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Re: History & Fantasy : advantages and disadvantages, other thoughts
« Reply #30 on: February 19, 2009, 03:41:11 »
I think the Security Checkpoint should be packaged in a boxed-set with the Hazmat Team and SWAT Sets for extra modern fun fun fun!   :lol:


I like that Playmobil does these quirky sets, it adds spice.  :yup:
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Re: History & Fantasy : advantages and disadvantages, other thoughts
« Reply #31 on: February 19, 2009, 07:05:05 »
:lol: what i found funny is that this "harmless" set - when viewed by european eyes - gathered so many "critic" and all the other s.w.a.t. sets little more than silence.  :hmm:

Really, by Europeans eyes? I thought the article was from the New York Times ???

Although I must state that I'm also not very pleased being treated like a criminal just after arrested only when travelling around the world ... anyway maybe this is the price nowadays to pay for security and physical inviolability.

So I agree with Gepetto: the differnce is that S.W.A.T. and guns are for facing against "identified" criminals but the checkpoint for "treating" all people ... with the intention to identify criminals. So would this mean that observation cameras -- like used quite several times in some sets -- with the same purpose as the checkpoint are "demonized" in the same way as the checkpoint has been?

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Re: History & Fantasy : advantages and disadvantages, other thoughts
« Reply #32 on: February 19, 2009, 07:39:37 »
Well Gepetto just think that I go through Air Ports and let me tell you the last time we were really checked over, a few times ( not in that weird rubber glove way, i would have walked instead  ;)) but i will confess the guy i was flying with did check in all his hand guns and rifles  :P and we were headed to Sand-point Idaho  :0 on a one way ticket   :omg:

It does make me wonder what other sets get this type of reaction . Did the executioner ? or the harley biker ?

Oh yes, the executioner came in for his share of shocked reactions. Playmobil responded that he represents law & order in the medieval world and he was not withdrawn before his due time.


One comment on security checkpoints in real world airports, they're totally useless anyway. If I were a suicide bomber planning mayhem with a home-made bomb, I wouldn't wait until I got caught at the checkpoint, I'd explode myself while queuing with the thousands of other annoyed travellers. That's cause a lot more disruption and carnage that any post-checkpoint shenanigins.

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Re: History & Fantasy : advantages and disadvantages, other thoughts
« Reply #33 on: February 19, 2009, 12:19:25 »
when i said "european eyes" i meant mine, little jo.  :-[
i don't think that this check-point set is a pedagogical hazard -only a bit dull maybe  :yup:
but i can see where the "bad" reactions come from and i bet geobra is quite amazed by the negative reactions it has gathered.  8}
they will have to get used to it.  :yup:
as martin said, people make of it what they will, and the more playmobil sell the more people will get to know the sets - and this includes all sort of people.
historical sets have a comparative advantage - it's difficult to get madly silly over a knight's smile even if he is fully armoured.  ;)
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Re: History & Fantasy : advantages and disadvantages, other thoughts
« Reply #34 on: February 19, 2009, 12:57:53 »
It seems that some people have nothing better to do than speak about how they don't like something that in their opinion is so "terrible"! My thought is, if you don't want to educate your children about a realistic world, don't buy it, but keep your mouths shut! Has any one got on a soap box regarding the Roman coliseum with gladiators dueling to the death, or being attacked, & eaten by lions, or the chariot races that had swords mounted to the wheels to mow down the fighters who were standing in the way? Or what about the knight, & castle theme? Armored knights conquering each others territory with swords, bows, & arrows, catapults throwing flaming bombs, boiling oil being poured over the castle walls on to attackers, ramming towers to break through a castle wall, or a horse drawn prisoner cart with a poor taxpayer being transported to the dungeon because he coudn't pay. This is considered history not current events, but at its time were extremely more violent than an airport security check point without the rubber glove treatment, so get over it!
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Re: History & Fantasy : advantages and disadvantages, other thoughts
« Reply #35 on: February 19, 2009, 20:05:23 »
i am glad you left out my beloved pirates bill... ;)
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Re: History & Fantasy : advantages and disadvantages, other thoughts
« Reply #36 on: February 20, 2009, 00:56:42 »
i am glad you left out my beloved pirates bill... ;)

I'm sorry, I didn't mean to omit anyone  :arrr:,..... & what about the pirate theme with all of that sword fighting, plundering, shooting powder pistols, & cannons causing blood shed  :yippee:, oh no that's terrible,......how was that, better  ;D?
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Re: History & Fantasy : advantages and disadvantages, other thoughts
« Reply #37 on: February 20, 2009, 06:18:05 »
It seems that some people have nothing better to do than speak about how they don't like something that in their opinion is so "terrible"! My thought is, if you don't want to educate your children about a realistic world, don't buy it, but keep your mouths shut! Has any one got on a soap box regarding the Roman coliseum with gladiators dueling to the death, or being attacked, & eaten by lions, or the chariot races that had swords mounted to the wheels to mow down the fighters who were standing in the way? Or what about the knight, & castle theme? Armored knights conquering each others territory with swords, bows, & arrows, catapults throwing flaming bombs, boiling oil being poured over the castle walls on to attackers, ramming towers to break through a castle wall, or a horse drawn prisoner cart with a poor taxpayer being transported to the dungeon because he coudn't pay. This is considered history not current events, but at its time were extremely more violent than an airport security check point without the rubber glove treatment, so get over it!

Yes, actually that's what I meant.

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Re: History & Fantasy : advantages and disadvantages, other thoughts
« Reply #38 on: February 20, 2009, 10:41:24 »
And what about fantasy?  People who want to protect their children from uncomfortable elements in history or reality ironically don't have any reservations about the very dark and violent streaks in many of our beloved fairy tales and nursery rhymes.

The Bible also has extremely violent sections.

For better or worse, ours is a violent species.

To echo Bill's point, an airport security checkpoint is tame by comparison.
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Re: History & Fantasy : advantages and disadvantages, other thoughts
« Reply #39 on: February 20, 2009, 13:17:45 »
And what about fantasy?  People who want to protect their children from uncomfortable elements in history or reality ironically don't have any reservations about the very dark and violent streaks in many of our beloved fairy tales and nursery rhymes.
The Bible also has extremely violent sections.
For better or worse, ours is a violent species.
To echo Bill's point, an airport security checkpoint is tame by comparison.

Another side I hadn't even thought of, but very true  :-\!
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