches from edge to edge. The playmobil plastic track is just under 4 feet.
LGB track dimension can be seen here: www.lgb.com/media.php/lgb/LGB_Gleissystem-Info.pdf (http://www.lgb.com/media.php/lgb/LGB_Gleissystem-Info.pdf)
You're quite right, Knight Train, a typo on my part. I thought it looked odd when I read it through - I could even picture the tape reading MORE than 4 feet!
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(Measures middle/middle of the track)
Playmobil (plastic)
53 cm
LGB
R1: 60 cm
R2: 78 cm
R3: 119,5 cm
R5: 232 cm
Piko
R1: 60 cm
R3: 92,15 cm
R5: 124,3 cm
R7 (new!): 156,46 cm
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