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Creative => How-To => Topic started by: flatcat on November 06, 2011, 20:42:38
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Does anyone know what bar the fire hose pumps/systems are rated at?
Thanks
Damo :)
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You mean the Playmobil ones? Very low I'd say. In fact I prefer the original system which came out with the 3880 - http://playmodb.org/cgi-bin/showpart.pl?partnum=30-66-5640 -even though you don't get a continuous jet of water. If using the new system, I find it works better using two tanks together as with the first version of it and with the various connectors glued in. Even then, the seal on the pressurised tank doesn't always work properly.
FireChief did some experiments and had some success with hoses connected to the mains water.
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Sorry, yes the Playmobil ones
Well following on from my fire hose experiments that me and Jack did, I was thinking of connecting the Playmobil system to my 100bar supply, but I am guessing the hoses/tanks might not take that kind of pressure?
Damo :)
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Sorry, yes the Playmobil ones
Well following on from my fire hose experiments that me and Jack did, I was thinking of connecting the Playmobil system to my 100bar supply, but I am guessing the hoses/tanks might not take that kind of pressure?
Damo :)
I think the connections wouldn't, unless you glued them in, and even then they might blow off.
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The oil tanker/custom water tanker lorry would probably explode! :lol:
It was just a thought as I could then have a constant supply, but I know there are more suitable things but I was just thinking of what I have in the shed.
Damo :)
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I did a continuous water supply using a modified rectangle plastic trash can with a back board & submerged a pond pump for a toy store window display in 2000. I was able to reduce the pressure down by friction loss & reducers. I also used Teflon thread tape to make the connections more secure. And as Gordon as already said the old hose connections were better.
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That sounds good, Bill
I have a large twin cylinder continual run air compressor, which I thought I could perhaps contect to the end of the hose and see how fast I could ake the water come out, but it would use up the water in seconds, not taking into account that the hoses/connectors/tanker truck would be blown to smitherines! :lol:
I have a petrol water pump! Now that would be fun!
Damo :)
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That sounds good, Bill
I have a large twin cylinder continual run air compressor, which I thought I could perhaps contect to the end of the hose and see how fast I could ake the water come out, but it would use up the water in seconds, not taking into account that the hoses/connectors/tanker truck would be blown to smitherines! :lol:
Damo :)
I'll check in my Playmoshed tonight & try to find the pump & show you how I reduced it down to prevent blow out. The only thing I don't have to show you is the modified trash can/backing board that I had my ladder platform trucks set up to shoot water at with the submerged pump that kept recycling the water. The toy store would check the reservoir s water level every morning before turning the pump on to run continuously all day to draw in customers.
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This all sound very cool 8-) look forward to see pics.
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For those who hadn't seen this, this is what I am following on from:
http://www.playmofriends.com/forum/index.php?topic=4346.0 (http://www.playmofriends.com/forum/index.php?topic=4346.0)
Damo :)
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This could end up in interesting pictures in nearby future.
:wave:
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These are the pictures of the submersible pond pump, reducer, & hose connections.
(http://img717.imageshack.us/img717/9765/pict0001jo.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/717/pict0001jo.jpg/)
An overview picture of the system out of water.
(http://img824.imageshack.us/img824/2812/pict0003ow.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/824/pict0003ow.jpg/)
Brass reducer shown with supply hose connected.
(http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/4797/pict0005od.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/13/pict0005od.jpg/)
Close up of pump tag.
(http://img847.imageshack.us/img847/254/pict0006kg.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/847/pict0006kg.jpg/)
Pump is shown to be 2 Klicky's in height.
(http://img580.imageshack.us/img580/8526/pict0007ht.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/580/pict0007ht.jpg/)
My avatar showing total height.
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That must have been so cool, BB!
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That must have been so cool, BB!
I wish I hadn't lost the pictures of the system actually working in the store window when my super old computer crashed loosing all of my photo files on the disc. I was really proud of how it worked & looked. Back then it was cutting edge. It's great to see the young whipper snappers like Damo taking interest in issues like I did years ago.
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That looks just the job, Bill! 8-)
It looks a good size, and has a good outlet size as well :yup:
Damo :)
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That looks just the job, Bill! 8-)
It looks a good size, and has a good outlet size as well :yup:
Damo :)
If I get time & weather permits this weekend, I may try to show it actually working. When I designed my new building that was shown in the PCFD on scene of a large building fire photo story, it was to be able to use this pump & fogger machine together. As long as this pump has a water supply, it will pump continuously until it runs out of water, or it is unplugged from the electric source.
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Ooooh, that would be awesome! I hope it works out to do it! If there's ever an exhibition somewhere, your building with working pump and fog machine would make an excellent diorama. ;D
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The following is the enlarged photos showing the submerged pond pump & water supply system in use for continual water usage as talked about earlier. The weather report said it is supposed to turn to the not so good for the weekend, so I went ahead & rushed this into service. It took 10 minutes to set up by the way.
(http://img33.imageshack.us/img33/1148/pict0001ck.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/33/pict0001ck.jpg/)
A picture showing the 5 gallon bucket, submerged pump, water supply garden hose, & supply lines going to PCFD apparatus.
(http://img833.imageshack.us/img833/746/pict0003gn.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/833/pict0003gn.jpg/)
Splitter & supply lines.
(http://img714.imageshack.us/img714/1600/pict0004dz.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/714/pict0004dz.jpg/)
PCFD Ladder Towers TL114 & TL124 hooked up to the water supply lines.
(http://img641.imageshack.us/img641/4707/pict0005am.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/641/pict0005am.jpg/)
A picture showing TL114's platform monitor water stream.
(http://img855.imageshack.us/img855/3035/pict0006zx.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/855/pict0006zx.jpg/)
PCFD TL124's monitor water stream. These are a distance of 3.5 feet in length.
(http://img59.imageshack.us/img59/9540/pict0013sn.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/59/pict0013sn.jpg/)
A picture of TL114's monitor elevated to shoot to a distance of 6.5 feet in distance.
(http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/8395/pict0020m.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/508/pict0020m.jpg/)
A picture of the height & 6.5 foot distance with the Playmoshed in the background.
(http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/9804/pict0021cs.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/3/pict0021cs.jpg/)
A close of picture of the powerful stream in use.
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Very cool, BB! That gives a really good stream of water, looks quite realistic. I can see how great that would be set up with the building and fog machine and all. :love:
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WOW That looks very impressive, Bill! :o :o :o
How quickly can it empty the bowl do you reckon? (without the garden hose going)
Btw, what is the black hosey thing in the basket in pic 5?
Thank you for taking the time to set it up and show us :) :) :)
Damo :)
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Wow, those are pretty great distances. Nicely realistic looking too.
Aquarium pumps can be used for this as well. Many have sliding controls on how much water gets pumped out - working a bit like a reducer.
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This was my pride & joy. All Playmobil components of the display shown are bone stock without modifications. BTW, there were no leaks in the Playmobil water supply system during the use of the set up :)9. With only one Tower Ladder in service I was able to get it to shoot over 8 feet.
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Btw, what is the black hosey thing in the basket in pic 5?
That's the custom air supply hoses, right? So they don't have to carry oxygen tanks on their backs when in the ladder basket?
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WOW That looks very impressive, Bill! :o :o :o
How quickly can it empty the bowl do you reckon? (without the garden hose going)
Btw, what is the black hosey thing in the basket in pic 5?
Thank you for taking the time to set it up and show us :) :) :)
Damo :)
It went approx. 20 minutes while taking pictures without having the garden hose on before it lowered to the top of the pump. That was with both TL's working at the same time.
The black hoses in the platform basket are the newly designed onboard breathing air supply system shown here.
http://www.playmofriends.com/forum/index.php?topic=9525.0
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I experimented with automotive vaccum tee's in the water system & at one time got the same TL's to shoot well over 10 to 12 feet. :lol:
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In my playmobil prime I had a garden hose connected to brass piping and custom hydrants... As long as the psi remained low it worked great. Maybe Gordon remembers this.
- Ben
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In my playmobil prime I had a garden hose connected to brass piping and custom hydrants... As long as the psi remained low it worked great. Maybe Gordon remembers this.
- Ben
I do, Ben. That's the one I had in mind in my post, but I couldn't find the thread on it.
And a warm welcome back! :wave:
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Yes, great to see you, Ben! You don't know me, I guess, but I've seen your awesome work!