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What should be Playmobil's next move design-wise?

Re-design of the clicky with more articulations
0 (0%)
Re-design of the legs of the clickies so they would be independent instead of one piece
1 (2.7%)
More electronic gadgets, apps and technological/internet features
3 (8.1%)
More bennded legs and arms in other themes (other than sports)
2 (5.4%)
Expand the Super 4 Franchise with more episodes, new sets and a movie
2 (5.4%)
Expand to the movies franchise business (like LEGO)
7 (18.9%)
Go back to basis
13 (35.1%)
Other (EXPLAIN WHAT)
9 (24.3%)

Total Members Voted: 23

Voting closed: January 09, 2016, 17:15:42

Author Topic: The future of Playmobil  (Read 20430 times)

Offline Rasputin

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Re: The future of Playmobil
« Reply #30 on: January 04, 2016, 12:53:04 »
I don't understand the fear of assembling buildings. I got the 5305 at age 8. I put it together. Kids can figure things out. For younger children, teach them. Toys are supposed to be educational. Figuring out how to assemble things is a life skill people need.

I do understand as I have no fear, I went beyond it as I have embraced curiosity and the love of "playmobil"  gave me the strength.

Agreed, but it all seems to be part of the lazy way society seems to progress these days. Movies must be fast paced too otherwise many people seem to get bored.  :(
Musicians dont need to be able to sing or write a song, they just need to look appealing, be more of an icon than an actual artist.
Many videogames are simplified, sacrificing depth for this to try and appeal to a mass market while alienating the actual fans of those franchises.

Good thing that kickstarters, youtube and other means help give real talent a platform to share their gifts with the world though. But that does not apply to toys.

Humans are lazy by nature, but then there is an element with in them that must evolve for its own survival as an entity.....or be recycled...

Yep, we live in an age of instant gratification. Heaven forbid you should have to do a little work before you can enjoy playing. My little niece-in-law is like that. She wants me to set all the playmobil up for her so she can play with it. She doesn't have the patience to do it herself. For me setting it up is the fun part. I do think playing with playmobil has increased her patience and dexterity a great deal, though.

The spirit certainly forbids laziness to be rewarded with evolution. Force Her to set it up but do it with her , curiosity, love, ballance = true joy

Patience is a virtue
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Re: The future of Playmobil
« Reply #31 on: January 04, 2016, 12:58:30 »

The spirit certainly forbids laziness to be rewarded with evolution. Force Her to set it up but do it with her , curiosity, love, ballance = true joy

Patience is a virtue

She is improving... She'll set up easier stuff herself, but if there's lots of small stuff like school desks and chairs, she loses patience.
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Re: The future of Playmobil
« Reply #32 on: January 04, 2016, 13:13:54 »
She is improving... She'll set up easier stuff herself, but if there's lots of small stuff like school desks and chairs, she loses patience.

Persistence is a key , there are many keys

Keep up the good work for all of our future, it's worth it, trust me I have seen
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Re: The future of Playmobil
« Reply #33 on: January 09, 2016, 13:20:14 »
Thank you, tonguello, for bringing this topic to the poll; it should be one that captures our imagination! I have read this tread with interest, and would like to thank Birdie in particular for contributing a very important observation:

Playmobil is moving towards ever younger target groups it seems, and so a lot of the newer sets look like Fisher Price toys meant for toddlers. I understand why they do this, from the company's point of view, trying to make money. Kids stop 'playing' with toys a lot sooner nowadays. When I was a kid, my best friend and me enjoyed Playmobil most when we were 10 to 12 years old. The target audience is now 4-year-olds. It shows. For a collector the half-a-buildings, the preschool look and preschool colours, the weird facial expressions, the lack of fine detail and the heavily printed faces and clothes for clickies are a real shame.

This is hitting the nail on the head! Playmobil is an old toy brand, and it is quite remarkable that it has been able to survive for over 40 years when so much is changing all the time: the age of children playing with Playmobil, parental participation (or lack of it), gift volume, life expectancy of toys, etc. I suppose many in the collectors community approach the brand with a different attitude than the contemporary target audience. But we cannot expect that the company will develop new products with collectors' wishes in mind, simply because our purchases are insignificant for the overall turnover (it needs to be said that Geobra is doing a lot for collectors - DS, PCC, etc. Collectors have every reason to be grateful). I wish collectors would be less critical of modernization, and simply support the brand's innovations and adaptations to a changing market. I think the newest products still have a lot to offer for more conservative tastes, especially in bringing original new parts. What should matter most to us all is that the brand will thrive for years to come. Going back to basics is therefore not an option.

Having said this, and returning to the poll, I have picked the following:

1) [two choices that for me mean the same thing]:
Expand the Super 4 Franchise with more episodes, new sets and a movie
Expand to the movies franchise business (like LEGO)

The reason for my choice is that younger children need more guidance in their play than 10-year-olds. Back in the early eighties I was very happy to develop my own scenarios when playing with Playmobil, and I guess that many of you may have similar memories (perhaps not so long back, though! :lol:). But then I was relatively old (ca. 10 years), and in my experience younger children get easily lost without a story to follow. Hence it would be good if attractive storylines can help young players to engage with their toys. It is too early to judge the Super 4 line (and I haven't seen any shows to tell for myself), but I appreciate the initiative. More steps in this direction would be welcome, but I emphasize the need for good storylines: Super 4 is heavily geared towards confrontation and combat (at least the comics that I have read), so a more diverse array of scenarios should be offered (with due attention for equality issues, etc.). I don't mind whether this should be as a movie franchise or in developing their own products (which is how I see Super 4).

2) More electronic gadgets, apps and technological/internet feature
For the same reason as laid out with my first choice: young children need guided play, and a lot of play nowadays involves screens. Playmobil has launched at least one toy in this direction, the Pirate App Cannons (6162-6165), but the game seems to have suffered some flaws (judging from Amazon reviews). I trust the next product will be better designed, and I wish it a lot of success.

Finally, I do like the idea of a re-design of the legs (I always envied Lego for mini-figures that can actually walk!) but don't see how this can be done for Klickies. I guess they should then come with a support? Removable, perhaps, so that they can still sit? Would be great, but my choice has been made.

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Re: The future of Playmobil
« Reply #34 on: January 09, 2016, 17:05:34 »
Gladiators are slaves too but there was no issue taken with that. An ex-slave should be no trouble.
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Re: The future of Playmobil
« Reply #35 on: January 09, 2016, 17:45:22 »
I think Hollywood pushes agendas and I would rather see playmobil stay independent

We are all slaves to this old system in my opinion

I want to see playmobil promote freedom of thought, fredom of imagination, freedom of stereotypes

Stay strong playmobil, it's an uphill battle but worth it for our future generations

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Re: The future of Playmobil
« Reply #36 on: January 09, 2016, 19:42:57 »
I'd like to see legs that can move separately but playmobil is not lego. The feet are not rectangular so would have a hard time balancing on their own in the walk position and don't have the pegs for the feet to be stuck into - which I'm thankful for.
I'd love to have interchangeable legs for my mediaeval klickies so they could different coloured legs, it would also be fun to have one klicky kicking something, but I don't think it's enough added value to warrant a complete redesign. One of the advantages of the current legs is that they are stable because they don't move.

I would like to see some more interactive stuff like being able to create your own faces. Have a blank face and either provide pens to draw faces on or provide a sticker sheet with different eyes, mouths etc to add on. Sticker sheets could also be sold separately. The same for clothes. Those stick on stones for some of the girls sets are a step in that direction. Provide more shiny stuff, shapes that can be stuck on to personalise things, tattoos, glasses.

Produce more odd coloured hair like blue and green, there is a huge otaku market out there for manga/anime related stuff, playmobil could be targeted at it, the idea that the toy has to be for 3-12 year olds is a bit restrictive, particularly given the points made about children moving away from static toys at an earlier age. There is a growing market at the other end for collectable figures, particularly ones that are cute or edgy.


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Re: The future of Playmobil
« Reply #37 on: January 09, 2016, 20:10:01 »
I have 4 kids 6 and under and I have seen every episode of Super 4 multiple times... the show is excellent. It also promotes both guided and creative play in the children. The 6 year old is more interested in the show. The 3.5 year old and the almost 2 year old love the characters and make their own stories together using the characters.

 Playmobil should absolutely expand the line, but not with huge sets... character packs would be sufficient to get kids interested in the toys.

As for the episodes, they could add wild west and Victorian adventures then sets could be made that have appeal both from kids for the interest in the show and older fans out of this desire to get things they could incorporate into their favorite themes.

They need to make the wizard... the witches... and the witch/fairy cottage immediately.
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Re: The future of Playmobil
« Reply #38 on: January 09, 2016, 20:30:55 »
I have 4 kids 6 and under and I have seen every episode of Super 4 multiple times...

How did you manage that? Amazon has 2 dvds with like 4 eps each. HIGHWAY ROBBERY.

I wanted a full set. I wanted to buy the thing. But, agh, money. Yuck. So far had no luck in the usual places either - only saw some eps on youtube...


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Re: The future of Playmobil
« Reply #39 on: January 09, 2016, 22:24:27 »
I assume you are asking how I managed to watch all the episodes, not about the kids :love:
Here in the USA... the whole series is on Netflix.  ;)
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