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Creative => Customs Gallery => Topic started by: cheng on October 03, 2011, 08:51:30
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I've been looking up but do you think those shields and axes are historically acceptable, at all? ???
any suggestion for a suitable pair of legs (lines/checkered) with old type shoes/bare light-skin coloured feet so that playmo dad can join them? (I cant find one amongst my napoleonic sailors)
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Maybe these pants could work, but you'll need to cut off the feet and add a less royal coloured ones...
k4587 - Fairytale King (http://playmodb.org/cgi-bin/showpart.pl?partnum=k4587)
or perhaps these? 30 00 9670 - Viking, redhead, grey fur vest (http://playmodb.org/cgi-bin/showpart.pl?partnum=30-00-9670)
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agreed WK!
both looks very suitable except i hope to avoid gluing on bare feet...maybe I'll just spray the second set of shoes brown instead of blue(are blue shoes ok?)!!
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agreed WK!
both looks very suitable except i hope to avoid gluing on bare feet...maybe I'll just spray the second set of shoes brown instead of blue(are blue shoes ok?)!!
I am no expert, but I doubt they were..
Glad I could help
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if there is a whole hoard of these guys charging at your troops... i doubt anyone would take time to notice what color their shoes were.... :)
I need to get back to work on my barbarian/celt/gaulish type persons soon.... so many unfinished projects... :( :lol:
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if there is a whole hoard of these guys charging at your troops... i doubt anyone would take time to notice what color their shoes were.... :)
I need to get back to work on my barbarian/celt/gaulish type persons soon.... so many unfinished projects... :( :lol:
Baron Marshall, I would be most interested to see what you come up with cause for me these groups are a headache... so many overlaps and use of the same parts over and over again 8}
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The axes are not historically correct.
They would have had axes more like the ones from the fire fighter sets...
http://playmodb.org/cgi-bin/showpart.pl?partnum=30%2026%206630
Or you could cut the top of the axe down!
I did that to one of mine...
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@Baron Marshall : please do share.....I'm itching to make more of these...before I spray more brown shoes ;D
@Wolf Knight : and I'm adding to the confusion with my still unclear mind...will just refer to mine as Celts/Gauls/Vikings :P
@WoT : thanks!! I will substitute these axes with more crude/ancient ones ;) .....I'm been hesitant to put one of those horned helmets on one of them (I'm trying my best to move away from our old-familiar PM vikings) too bad we dont have other oval shields (apart from those with African motifs) :)
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I do wish we had oval shields with Celtic designs. :)
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Looking at cheng's second picture, why not customise the Masai warrior's shield? The shape is quite similar, isn't it?
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I do wish we had oval shields with Celtic designs. :)
would you all believe my first reaction when I read WoT's wish, I immediately thought of cowabounga....and thinking of replying WoT; "why dont you try persuading cowabounga into making Celtic Shield stickers ;D ;D ;D ;D
...and you, Arnaud replied by chance?! or ESP? ;)
or WoT, you can paint freehand better than the Celts could for sure!
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That's probably ESP. The Force is strong in my family. ;D
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That's probably ESP. The Force is strong in my family. ;D
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:lol:
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or WoT, you can paint freehand better than the Celts could for sure!
I am not that good at painting Cheng! :o
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Or you could cut the top of the axe down!
I did that to one of mine...
Found it! :D
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...maybe I'll just spray the second set of shoes brown instead of blue(are blue shoes ok?)!!
Cheng: I've sometimes used gold shoes on my Vikings. I then put a gold helmet on them to make them into Viking "kings" or leaders of some sort. Completely ahistorical, of course, but fun for my kids....
-- Kenny
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Great customs.
I don't know - PM makes me wonder sometimes. Every new knight they release nowadays, they seem to use that horrible fantasy shield (vide the new super specials) ... and yet they never used the Egyptian shield, which has been used to amazing effect by the likes of Arnaud for quite a while now. The same goes for the Masai shield. ::) ::) ::) I agree it would make a very good celtic shield.
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Great customs.
I don't know - PM makes me wonder sometimes. Every new knight they release nowadays, they seem to use that horrible fantasy shield (vide the new super specials) ... and yet they never used the Egyptian shield, which has been used to amazing effect by the likes of Arnaud for quite a while now. The same goes for the Masai shield. ::) ::) ::) I agree it would make a very good celtic shield.
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thanks WoT!
they way you cut those axes give them a kind of 'cruel' character..i dont know how to desbribe it but they do look more frightening which should look good with a bunch of smiling horde :lol:
...do you have any drawings/photos to show me how they really look? (i dont doubt your customs...I just want to see the 'real' stuff ;) )
Cheng: I've sometimes used gold shoes on my Vikings. I then put a gold helmet on them to make them into Viking "kings" or leaders of some sort. Completely ahistorical, of course, but fun for my kids....-- Kenny
and Kenny, no worries...as long as they look good in your eyes, thats all that matters...I'll show you my latest Celt...I didnt respray his blue shoes :P
@Bolingbroke:
I've accepted the fact that PM designers dont have us in mind at all....they just make what they think kids or their shopping parents want...any Judokas or Japanese Geisha they launch is just coincidental....and those Fi?ures they launched are not because they finally relented and gave in to us customisers...but because LEGO and a few more companies have been doing this (kitty kat etc) and getting extra shelf spaces at counters and aisle hooks...even in shops that does not sell toys! (sorry for digressing...but I dont want to start a new ranting thread to spoil my day hehe!!)
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Sure, a quick search on Google can show you what axes would have been used in period. :wave:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a6/Dane_Axe.JPG/200px-Dane_Axe.JPG
http://images.history-revisited.com/l/alias3/V138-10th-century-viking-or-norman-ceremonial-battle-axe.jpg%0D
http://www.aceros-de-hispania.com/image/battle-ready-sword/1904-viking-axe.JPG
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thanks WoT!
I like this one and "have an axe to grind" tonight :lol:
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:lol: ;D
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thanks again WoT!
(decided not to spray the handle brown and also couldnt bring myself to trim off the spike on the other side.....this will be my only modified axe...one is enough...and will use those simpler fiiremen axes for the others ;)
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That axe looks excellent cheng!!! :)9
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Yeah, really nice work!
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:love: :love: love it, just like the Gaul.
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LOVE IT! :wow:
That is amazing Cheng, much cooler looking them my axes.
(And I wouldn't have shaved off the spike either... ;) )
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thanks everyone!
and WoT, any advice AGAINST making a horned helmet for my Gauls?
I have searched and looked up some pics but other than those with fat metal horns, those using natural/real-looking horns might be just fantasy again (like vikings)
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I'm definitely not WoT, so I shouldn't be jumping into a question that he should be answering, but, if you're going for a historically accurate look, do not have the horned helmets for the Gauls. Actually, IMO, you should just leave them helmet-less - most Gauls couldn't afford metal armor.
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I'm definitely not WoT, so I shouldn't be jumping into a question that he should be answering, but, if you're going for a historically accurate look, do not have the horned helmets for the Gauls. Actually, IMO, you should just leave them helmet-less - most Gauls couldn't afford metal armor.
I'm happy to ask the world at large and anyone for help ;)
and thanks for your tongue-in-cheek(?) answer....yes, I do want to stick as close to historical correctness as possible (and look as un-playmo-vikings as possible)
..so youve saved me from wasting time customising a horned helmet and an even bigger heartbreak if you advise me so after making one :P
and what about the use of PM viking legs (with strapped/wrapped boots) on my Gauls? (again, I dont see them, in drawings, wearing them except by DC's Mighty Thor :P )
what's your opinion about those DS Gaul shields? why is it that the Gaul shields I see on the internet are usually these metal ones (which I was painting during my scale-model making days)
I would be glad if anyone can give me some opinion on my Gaul shields and boots, thank you!
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... Actually, IMO, you should just leave them helmet-less - most Gauls couldn't afford metal armor.
Ditto. :)
But if you do give them helmets they should probably be the Roman helms, not even the viking ones.
In reality, rich Gauls would have a helmet that combined the two
(the viking helm (without horns ;)) and the cheek flaps from the Roman helm).
I tried making one once... And at first I really liked it, but I tried painting it....
And it fell apart and the paint got way to thick... :hissyfit:
As for shoes...
It would depend where you lived whether you wore shoes or boots.
But I haven't seen pictures of Gauls with boots that have been tied to their legs... ???
AH-HA!
I know what Playmobil was doing (or at least what we can make of their tied up boots).
In some barbarian cultures, they had extra fabric that made ties they would wrap around the lower parts of their legs.
http://www.google.com/imgres?q=gaul+warrior&um=1&hl=en&client=firefox-a&sa=X&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&biw=1680&bih=892&tbm=isch&tbnid=hFJGe2J4iScodM:&imgrefurl=http://marikaintegratedproject09.wikispaces.com/The%2BRise&docid=TkLZ4PImAgdmgM&w=337&h=480&ei=5P-OTpONIpCztwf_xsmrDA&zoom=1&iact=rc&dur=325&page=1&tbnh=157&tbnw=110&start=0&ndsp=39&ved=1t:429,r:8,s:0&tx=34&ty=100
(Here is an example, it also shows the type of helmet I was talking about.)
But as far as I know, they usually only used this in Britain and Northern Germany. ???
So I doubt you would use them for your Gauls.
Gaul shields would not have been metal, :no: they would have been made of wood.
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ok WoT...I'll just give my horde 1 or 2 helmets ;)
I agree a glued-on pair of flaps would be quite unstable
though it would be a nice challenge to combine a conical helm with the Roman cheek flaps, perhaps by retaining a connecting 'ring' from the Roman helm with a shortened cone stuck on it?
I could try but not wiling to sacrisfice 2 good helmets just to make one :P
boots tied to their legs;
ok..not too often ;)
Gaul shields wood not metal ...ok ok (I thought those pictures/drawings/scale models were supposed to be bronze shields :P)
and I saw this Halberd in one website...I'm hesitant to modify one of our PM ones...were they correct for the (early)period?
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The technique you describe when building the helm is the same one I used,
Keeping the lower part of the roman helm in tact. :)
I do not thing that halberd is period for early Celts. ???
I am not an expert on this period, but I would say no.
Halberds did not start looking like that until the later 17oos.
Even early period halberds from the Middle Ages looked nothing like these.
So I would say no,
besides, I think with Gauls/Celts it is best to keep them very simple.
They would not have made something to look like that unless it were extremely practical.
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so I guess the 'ring' with the pair of Roman flaps disengaged from your 'baseless' helm, right....we could put our heads together for such attempts in future...post it half made of even if failed in this section...I'm sure our other customising friends too may have better ideas....other than ugly epoxy..they will come apart whenever the fused helmet is removed....unless you sand the inside of the ring to make it looser (but i dread it when these loose hats/helmets pop off at the slightest pressure or even just accidentally toppling over the klicky)
OMG..and I let speedo-dad hold a halberd...no wonder he got some funny stares too :P
thanks WoT!
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Maybe some woodworking techniques applied to plastic will yield results... ???
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Hey!
I made some Gaul shields. I've been careful not to put helmets on my Gauls, though it itched a lot to do so...
(http://i762.photobucket.com/albums/xx266/cowabounga/Sarrasins_et_romains/file.jpg)
(http://i762.photobucket.com/albums/xx266/cowabounga/Sarrasins_et_romains/file-1.jpg)
(http://i762.photobucket.com/albums/xx266/cowabounga/Sarrasins_et_romains/file-2.jpg)
Looking at them again, the long shields look like surf boards somehow...maybe these Gauls lived by the sea! :lol:
Hope you all like them!
:wave:
Arnaud
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Wow!
Very nice shields! Pgal :wave:
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:love:
They're GORGEOUS.
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Oh yeah! :o :o :o Wow that are some nice Gauls and the surboard "massai" shield..... well I like them!
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WUOOOOOH!!! :love:
is this what they mean by "it never rains but it pours"?! 8}
(but we have to be careful, Arnaud, never to be too intricate or we wont retain their playmo-looks :P)
...and have you had time to work or sleep? :lol:
...and btw, your Gauls are also too well dressed for speedoDad...you have any with bare feet? and dont you agree we need naked torsos from PM? ;D
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They're AWESOME, Arnaud!
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Impressive! Most Impressive! :wow:
I do love the wooden shields. :clap:
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My favorite is the left guy on the last picture. Very cool!
Greetings
Vauban
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Your custom Gauls/Celts look very good, Cheng, and I especially like the battle ax you customized!
Arnaud, your customs with their custom shields look excellent as well!
It's too bad Playmobil didn't do a better job with their Gallic/Celtic shields, but I guess that's where Arnaud comes in. ;) I'm basically using the round Viking shields and spanglehelms for most of my generic "barbarians" along with spears, swords, daggers, and the large and small medieval battle axes. I've thought of equipping some of them as archers too, but I haven't yet decided. My generic "barbarians" are too heavily armed and armored for many of the roles they're supposed to portray, but I justify this by making them elite warriors. My generic "barbarians" can be any number of ancient Roman "barbarian" enemies, depending on the scenario, and I also use them as the Welsh and Scots from the middle ages. These versatile "barbarians" are not completely historically correct for every tribe and time period, but they're close enough.