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Title: Painting PM houses (split from Review of Grande Mansion 5302)
Post by: playmogal on June 17, 2011, 13:06:29
great revew !! very detailed  :)

as i see it now though i don't like the colours that much especially the windows ... yellow window?  ??? no a little silly  :hmm:
 
 


no?  :hmm: ;D 

I also have a problem with yellow windows, which won't be yellow for long! First spray on a couple of coats of white primer and then spray on any color your heart desires! Woohoo!  :love: :love: :love:

Same with the roof and whatever else needs a color makeover. Just make sure you let the paint cure for 5 days before using the pieces, and DO NO DO THIS INDOORS!

So glad someone invented spraypaint, Pgal :wave:
Title: Re: Painting PM houses (split from Review of Grande Mansion 5302)
Post by: bonniebeth on June 17, 2011, 14:58:03
Yeah, I was thinking I may paint the whole thing. It's a lot of work, I'll have to think about it.
Title: Re: Painting PM houses (split from Review of Grande Mansion 5302)
Post by: playmogal on June 17, 2011, 15:52:21
bb: It will add at least week to building the set and is much easier if you just spray certain parts. It definitely changed the look of my suburban and modern houses. Now that the swimming pool has finally arrived, it is time to take some photos of those two. An early photo of the new green windows and doors is below.

It has taken a while to locate and spray paint the vehicles that go with those houses. They should be ready in a few days when the last economy car and two scooters arrive. I wish they made the economy car in 10 pastel colors, like light orange, purple, pink, blue, yellow, tan, teal, salmon, and maybe a white one. Colors that match the plastic spray paints would be wonderful. This car is small and modern and perfect for newer houses as shown below.

Cheers, Pgal :wave:
Title: Re: Painting PM houses (split from Review of Grande Mansion 5302)
Post by: naflibomyalp on June 17, 2011, 16:47:09
Playmogal,
I really like the colour of the roof on your house.  I definitely more realistic.   :yup:
naflibomyalp
Title: Re: Painting PM houses (split from Review of Grande Mansion 5302)
Post by: Wolf Knight on June 17, 2011, 17:16:10
I like this paint job very much playmogal!! Excellent choise of colours!!!
Title: Re: Painting PM houses (split from Review of Grande Mansion 5302)
Post by: playmogal on June 17, 2011, 19:30:40
Nafi and Wolf,
Thanks! The green works well on a lot of house pieces. Glad you like it.
Cheers, Pgal :wave:
Title: Re: Painting PM houses (split from Review of Grande Mansion 5302)
Post by: playmo1989 on June 18, 2011, 02:38:15
I also have a problem with yellow windows, which won't be yellow for long! First spray on a couple of coats of white primer and then spray on any color your heart desires! Woohoo!  :love: :love: :love:

Same with the roof and whatever else needs a color makeover. Just make sure you let the paint cure for 5 days before using the pieces, and DO NO DO THIS INDOORS!

So glad someone invented spraypaint, Pgal :wave:
 

yeah ... that's a cheap solution though if you're not good with painting i've painted many frames ....etc (not playmobil) and they were horrible i don't know if it could work  :-\ also it's better having the originall color if you want to paint the whole thing because it won't look so good
Title: Re: Painting PM houses (split from Review of Grande Mansion 5302)
Post by: playmogal on June 18, 2011, 03:48:35
Yup, painting PM is indeed perilous, and I have never painted a wall and don't know how they will turn out. Has anyone tried it with System X walls?

Hubby says the secret is to spray the paint lightly each coat so it does not make clumps. His touch is much better than mine so far. Fortunately I am not a perfectionist, so a few small uneven spots don't bother me. Plus my vision is not that great in low light, which is required for all PM due to fading.

Also be sure to get the spray paint and primer made for bonding with plastic. That is important. And shake the cans for about a minute each time you use them.

My 5302 just arrived, so will have to explore paint color options this week. Should be exciting!

I just pulled the Klickies out of all of the accessory boxes and am thrilled with them! Especially the bikini lady in the bathroom! She will look lovely by my swimming pool in the backyard!

Cheers, Pgal :wave:
Title: Re: Painting PM houses (split from Review of Grande Mansion 5302)
Post by: playmogal on June 18, 2011, 03:54:32
Maybe you could find some time to do a review on them when you get them  ;) With all the other buttons this house has they seem to fit right in.

Also could you please check on your package where the electronics are made? Geobra did not even have the ability to make the mini magnet sets so I am curious where these are made.

playmobil sure is going the electronic route more and more.

Ras: My 5302  and accessories just arrived! The lighting kit for 5302 is made in Germany it says on the package. Looks like it will work on the 2nd and top floor but not the first because it requires a supporting/dividing wall in the middle of the house to hold the battery case. Will get photos of the parts in a day or two as we just returned home from a business trip. 

TTFN, Pgal  :wave:
Title: Re: Painting PM houses (split from Review of Grande Mansion 5302)
Post by: bonniebeth on June 18, 2011, 11:25:24
Hubby says the secret is to spray the paint lightly each coat so it does not make clumps. His touch is much better than mine so far. Fortunately I am not a perfectionist, so a few small uneven spots don't bother me. Plus my vision is not that great in low light, which is required for all PM due to fading.

Also be sure to get the spray paint and primer made for bonding with plastic. That is important. And shake the cans for about a minute each time you use them.

Yes, very thin coats are the key, just like any other paint. If you start worrying about trying to get good coverage, you end up with bubbles and clumps. I've spray painted so much metal lawn furniture, I have the touch down. I've been trying to teach Chris how to do it, he always gets in a hurry and sprays on way too much in the first coat.

Krylon fusion works really well. It bonds to the plastic beautifully.
Title: Re: Painting PM houses (split from Review of Grande Mansion 5302)
Post by: playmogal on June 18, 2011, 13:14:43

Yes, very thin coats are the key, just like any other paint. If you start worrying about trying to get good coverage, you end up with bubbles and clumps. I've spray painted so much metal lawn furniture, I have the touch down. I've been trying to teach Chris how to do it, he always gets in a hurry and sprays on way too much in the first coat.

Krylon fusion works really well. It bonds to the plastic beautifully.

bb: That is exactly right! We used Krylon Fusion for the roofs in black metallic hammered for the Modern House 3695 and bronze metallic hammered for the Suburban House 4279. Both turned out great!

It helps if you stuff the red connector holes with rolled up tissue so they are free of spray paint. You can tape any areas you don't want painted with blue painter's tape that comes off easily after it dries. We spray paint on old cardboard boxes resting on a broken plastic lawn chair that is ready for the dump.

When you apply a new coat or turn the items over, move to an area of the cardboard that is not newly painted if you can. A hot outside temp is a plus, but try to keep the parts out of the direct sunlight for more than 15 minutes or the bottoms will stick to the cardboard and you have to repaint them because the paint will peel off when you lift them. If there is lots of dust or stuff blowing out of your trees, find a calmer area away from them as it will stick to your wet surfaces.

My favorite spray paint color is Valspar's satin in summer leaf 65082, the green in my 3695 photos. We have painted two cars this color, and they look fabulous, too. It takes about 10 light coats of a white primer, like Rust-Olean Plastic Primer, to cover the blue and white police cruiser, which is a bear to dismantle. Then about 4 coats of summer leaf green does the job.

Will stop by Lowe's today with some of my 5302 parts of each color in hand and see what colors might look good together. This spray paint is inexpensive and comes in many colors.

If you are really uptight about spraying some of your lovely PM, start with an older used set that is ready for a major renovation. The first house I bought was a used 3965 off Craigslist, and it was less painful than spraying a new one. Then I moved on to a 4279, feeling a bit more apprehensive because it was new. We all have damaged parts lying around that are good for spray painting tests.

Next I will test the spray paints on some damaged System X white wall panels that came in a batch of used parts off eBay. Anyone know how to paint these parts?

happy painting, Pgal :wave:
Title: Re: Painting PM houses (split from Review of Grande Mansion 5302)
Post by: Emma.J on June 21, 2011, 13:49:57
 :wave: Hi Playmogal,
as your painting a 5302 I thought you might like to see what I did with mine.

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-g7dVm7njrvs/TNdMGIOimmI/AAAAAAAAA1M/2P6E5Go3VZ0/s400/SDC19873.JPG)

I repainted both floors and all the windows. What did you think about the door frame on the middle floor I thought is was a bit low so I swapped it for the larger one.

You don't need a dividing wall for the lights if you don't want one I hid my battery pack on the top floor behind a wine rack. I added an extra switch unit and wired all three floors from the top downwards, adding on a couple of extra lights as well.

They do look good lit up, I look forward to seeing yours.

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-TXMHWuI6HHA/TNdMj7NmXHI/AAAAAAAAA30/-IVRAthFWTU/s400/SDC19960.JPG)

......
Krylon fusion works really well. It bonds to the plastic beautifully.

Ooooh I shall have to find that sort of paint have you tried it on a couch yet? I use plasticote spray paint for my buildings.
Title: Re: Painting PM houses (split from Review of Grande Mansion 5302)
Post by: bonniebeth on June 21, 2011, 13:55:57
No, I haven't... in fact I don't have a couch. I've painted my zoo fencing (there's a topic about that somewhere) and bronzed an elephant (there's one about that, too) using this type of paint, and the results were beautiful. I will say one thing though, the other day I took down the elephant to look at it, and you know how the tail is made of a softer, flexible plastic? Well, I noticed a big chunk of paint was scraped off of that part at some point, so I don't think it bonded very well to that type. But with the regular hard plastic, after you let it dry for a good long time, that paint isn't going anywhere.
Title: Re: Painting PM houses (split from Review of Grande Mansion 5302)
Post by: playmogal on June 21, 2011, 14:12:33
:wave: Hi Playmogal,
as your painting a 5302 I thought you might like to see what I did with mine.

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-g7dVm7njrvs/TNdMGIOimmI/AAAAAAAAA1M/2P6E5Go3VZ0/s400/SDC19873.JPG)

I repainted both floors and all the windows. What did you think about the door frame on the middle floor I thought is was a bit low so I swapped it for the larger one.

You don't need a dividing wall for the lights if you don't want one I hid my battery pack on the top floor behind a wine rack. I added an extra switch unit and wired all three floors from the top downwards, adding on a couple of extra lights as well.

They do look good lit up, I look forward to seeing yours.

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-TXMHWuI6HHA/TNdMj7NmXHI/AAAAAAAAA30/-IVRAthFWTU/s400/SDC19960.JPG)

Ooooh I shall have to find that sort of paint have you tried it on a couch yet? I use plasticote spray paint for my buildings.

Emma,
Love your Bistro!!! The colors are wonderful, and the full size door mantel is perfect on the floor above the ground floor.  :love:
Your lighting looks exquisite and adds so much character!
Have not painted the walls yet, but the roof, window inserts and curtains painted just fine. Should have my last two lighting kits in a day or two from US DS.
Congrats on a fine custom! If you want to post some more details of the interior, that would be fun to see.
Mine will be a house first. Then I can decide what to do with it.
This is a wonderful set for customization with so many color options and such nice trim.
Keep up the great work!!!

TTFN, Pgal :wave:
Title: Re: Painting PM houses (split from Review of Grande Mansion 5302)
Post by: bonniebeth on June 21, 2011, 14:17:05
Here you go, Pgal! http://www.playmofriends.com/forum/index.php?topic=6200.0
Title: Re: Painting PM houses (split from Review of Grande Mansion 5302)
Post by: playmogal on June 21, 2011, 15:36:56
BB: Thanks!
WOW WOW WOW! WOW is all that comes to my mind viewing all of the photos of your lovely bistro.
Emma, thanks for posting this. Cheers, Pgal :wave:
Title: Re: Painting PM houses (split from Review of Grande Mansion 5302)
Post by: playmogal on June 25, 2011, 03:07:52
Painting Your 5302 mansion.....Color Choices

This is a very tough decision because you are defacing an expensive, new toy (unless a very thoughtful person gave you this as a gift and you did not have to pay for it like the rest of us!) We took a few 5302 pieces to the home improvement store (Lowe's) and cruised the spray paint section.

This is our favorite "date" place because it is the store we go to most often, especially now that both of the nearby Borders bookstores have closed. On our first date ever, hubby closed the rear door of his van loaded with 2x4 pieces of lumber and broke out the front and back windows at the same time. I was quite impressed, and it was a very romantic date!

The first thing we paint is the red roof, which is our least favorite part of any model house. We selected Krylon Fusion Brown Metallic Hammered, 2534, to bring out the orange and yellows in the walls and window shutters. Hubby went outside and primed and then sprayed 2 coats of the Krylon on the all surfaces of the roof pieces. Then we let it cure for a week.

Next we selected Valspar Satin 65047 in cappuccino for the window inserts. This took a coat of primer and two coats of the Valspar, and a week to cure.

The lighting is now in the first three floors (not the attic), and the painted roof and window inserts are installed. So far the colors look fine. Will wait until we have natural light in the morning to see how it looks before deciding whether we like these colors and if we want the flower boxes to match the window inserts.

Photos (below) of the roof, curtains, window inserts and lighting show progress to date.

Note: Relaxing music to paint, build and decorate with: Antonio Pinto's score to the film, Love in the Time of Cholera.

Enjoy, Pgal :wave:

Title: Re: Painting PM houses (split from Review of Grande Mansion 5302)
Post by: Wolf Knight on June 25, 2011, 05:30:14
you painted it already? Nice colour!!!
Title: Re: Painting PM houses (split from Review of Grande Mansion 5302)
Post by: playmo1989 on June 25, 2011, 06:52:36
oh great !! you didn't paint the windows? can you post more pictures please with the lighting etc etc... it seems to have a lot of light  ???
Title: Re: Painting PM houses (split from Review of Grande Mansion 5302)
Post by: tonguello on June 26, 2011, 11:43:27
I reaaaaaally like the color of the roof! very good choice.
But I wonder what kind of paint is that that needs 2 coats plus prime and a week to cure....  ???

I couldn't wait that long  :lol: I use Umbrol enamel and it dries in a couple of hours on dry days. Some colors even in less than an hour, depending on how shiny they are. I recomend them  :)

Anyway, the house is looking good! you already have the sets that go with it?  :wave:
Title: Re: Painting PM houses (split from Review of Grande Mansion 5302)
Post by: Birdie on July 26, 2011, 15:28:54
Wow, that looks gorgeous  :inlove: 
Title: Re: Painting PM houses (split from Review of Grande Mansion 5302)
Post by: basilsdad on July 26, 2011, 16:16:01
Beautiful paint job, I agree with Gaston the roof color was a great choice.  :love:
Joe
Title: Re: Painting PM houses (split from Review of Grande Mansion 5302)
Post by: Salamander on July 14, 2015, 19:06:59
I'm about to venture into painting for the first time...I'm a little nervous!

This thread mentions Krylon Fusion spray paint.  Is seems to have been in reference to big pieces. Is that still the right thing to use if I'm doing small pieces - torsos and arms?

Is spray paint recommended over using a brush (and I guess some kind of model paint?)  I know nothing, any advice would be great.

Does it matter if you have different coloured torso and arms to begin with - will they turn out the same looking after the painting or will you be able to tell if one part was beige and the other black to begin? I guess if you use enough paint...?
Title: Re: Painting PM houses (split from Review of Grande Mansion 5302)
Post by: savvas on July 15, 2015, 07:40:41
Brush for small parts, spray for big ones. Painting figures is a very very difficult job, i painted about a dozen houses but never dared to do such a thing. And don't forget the varnish in the end. Anyway, good luck! ;)
Title: Re: Painting PM houses (split from Review of Grande Mansion 5302)
Post by: tahra on July 15, 2015, 07:50:15
I never painted a full torso or something like that... Only smallish details. I used acrylic paints (most belong to my sister and are like 100 years old. Ok, not 100, but may be close to 15-20.... uhm.)

Are there no "original" parts you can use?

Do show us the result, and the progress, please!
Title: Re: Painting PM houses (split from Review of Grande Mansion 5302)
Post by: Baron Marshall on July 15, 2015, 08:47:01
I used krylon fusion to paint a tiger green... worked very well. But I use nail polish for detail work most of the time now. ;)
Title: Re: Painting PM houses (split from Review of Grande Mansion 5302)
Post by: tahra on July 15, 2015, 09:24:15
I used krylon fusion to paint a tiger green... worked very well. But I use nail polish for detail work most of the time now. ;)

A green tiger... Battlecat?

:picsplz:
Title: Re: Painting PM houses (split from Review of Grande Mansion 5302)
Post by: Baron Marshall on July 15, 2015, 11:58:59
I'll start another customs thread soonish, I hope, and try to remember to put them in there.  Haven't gotten around to making the armor for battlecat yet though  :lol:
Title: Re: Painting PM houses (split from Review of Grande Mansion 5302)
Post by: Salamander on July 15, 2015, 15:15:33
Sadly tahra, there are no original parts in the colour I need! That would be so much easier!
Title: Re: Painting PM houses (split from Review of Grande Mansion 5302)
Post by: Oliver on September 07, 2016, 10:19:49
I'm bumping this, I hope that's the right thing....

I'm planning on painting a building, but it will consist of different wall colours. Should I spray the whole thing white first to give a better base?

I've only painted Playmobil once before, and that was some white walls that had yellowed badly. I just used ordinary spray paint, probably from Wilkinsons, so maybe that was the wrong thing to do?
Title: Re: Painting PM houses (split from Review of Grande Mansion 5302)
Post by: leefert on September 07, 2016, 12:06:10
I'm bumping this, I hope that's the right thing....

I'm planning on painting a building, but it will consist of different wall colours. Should I spray the whole thing white first to give a better base?

I've only painted Playmobil once before, and that was some white walls that had yellowed badly. I just used ordinary spray paint, probably from Wilkinsons, so maybe that was the wrong thing to do?

I like to use a primer coat first, it helps substantially when you are making a color change. It also helps to make an even coverage of paint.
Title: Re: Painting PM houses (split from Review of Grande Mansion 5302)
Post by: cheng on September 07, 2016, 12:12:18
This thread mentions Krylon Fusion spray paint.  Is seems to have been in reference to big pieces. Is that still the right thing to use if I'm doing small pieces - torsos and arms?

Is spray paint recommended over using a brush (and I guess some kind of model paint?)  I know nothing, any advice would be great.

Does it matter if you have different coloured torso and arms to begin with - will they turn out the same looking after the painting or will you be able to tell if one part was beige and the other black to begin? I guess if you use enough paint...?

I do use Krylon to spray on my samurai klickies too....no problem but its difficult to aim and also to get an even thin finish, so I'll agree with savvas that you get your experience by spraying the bigger pieces first

brush almost always give a thicker finish and streaks will show

i'm not 100% sure (because I've no knowledge of how Geobra prints these colours on klicky parts) but it looks like Geobra also has a white layer first before printing on the red.

if youre spraying dark colours over lighter colours, its fine.....but if youre say, going to spray bright red over black, its better you spray a base layer of white
Title: Re: Painting PM houses (split from Review of Grande Mansion 5302)
Post by: tahra on September 07, 2016, 12:54:48
i'm not 100% sure (because I've no knowledge of how Geobra prints these colours on klicky parts) but it looks like Geobra also has a white layer first before printing on the red.

I can confirm that in many cases... When "cleaning" the klickys, there are several layers of colors...
Title: Re: Painting PM houses (split from Review of Grande Mansion 5302)
Post by: cheng on September 07, 2016, 13:59:59
I can confirm that in many cases... When "cleaning" the klickys, there are several layers of colors...

Good to know, after so many years   :)
Title: Re: Painting PM houses (split from Review of Grande Mansion 5302)
Post by: playmofire on September 07, 2016, 14:25:49
Printing on klickies often has under-layers, usually black or white.
Title: Re: Painting PM houses (split from Review of Grande Mansion 5302)
Post by: Salamander on September 07, 2016, 16:31:42
Hee, all my painting questions from earlier in this thread were for my abandoned project. And I ended up doing a ton of painting for it! >:(

I went with acrylic paint and a brush. It was good in that there were way more colours to choose from. Streaks weren't too bad, I just gave another coat. The down side was it came off (scratched) so easily! If I painted a torso, I had to be ridiculously careful if  I was putting anything over (say a quiver), as it would frequently muck it up.
Title: Re: Painting PM houses (split from Review of Grande Mansion 5302)
Post by: playmofire on September 07, 2016, 17:18:31
Did you prime before painting?
Title: Re: Painting PM houses (split from Review of Grande Mansion 5302)
Post by: Salamander on September 07, 2016, 17:21:29
Well, no of course not! That would have doubled the effort involved! (And probably meant it would've worked!  :lol:)
Title: Re: Painting PM houses (split from Review of Grande Mansion 5302)
Post by: Oliver on November 06, 2016, 14:42:13
I finally got round to this - I used a cheap primer from Wilkinson and then Montana Gold brand for the top coat. I feel it's a good finish, and they had a great range of colours. Hopefully it won't chip off.