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Creative => Story-Telling => Topic started by: Wolf Knight on June 20, 2011, 20:03:12

Title: New firemen need training...
Post by: Wolf Knight on June 20, 2011, 20:03:12
Its a great day for PCFD...
The new firemen are finally out of their boxes... The Chief is happy to inspect them... but there is something missing...
(http://i1176.photobucket.com/albums/x335/Baldthar/DSC02870.jpg)

Unfortunately, these firemen are very new to their line of work and not very well trained...
 (http://i1176.photobucket.com/albums/x335/Baldthar/DSC02871.jpg)
So the Chief had to call in some professionals, the best of the best, to show them how things are done...
(http://i1176.photobucket.com/albums/x335/Baldthar/DSC02872.jpg)

After a brief discussion and planning Bill, Gordon, Baden and FireChief...
(http://i1176.photobucket.com/albums/x335/Baldthar/DSC02873.jpg)

...are ready to take action and start the training of the new firemen....
(http://i1176.photobucket.com/albums/x335/Baldthar/DSC02874.jpg)

THE BEGINNING...
Title: Re: New firemen need training...
Post by: Wolf Knight on June 20, 2011, 20:05:34
Ok guys, I have no idea about firemen training, so any advice would be greatly appreciated  :)
I have my mind in so may projects that I am not sure when I'll manage to do something good but still I am excited to get into and explore a new theme for me!
Title: Re: New firemen need training...
Post by: baden-wurttemberg on June 20, 2011, 21:46:32
Hello Panos,

Great beginning for the story.  :)9

The firemen could start with maybe self-rescue training, also they train how to take klickys out of vehicles, such as cars, trucks, planes, SUVS, etc. They can also begin with learning how to put on their SCBA (Self-Contained Breathing Apparatus) gear. Something else they can begin training with is how to enter building that are on fire. They can begin doing all this training with some klicky dummies so no real playmo klicky is hurt.  ;) I'm sure Gordon, Tim_W, Bill, and Firechief, will be able to give you even more info and tips.

Hope this helps you.

Baden  :wave:
Title: Re: New firemen need training...
Post by: tonguello on June 20, 2011, 23:43:43
 :lol: this is great Panos! good idea to use the avatars!
Im sure the professional help is on the way!  :love: :love:
Title: Re: New firemen need training...
Post by: Wolf Knight on June 21, 2011, 05:35:49
Hello Panos,

Great beginning for the story.  :)9

The firemen could start with maybe self-rescue training, also they train how to take klickys out of vehicles, such as cars, trucks, planes, SUVS, etc. They can also begin with learning how to put on their SCBA (Self-Contained Breathing Apparatus) gear. Something else they can begin training with is how to enter building that are on fire. They can begin doing all this training with some klicky dummies so no real playmo klicky is hurt.  ;) I'm sure Gordon, Tim_W, Bill, and Firechief, will be able to give you even more info and tips.

Hope this helps you.

Baden  :wave:

Hello Julian!! :wave:
Thank you for your reply! Your advice is very much appreciated! the SCBA training and use is the one that is easier for me to do as I have so many of them... As for the rest...WOW! that seems like a lot of hard work... Further details are certainly needed...better look for some equipment, because i have non that is worhty, in the customs and photostory sections...
Title: Re: New firemen need training...
Post by: Wolf Knight on June 21, 2011, 05:40:40
:lol: this is great Panos! good idea to use the avatars!
Im sure the professional help is on the way!  :love: :love:

Thank you Gaston! I felt that a reunion of these avatars would be a great idea for this project! I am counting on their help!  :fireman:
Title: Re: New firemen need training...
Post by: Giorginetto on June 21, 2011, 08:48:46
Look forward to see all these pics sir wolf , perhaps you can create also an evil klicky, a firestarter that the playmo police force will hunt down and the fire brigade will deal with his fires ....



F..f....fff...ffff......fire... FIRE !!! FIRE!!! FIRE !!!!  ( as spoken  in J Cleese's Fawlty Towers)  :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: New firemen need training...
Post by: bonniebeth on June 21, 2011, 11:11:24
So, are you wanting this to be sort of a collaborative photo story, Panos?
Title: Re: New firemen need training...
Post by: Wolf Knight on June 21, 2011, 11:18:41
So, are you wanting this to be sort of a collaborative photo story, Panos?

Why, YES! Bonnie! that would be an excellent idea!! so who is up for it!!! I already watched some very basic training videos on you tube, but I prefer to hear to hear it from the pros here as well!!!
Title: Re: New firemen need training...
Post by: Hadoque on June 21, 2011, 12:14:34
:omg:
An army of...firefighters!
I'd never thought you were into the modern firefighting-theme?!  :eh?:

F..f....fff...ffff......fire... FIRE !!! FIRE!!! FIRE !!!!  ( as spoken  in J Cleese's Fawlty Towers)  :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

I remember that episode!  :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: New firemen need training...
Post by: Wolf Knight on June 21, 2011, 12:17:36
:omg:
An army of...firefighters!
I'd never thought you were into the modern firefighting-theme?!  :eh?:

hehe... i am full of surprises  ;D

I also have an army of police men  ;)
Title: Re: New firemen need training...
Post by: Hadoque on June 21, 2011, 12:21:38
Quote from: Wolf Knight link=topic=8292.msg150298#msg150298
I also have an army of police men  ;)

And demonstrators/rioters as well?  ;D :P

 :uhoh: :toot: :-X  ;D

Title: Re: New firemen need training...
Post by: baden-wurttemberg on June 21, 2011, 15:02:59
Hello Julian!! :wave:
Thank you for your reply! Your advice is very much appreciated! the SCBA training and use is the one that is easier for me to do as I have so many of them... As for the rest...WOW! that seems like a lot of hard work... Further details are certainly needed...better look for some equipment, because i have non that is worhty, in the customs and photostory sections...

I'm glad I helped you. I'm pretty sure you can find many tools and equipment in these threads:

http://www.playmofriends.com/forum/index.php?topic=837.0

http://www.playmofriends.com/forum/index.php?topic=7663.0

http://www.playmofriends.com/forum/index.php?topic=3536.0

http://www.playmofriends.com/forum/index.php?topic=3325.0

http://www.playmofriends.com/forum/index.php?topic=454.0

http://www.playmofriends.com/forum/index.php?topic=3008.0

But not all your tools have to be customised. You can have regular original playmobil tools for a great rescue team. Hope this helped.

Baden
Title: Re: New firemen need training...
Post by: Rasputin on June 21, 2011, 18:04:30
Looking forward to the stories
Title: Re: New firemen need training...
Post by: Wolf Knight on June 21, 2011, 18:22:45
And demonstrators/rioters as well?  ;D :P

 :uhoh: :toot: :-X  ;D

 :evilplan: >:D
Title: Re: New firemen need training...
Post by: Wolf Knight on June 21, 2011, 18:24:41
I'm glad I helped you. I'm pretty sure you can find many tools and equipment in these threads:

http://www.playmofriends.com/forum/index.php?topic=837.0

http://www.playmofriends.com/forum/index.php?topic=7663.0

http://www.playmofriends.com/forum/index.php?topic=3536.0

http://www.playmofriends.com/forum/index.php?topic=3325.0

http://www.playmofriends.com/forum/index.php?topic=454.0

http://www.playmofriends.com/forum/index.php?topic=3008.0

But not all your tools have to be customised. You can have regular original playmobil tools for a great rescue team. Hope this helped.

Baden

thank you for these links Julian, I was looking at some of them this morning!! Not sure how much I'll be able to customise and still missing a lot of items to create something decent but I hope it'll ge there...

Title: Re: New firemen need training...
Post by: Wolf Knight on June 21, 2011, 18:26:27
Looking forward to the stories

coming to the playmofriends forum near you in the not-so-close near future... problem is I am organisning in my mind so many projects  :lol:
Title: Re: New firemen need training...
Post by: playmovictorian on June 23, 2011, 19:30:08
Beautiful demonstration dear Panos which for sure will enchant our Fire Master Bill  :wave:

Karim :)
Title: Re: New firemen need training...
Post by: playmofire on June 23, 2011, 20:39:38
Hi Panos,  I'm afraid I'm busy with the Kirkbean Exhibition in the Playmobil world and a lot else at home so I can't contribute a great deal.  However, basic skills your firefighters need are:

            1.  Hose drill - the drills your firefighters can do depend on which sets you
            have.  I know you have the 4820 and 4821 fire engines, but do you have
            the 4825 hydrant set?  Let me know, but meanwhile I'll tell you what
            drills can be done with the hose you have just with the 4820 and 4821.

            A simple exercise is for the firefighters to extend the hose on the hose
            reel and operate that (one will need to be operating the pump at the
            rear of the 4821).  Another one is for them to
            do this after joining two lengths of hose together.

            With the 4821, the black hose is suction hose and is used for sucking
            water from ponds and streams or other open water supplies.  The drill is
            for the firefighters to position the fire engine near the water supply, fit
            the suction hose to the rear pump, fit the strainer to the last length of
            suction hose and then drop the strainer end into the water.  Other
            firefighters, meanwhile, should have connected  the white hose (delivery
            hose) to the two outlets on the rear pump (or connected the two
            lengths together and connected them to one of the outlets
            two outlets ) ready for when the pump is started up to pump the water
            put of the pond or stream.

            Using the 4820 and the 4821, you can do the above exercise but
            connect the delivery hose from the 4821 to the
            hose from the 4820, after fitting this to the
            water monitor in the basket at the top of the ladder and extend the
            ladder.  This also requires training on the 4821 first..

            Because your firefighters are training, there is no need for a fire to put
            out, at this stage if they can just get the water quickly and efficiently
            through the hose they've got started.

            2.  Ladder drill - this is important so the ladders can be quickly unshipped
            from the fire engine and put to use in firefighting and rescue work.  I
            don't know if you have any ladders to go with the 4820 (let me know if
            you do), so I'll concentrate on the 4821 turntable ladder.

            The crew need to learn to extend the outriggers, lower the jacks, turn,
            elevate and lower the ladder and extend the ladder and operate the
            monitor from the basket or cage.  The last they can combine with hose
            drill with the 4821 - see above.

That's some basic work to keep them going for a while.

Title: Re: New firemen need training...
Post by: Wolf Knight on June 24, 2011, 06:45:52
Thank you for these step by step instructions Gordon!

Yeap I have two 4825 hydrant sets that cen be used wih the drill. I suppose there is a way to connect the pump to the water point on the pavement right?

            don't know if you have any ladders to go with the 4820 (let me know if
            you do), so I'll concentrate on the 4821 turntable ladder.

I am not sure what kind of ladder you can use with 4820, it has already a ladder, did you mean 4821 as this is the turnable ladder, Gordon?

Thank you for these instruction! Knowing your schedule I very much appreciate your help!
Title: Re: New firemen need training...
Post by: playmofire on June 24, 2011, 07:49:16
Thank you for these step by step instructions Gordon!

Gld to help, Panos.  :wave:

Yeap I have two 4825 hydrant sets that cen be used wih the drill. I suppose there is a way to connect the pump to the water point on the pavement right?

Good, I've already drafted out some drills which I'll post this evening for you.  The pump can be connected to the hydrant, but unfortunately only by connecting it to one of the outlet points, but it's good enough as it means you can pulp water.

I am not sure what kind of ladder you can use with 4820, it has already a ladder, did you mean 4821 as this is the turnable ladder, Gordon?

Sorry, Panos, woth working quickly I've not always used the right ste number in my post.  I'll edit it after this post to make it correct.  I've never got used to the fact that originally 4820 was to be the pump and 4821 the turntable ladder, but when they came out the set numbers had been interchanged.  It's possible to use the triple grey ladder with the 4821 - it's this one here in set 3881:

http://www.playmodb.org/cgi-bin/showinv.pl?setnum=3881

to fit it does mean removing the water monitor, but that gives you a reason to have two 4821s - one with the water monitor fitted and one with the ladder!  You can see it fitted here:

http://www.playmofriends.com/forum/index.php?topic=4867.0



Thank you for these instruction! Knowing your schedule I very much appreciate your help!

It's a pleasure.


Hope this helps.
Title: Re: New firemen need training...
Post by: playmofire on June 24, 2011, 07:54:00
I've corrected my original post, Panos.  The corrections are in Maroon.
Title: Re: New firemen need training...
Post by: Wolf Knight on June 24, 2011, 09:12:22
Saddly I dont have that ladder Gordon... But I'll look for it, there are some places in town that still have some old sets... other wise, ebay will do. and I love your rationalisation for having two 4821  :lol:

No worries about the typos I had a feeling you meant it the other way round.  :)

Looking forward to your drafted drills!
Title: Re: New firemen need training...
Post by: playmofire on June 24, 2011, 20:34:11
Saddly I dont have that ladder Gordon... But I'll look for it, there are some places in town that still have some old sets... other wise, ebay will do. and I love your rationalisation for having two 4821  :lol:



Send me your address as I have some spares.
Title: Re: New firemen need training...
Post by: playmofire on June 26, 2011, 20:08:04
Hi Panos, here's a hose drill using the 4821 fire engine and the 4825 hydrant set.  I'm assuming that you have a crew of eight, a driver (who is also the pump operator and usually, too, looks after communications with control), an officer-in-charge (he sits next to the driver) and six firefighters.  (Six is good because it allows you to have two BA (breathing apparatus) crews of two each and still have two crew spare for for other duties.  I always have the driver wearing a green over-jacket:

http://playmodb.org/cgi-bin/showpart.pl?partnum=30-22-5560

the officer in a yellow one:

http://playmodb.org/cgi-bin/showpart.pl?partnum=30-23-2990

and crew members operating around the fire engine, especially at a RTC (road traffic collision) in an orange one:

http://playmodb.org/cgi-bin/showpart.pl?partnum=30-21-8000

It's not possible to have a firefighter wearing an over-jacket and BA gear.

Here's drill 1:

1.   Two crew take the standpipe and hydrant key and hurry to the hydrant. 

2.  At the same time, two crew unhitch the hose reel from the rear of the fire engine and start running  towards the hydrant plate, having handed the loose end of the hose to the driver/pump operator at the rear of the fire engine.

3.  The hydrant crew, open up the hydrant, insert the standpipe and when the crew with the hose reel reach them, one of the hydrant crew connects the end of the hose to one side of the standpipe while the other inserts the hydrant key and prepares to turn the water on.

4.  By now, the driver has connected the other end of the hose to the inlet point in the centre of the pump. 

5.  Another crew member has, meanwhile, unrolled the hose reel hose and connected it to one of the pump outlets and is now ready to use the hose.  (You can have two crew holding the hose, one holding the nozzle [strictly speaking, it's called the branch] and the other the hose just behind the first one.)  At this point the driver signals to the hydrant crew to turn the water on.

6.  The crew member holding the branch signals by raising his arm that they are ready and the driver then starts the pump.

Using the water pump provided with the 4825 set, you can connect this to the other side of the hydrant and pump water through the hydrant to the pump on the fire engine and through the hose held by the firemen.

Hope this makes sense as it was done in a rush.

Tomorrow, I'll try and do a drill for pumping water from a pond or stream.

(I hope you've got spare lengths of hose, btw.)

6.
Title: Re: New firemen need training...
Post by: baden-wurttemberg on June 27, 2011, 02:36:20
Wow thank you Panos! Thanks to you, I'm learning a couple of things I didn't know also.

Thanks Panos and Gordon.

Baden  :wave:
Title: Re: New firemen need training...
Post by: Wolf Knight on June 27, 2011, 05:39:35
Thank you Gordon!! This is excellent!! I'll work on its as soon as I can!!! I do have some more hose length from the classic fire truck!

Your instructions are very clear! If I come across difficulties I'll ask you again. Unfortunately, I have no overjackets... maybe one or two..

Looking forward to the tream/pond pumping !!!