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Title: More men for the Royal Navy
Post by: Hadoque on October 24, 2011, 17:09:09
Hello  ;D

With the new parts (kneetrousers, wigs, etc.) available from the updated pirates theme, I'm further re-working my English (if you situated them before 1707) or British Navy officers and seamen...

I've already shown a captain and some ensigns, but meanwhile the captain got clones and there are now other officers as well.  ;)

Btw:
I've checked about "ensign" (the rank, not the flag) and it turns out the Royal Navy did not use this ranktitle, though the navies of the US and New Zealand did/do.
The according rank in the RN should be sub-lieutenant or 2nd lieutenant, a rank just above midshipman (lowest officer rank).

The klickies I called "ensigns" in my earlier thread have now become "midshipmen", while I'm now using torsos from the lower-rank officer from the 3740/3055 white shooner as "2nd lieutenants" (= ensigns in US Navy).

Enough talk, here are the pics  ;D

First ones:

* A "commodore" or "Fleet Admiral" (= an admiral in charge of a fleet of ships, but not as high-ranked as a Rear-Admiral or Admiral of the Fleet)
* Captains
Title: Re: More men for the Royal Navy
Post by: Hadoque on October 24, 2011, 17:11:46
Lower rank officers:

* 1 lieutenant
* 3 2nd-lieutenants
* 4 midshipmen
Title: Re: More men for the Royal Navy
Post by: Hadoque on October 24, 2011, 17:16:21
And to conclude for this time, some "more common" sailors;
2 cannoneers
Title: Re: More men for the Royal Navy
Post by: conniefrere on October 24, 2011, 17:26:46
I like this royal navy!  :love: Especially the commodore, he looks like a real gentleman.
Are these the ones who belong on the "Golden Hind"?
Title: Re: More men for the Royal Navy
Post by: Hadoque on October 24, 2011, 17:34:43
Thanks  :)

Are these the ones who belong on the "Golden Hind"?

No, the "Golden Hind" is the ship of Sir Francis Drake, who was in the 16th century (ca. 1580, during England's "Golden Age") in service of Queen Eilisabeth, and who raided the Spanish (gold)fleets.
These guys belong to the 18th-century ships "HMS Surprise", "HMS Renown", "HMS Revenge, "HMS Defiant", ...  ;D
Title: Re: More men for the Royal Navy
Post by: Wolf Knight on October 24, 2011, 17:39:01
Excellent officers Hadoque!!! Really fit and ready for duty!!
Title: Re: More men for the Royal Navy
Post by: Hadoque on October 24, 2011, 17:41:27
Just thought about the following:
The lieutenant's uniform is closer to that of the lowest-rank midshipman I used, then to the one of the 2nd lieutenant.
So maybe I should give the 2nd-lieutenants the hats of the (1st) lieutenants, and change the (1st) lieutenants (only 1 shown in the pic) into 2nd lieutentants with a non-feathered tricorne.... Opinions welcome!  :)
Title: Re: More men for the Royal Navy
Post by: Wolf Knight on October 24, 2011, 17:46:33
If you do that, make sure you also change the neck piece of the first lieutenant to something a little less formal.  ;)
Title: Re: More men for the Royal Navy
Post by: BlackPearl2006 on October 24, 2011, 17:53:48
Hello  ;D

With the new parts (kneetrousers, wigs, etc.) available from the updated pirates theme, I'm further re-working my English (if you situated them before 1707) or British Navy officers and seamen...

I've already shown a captain and some ensigns, but meanwhile the captain got clones and there are now other officers as well.  ;)

Btw:
I've checked about "ensign" (the rank, not the flag) and it turns out the Royal Navy did not use this ranktitle, though the navies of the US and New Zealand did/do.
The according rank in the RN should be sub-lieutenant or 2nd lieutenant, a rank just above midshipman (lowest officer rank).

The klickies I called "ensigns" in my earlier thread have now become "midshipmen", while I'm now using torsos from the lower-rank officer from the 3740/3055 white shooner as "2nd lieutenants" (= ensigns in US Navy).

Enough talk, here are the pics  ;D

First ones:

* A "commodore" or "Fleet Admiral" (= an admiral in charge of a fleet of ships, but not as high-ranked as a Rear-Admiral or Admiral of the Fleet)
* Captains

very awesome !!!! i love them all! 

to clarify, these represent navymen situated before 1707?  (my limited knowledge only covers mid to later 18th cent and part of early 19th.)
Title: Re: More men for the Royal Navy
Post by: Bill Blackhurst on October 24, 2011, 18:03:14
Truly not my expertise, but I really like these custom figures, Hadoque :wow:!
Title: Re: More men for the Royal Navy
Post by: CountBogro on October 24, 2011, 18:06:38
I love these customs, Hadoque.

... Opinions welcome!  :) ...

This era and naval history are not my expertese. I was wondering though - have you checked the books from Osprey on this subject?

Bogro
Title: Re: More men for the Royal Navy
Post by: Hadoque on October 24, 2011, 18:21:12
If you do that, make sure you also change the neck piece of the first lieutenant to something a little less formal.  ;)

Yes, If I do I'll use this neckscarf:

http://playmodb.org/cgi-bin/showpart.pl?partnum=30-05-5770

 ;)
Title: Re: More men for the Royal Navy
Post by: conniefrere on October 24, 2011, 18:21:26
Thanks  :)

No, the "Golden Hind" is the ship of Sir Francis Drake, who was in the 16th century (ca. 1580, during England's "Golden Age") in service of Queen Eilisabeth, and who raided the Spanish (gold)fleets.
These guys belong to the 18th-century ships "HMS Surprise", "HMS Renown", "HMS Revenge, "HMS Defiant", ...  ;D

I realize now, these ships were real ships. ;) Gonna check your thread about the HMS then.

I love these customs, Hadoque.

This era and naval history are not my expertese. I was wondering though - have you checked the books from Osprey on this subject?

Bogro

Just checked that publisher, very cool, gonna buy some of these books for realistic "historically accurate" customs! Thanks
Title: Re: More men for the Royal Navy
Post by: Hadoque on October 24, 2011, 18:26:08
to clarify, these represent navymen situated before 1707?  (my limited knowledge only covers mid to later 18th cent and part of early 19th.)

No, these are rather for the 2nd half of the 18th century, but I might use some of them for settings of the period 1700-1750 (as the big era of pirates ended  in the 1st half of the 18th century. The classic pirates that is, not the modern Somalia-ones...  ;D )
Title: Re: More men for the Royal Navy
Post by: playmofire on October 24, 2011, 18:27:36
Excedllent curtoms, Erwin, and even if they are not exactly correct historically (and I'm not saying they are inaccurate), they look right (although I'm not sure about the moustaches - the rule in the Royal Navy is clean shaven or a full beard and moustache, but when this came in I don't know).
Title: Re: More men for the Royal Navy
Post by: Hadoque on October 24, 2011, 18:32:27
I love these customs, Hadoque.

have you checked the books from Osprey on this subject?

Bogro

No, I didn't, but maybe I should.
I just use my memory... (because I've seen many movies and series about the era, not because I remember a previous life back then  ;D )
Title: Re: More men for the Royal Navy
Post by: CountBogro on October 24, 2011, 19:02:39
... No, I didn't, but maybe I should. ...

I am the last one who says you should; but you might  ;) I must admit that I find them fascinating reading too  ;)

Cheerio,

Bogro
Title: Re: More men for the Royal Navy
Post by: WarriorOfToys on October 26, 2011, 20:31:49
Excellent! :)9
They are ready to board and set sail! :wow:
Title: Re: More men for the Royal Navy
Post by: gaspodfreud on November 06, 2011, 23:21:21
Erwin , i like your taste !! exellent figures !
Title: Re: More men for the Royal Navy
Post by: PlaymoMan on November 06, 2011, 23:24:05
Great customs, Erwin! :wave:
Title: Re: More men for the Royal Navy
Post by: Celeste in New Orleans on November 08, 2011, 01:02:46
These are awesome! I really love that "wig" they are wearing.
Title: Re: More men for the Royal Navy
Post by: cardensb on November 22, 2011, 04:51:19
Do you have a list of parts for each type?  This is the theme I was looking to start customizing for Royal Navy and American set of ship displays.
Title: Re: More men for the Royal Navy
Post by: WarriorOfToys on November 22, 2011, 04:55:38
I just realized that I missed a question in my post...
How did you make the fuse for the cannon?
I know the stick you used, but what did you use for the actual fuse? ???
Title: Re: More men for the Royal Navy
Post by: Bolingbroke on November 23, 2011, 11:15:06
Great stuff!
Title: Re: More men for the Royal Navy
Post by: Lynx on November 23, 2011, 13:19:01
They're excellent, Hadoque! Wasn't  "Commodore" the rank Bianca Castafiore sometimes used for Captain Haddock from Tintin?
I don't know how the Flamish use the names for the ranks, in the Netherlands is "Commodore" only used by the Air Force, the other names for the one- star- generals are "Brigade Generaal" for the Army and "Schout- bij- Nacht" for the Navy. Probably it's the same in Belgium.

Didn't know the British had blue uniforms in that time, somehow I presumed all their uniforms were red. Learning all the time on this forum, thanks!!!

Lynx
Title: Re: More men for the Royal Navy
Post by: Hadoque on November 24, 2011, 04:56:24
I just realized that I missed a question in my post...
what did you use for the actual fuse? ???

A strap normally used to hold a camera, or binoculars and such, ...  like this one:

http://playmodb.org/cgi-bin/showpart.pl?partnum=30-07-3840
Title: Re: More men for the Royal Navy
Post by: Hadoque on November 24, 2011, 05:03:01
They're excellent, Hadoque! Wasn't  "Commodore" the rank Bianca Castafiore sometimes used for Captain Haddock from Tintin?

Yep  ;)

When not mistaking, a "commodore" is a flexible rank, given to the officer in command of a fleet of ships (not the whole navy) at a specific time.
In the former Belgian Air Force (it is now called "Air Component") I think the highest rank is general (with *** ).

Didn't know the British had blue uniforms in that time, somehow I presumed all their uniforms were red. Learning all the time on this forum, thanks!!!

Yes, in those days the English/British army used to wear red uniforms (with white trousers), and the Royal Navy's uniforms had blue coats.
Title: Re: More men for the Royal Navy
Post by: WarriorOfToys on November 25, 2011, 15:53:02
A strap normally used to hold a camera, or binoculars and such, ...  like this one:

http://playmodb.org/cgi-bin/showpart.pl?partnum=30-07-3840

:wow: :wow: :wow:
Title: Re: More men for the Royal Navy
Post by: Justindo on January 29, 2012, 19:30:12
Nice customs, Hadoque!  I really like what you've done, although I'd personally switch the uniforms of the midshipmen and the 2nd lieutenants.
Title: Re: More men for the Royal Navy
Post by: Hadoque on January 30, 2012, 00:02:11
Nice customs, Hadoque!  I really like what you've done, although I'd personally switch the uniforms of the midshipmen and the 2nd lieutenants.

Yes, something's not completely right with the uniforms/ranks. I've considered you're suggestion, but I want to keep the midshipmen with the unifoms used, because they're jackets look rather lowest-rank. But I think I'll give the 2nd lieutenants a 1-rank promotion, and the 1st lieutenants a 1-rank degradation  ;)
Title: Re: More men for the Royal Navy
Post by: Justindo on February 05, 2012, 18:49:04
Yes, something's not completely right with the uniforms/ranks. I've considered you're suggestion, but I want to keep the midshipmen with the unifoms used, because they're jackets look rather lowest-rank. But I think I'll give the 2nd lieutenants a 1-rank promotion, and the 1st lieutenants a 1-rank degradation  ;)

That would work too, as long as you removed the feather from the current 1st lieutenant's tricorne and perhaps changed his neckware to something less formal. :captain: