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Title: Magazines - ready for the database
Post by: sbblabotw on April 05, 2019, 01:34:12
Hi detective team. Let's talk magazines.  I've been digging in to this area of collecting (virtually, thank goodness says my wallet) and found out a bunch of interesting stuff.

With some sleuthing I downloaded pictures for over a hundred of them, straight from the official site - all with their set numbers! Not too many with names, though, just pictures. They're in the 80000 range (along with a pile of other merchandise, which I'm leaving alone for now). I completed the remaining few from amclicks.org, who keep a thread of all the official pictures (http://amclicks.org/foro/novedades-playmobil/playmobil-magazin-girlspink-super-4-y-tu-revista-archivo-y-novedades/), although without set numbers, so until I got the official ones it was hard to match up. The pictures (from both places) are the German printing, since they're from the German site, but I know there's English, French, Spanish/Portuguese, Italian and Greek ones too. (And they all seem to have different release-dates and issue-numbers, which muddies the waters significantly.) I've just named them by the same model, that's used on the site where the names are given, like https://www.playmobil.de/online-shop/lizenzartikel?prefn1=subCategory&srule=Topseller&prefv1=license_books_magazines&content=false (https://www.playmobil.de/online-shop/lizenzartikel?prefn1=subCategory&srule=Topseller&prefv1=license_books_magazines&content=false) .

However, I'm less concerned with the paper magazines than what comes with them! The "30 79" (or "30 74" for non-klicky-containing) part numbers are printed on the card backing, which should in theory make handling them not too hard - the inserts can be parts belonging to the sets, and the klickies, animals, accessories etc. can be subparts of each.

Luckily the official pictures are large enough that I've managed to read quite a few of the "30 79" number printed on the inserts, so I can crop the picture of the insert from the main pic, and add the corresponding part to the set. The different languages have different 30 79 numbers though - makes sense, since the card itself is different. The contents SEEM to be identical. There's no way to get the klicky numbers, and they're purposely unique klickies, so "k80000" etc. they shall be. Many cards are too small or blurry though

http://blue-ocean.de (http://blue-ocean.de) is the official publisher, so I'll use the pictures from there. I'd rather not use unofficial pictures from sellers, though, so I have what I have, for the moment. There are 138 of these things, most in several languages (and they keep making more!) so that'll do for a while! I'll also add Graham's English insert-list for this thread a few years ago: http://www.playmofriends.com/forum/index.php?topic=14703.0  and make sure his list of set-numbers corresponds to what I've got.

THE REQUEST

Who's got magazine inserts they can photograph for me, and/or list 30 79 numbers? anyone want to do klicky-describing, or accessory-parts sleuthing? I can make Google forms to help with this, rather than piling it all into the thread. Tiermann, I bet you'd like a word in here, too, since there are lots of animals and it'd be good to get them put in the right places. Maybe we can get some part-numbers, too, if we can nail down when they were released. Many hands etc.!
Title: Re: Magazines - ready for the database
Post by: sbblabotw on April 05, 2019, 01:59:14
Here are the magazines:
https://playmodb.org/cgi-bin/sets.pl?theme=Add-Ons%2FExtras&sortby=&focus=Magazines&pics=on (https://playmodb.org/cgi-bin/sets.pl?theme=Add-Ons%2FExtras&sortby=&focus=Magazines&pics=on)

and the inserts (along with some random keychains and promos that happened to have 30 79 numbers):
http://playmodb.org/cgi-bin/category.pl?cat=Klicky;subcat=Complete%20ensemble;pics=on;sortby=first_appears_in (http://playmodb.org/cgi-bin/category.pl?cat=Klicky;subcat=Complete%20ensemble;pics=on;sortby=first_appears_in)
Title: Re: Magazines - ready for the database
Post by: tahra on April 05, 2019, 07:51:29
The magazines are different for Portugal and Spain, but the "klicky/whatever gift" is the same (both languages on the card).

Not all klickys are "exclusive"... and I believe it has happened that are different versions in different countries - I'm thinking of a purple Super 4 king, that I THINK was available in France.

The ones here (Portugal, and I assume Spain) are the same as Germany, I believe.
Title: Re: Magazines - ready for the database
Post by: sbblabotw on April 05, 2019, 12:01:42
Good to know, Tahra - thanks. The only ones I have in my possession happen to be Spanish, souvenirs from a vacation. I'll get those added in when I can photograph them.

Distinctiveness: The add-on "three-packs" that they make every year for DS (like 6488 - 3 Egyptian Soldiers (https://playmodb.org/cgi-bin/showinv.pl?setnum=6488)) are the same kind of unique - they use the same subparts as the klickies in the regular theme sets but are changed around a bit, therefore the klickies are new parts. I bet the magazine ones are much the same - I've seen quite a few familiar torsos and legs. However, the more we know about them, the more we can say for sure. My aim here is to keep all this info in one place.... a challenge but I think we can do it.

Curious about the purple king!
Title: Re: Magazines - ready for the database
Post by: tahra on April 05, 2019, 12:27:22
I have (or will have) all the german mags, and then a couple of portuguese ones I got from a friend or when I wanted extra parts..

Problem is.. well... :-[   I HATE taking pics and filling data (which is why I abandoned the worlds in playkingdoms)  :(

Have stuff "to take pics of" for like... ages.
Title: Re: Magazines - ready for the database
Post by: Tiermann on April 05, 2019, 17:32:55
This creates some odd layering. For instance 30 79 1283 and 30 79 7522 both contain the baby T-rex item number 30 65 0103 that is also in 5621. So your assembly numbers are both part numbers and set names, kind of. At Animobil I list the magazine number always for unique animals, but not always for repeats. I can certainly come up with a list of animals that are in magazine blisters though. It may take a bit as I have other projects on at the moment.
Title: Re: Magazines - ready for the database
Post by: sbblabotw on April 05, 2019, 18:05:37
Thanks Tim - no worries, no rush. I'm hoping the subpart mechanism will take care of that... any part can be a subpart, or a super-part, for that matter. I see you have some magazine-contents already noted in the Big Animobil List (http://animobil.info/text/3e258fc-3.html), so I'll use them, and when you get around to updating, you can link straight to the 80xxx set, as you do to other sets. I'll borrow your pics from your older reviews, too, if that's okay!
Title: Re: Magazines - ready for the database
Post by: sbblabotw on April 05, 2019, 18:09:47
I have (or will have) all the german mags, and then a couple of portuguese ones I got from a friend or when I wanted extra parts..

Problem is.. well... :-[   I HATE taking pics and filling data (which is why I abandoned the worlds in playkingdoms)  :(

Have stuff "to take pics of" for like... ages.

That's okay, tahra, if you don't enjoy it, no reason to spend ages on it. I wish I could come rummage in your collection! If you do happen to take any photos, just make them large and clear enough to see the number, and I'll take care of the rest. I may ask you specific questions if I run into a serious puzzle.

Title: Re: Magazines - ready for the database
Post by: tahra on April 05, 2019, 18:34:16
That's okay, tahra, if you don't enjoy it, no reason to spend ages on it. I wish I could come rummage in your collection! If you do happen to take any photos, just make them large and clear enough to see the number, and I'll take care of the rest. I may ask you specific questions if I run into a serious puzzle.

Maybe I should just forward you the gazillion box pics I've been taking before flattening them  :'(

I meant them for pk, but.. well.. unless I manage to HIRE someone to enter the data and fix those pics, never gonna happen.
Title: Re: Magazines - ready for the database
Post by: sbblabotw on April 05, 2019, 19:03:08
Maybe I should just forward you the gazillion box pics I've been taking before flattening them  :'(

I meant them for pk, but.. well.. unless I manage to HIRE someone to enter the data and fix those pics, never gonna happen.

Jeez, if they're already digital, just throw them over here- I'll use what I can use! Message me with a dropbox or equivalent. Anything really nifty I'll post.
Title: Re: Magazines - ready for the database
Post by: GrahamB on April 06, 2019, 08:35:00
I wish I could come rummage in your collection!

Me too!
Title: Re: Magazines - ready for the database
Post by: Hadoque on April 06, 2019, 22:09:57
and the inserts (along with some random keychains and promos that happened to have 30 79 numbers):

I didnīt notice before those numbers on the cardboard backs from the blisters that come with the magazines  :-[

Are those 3079xxxx numbers for the blisters WITH the klickies in them?
If yes, that means you can order them from DS (if still available) and you donīt have to buy all those magazines to get the klickies?!

I meanwhile checked the magazine-blisters I have and sometimes those numbers are barely visible / readable,  but also sometimes just good enough tho get the complete number.
Unfortunately, I have a lack of time to take pics (past m onths I havenīt even found time to photograph what I do / create with playmo). But If you would be unsure about a specific number, especially with regard to those with pirates figures, you can ask me to verify, I have (almost) every one of them.

I also had a look at the blisters I have from the DeAgostini Collection, and those also have such 3079xxx numbers on the cardboard backs.


Title: Re: Magazines - ready for the database
Post by: GrahamB on April 07, 2019, 08:53:00
I'm not surprised the DeAgostini parts have 3079nnnn numbers. I bet the Quick figures did too. Heather's suggestion that the figures in these gifts/giveaways/part works and the DS triple figure sets are recombinations of existing parts seems a good one. A good way of creating new figures without having to create new moulds or printings.

I wonder if we can get 3079nnnn parts from DS. If you want me to try through the UK DS let me know.
Title: Re: Magazines - ready for the database
Post by: Tiermann on May 19, 2019, 18:10:57
Going through magazine animals today, here is page one

for 80529 you can add the two rabbits
item numbers 30 64 6483 and 30 64 6493

for 80516 you can add 30 27 7470

for 80520 you can add 30 65 0103

for 80526 shield is 30 62 2433

for 80535 swan is body 30 27 4100 wings 30 27 4090 feet 30 27 4110

for 80536 dragon is body 30 67 4632 wings 30 51 4032

for 80540 kitten is 30 63 0534
Title: Re: Magazines - ready for the database
Post by: sbblabotw on May 20, 2019, 00:39:28
Thanks Tim - all done!

Magazines updated 2019-05-19 (http://playmodb.org/cgi-bin/your_set_list.pl?setlist=80516,80520,80526,80529,80535,80536,80540;title=Magazines%20updated%202019-05-19)

You haven't scouted out a number for p80529a - Unicorn, young, with small horn (https://playmodb.org/cgi-bin/showpart.pl?partnum=p80529a) in 80529, have you?
Title: Re: Magazines - ready for the database
Post by: Tiermann on May 20, 2019, 18:17:53
Nope, and there isn't anything comparable unaccounted for in your DB so not likely at this point unless they reuse it some time.
Title: Re: Magazines - ready for the database
Post by: Tiermann on May 23, 2019, 20:37:29
for 80557
contains lion 30 66 0633 and cow skeleton 30 05 1960

for 80566
contains teddy bear 30 20 8450 and suitcase 30 03 3550

for 80572 you have 30 04 2262 which is wrong, not in that set
It does have suitcase 30 03 3550 though and tube 30 20 0662
still no known part number for that pony foal, it is different from the other similar one with a part number

for 80578
also contains seahorse 30 29 7110

for 80603
contains 30 63 2053

for 80607
also contains 30 21 7213

for 80612
teddy bear 30 23 0142 and suitcase 30 03 3550

for 80622
colt 30 67 1553

for 80625
the rabbit listed is wrong, it is a new one  large type 2 brown with brown eyes. I have one but need to get a photo yet.
so remove 30 46 7760
and add p80625a
I will let you know when I have it updated.

Thanks :)
Title: Re: Magazines - ready for the database
Post by: sbblabotw on May 24, 2019, 13:23:40
Thanks Tim, all changes made. This is pretty efficient once I have the pairs of numbers, setnumber and partnumber.

Rabbit: the unpainted version of 30 62 6093 - Rabbit, large, sitting up (https://playmodb.org/cgi-bin/showpart.pl?partnum=30-62-6093) I suppose. I'll drop in an quick crop from the set-picture for now.

Spectators, as you can see, this is a massive, time-consuming job! There are 139 of these magazines and they keep putting out more! Would anyone like to go through them - some of them, even? - and make a list of... hats, maybe? tools/weapons? ladies' dresses? A list of body parts - e.g. hair, or arm / leg colour - would be great too.
Title: Re: Magazines - ready for the database
Post by: Tiermann on May 24, 2019, 15:04:18
Thank you for the hard work on this Heather. It has really helped resolve a long term problem for me in listing animals that show up only in magazines. Having a set number to link to has really cleaned things up.
Title: Re: Magazines - ready for the database
Post by: tigana123 on June 15, 2019, 23:55:26
Regarding the klickys from magazines, as it may have already been pointed out, it seems that for the same klicky there is a different 3079xxxx number depending on the country!
Title: Re: Magazines - ready for the database
Post by: GrahamB on June 16, 2019, 09:05:04
The 3079xxxx number refers to the complete item, toy, blister cover and backing card. Since different cards are used for different countries/languages, there is a different part number for each.
Title: Re: Magazines - ready for the database
Post by: sbblabotw on June 16, 2019, 12:25:31
The 3079xxxx number refers to the complete item, toy, blister cover and backing card. Since different cards are used for different countries/languages, there is a different part number for each.

That's why I've made "k" numbers for the actual klickies, and made them "subparts" of each of the 3079xxxx parts. If anyone spots a "k" figure in a magazine that's identical to an previously existing figure (hair and non-removable accessories included), please let me know and I'll merge them. 30 00 2273 - Vampire (https://playmodb.org/cgi-bin/showpart.pl?partnum=30-00-2273) is an example. The recent Ghostbuster Stantz (https://playmodb.org/cgi-bin/showpart.pl?partnum=k9221) is another - I still don't have a number for him, but he's the same as the figure in 9221, so I used the same number.