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Title: Seaport & Beachtown Coastal Railway running indoors
Post by: playmofire on May 24, 2011, 20:41:23
Having had to take up the tracks outside, I've been making use of space indoors to experiment with different layouts for the S & B R C with a view to a permanent layout of some sort.   This would involve an end to end running system in its ideal form rather than an oval, but space may mean one approach is used one time and the other another time depending on the space available.  There would be the following places on the route:

Beachtown - the larger and southern terminus of the line

The mineral line siding

Pond End station

Farm Halt

Name to be decided

Seaport - the northern and smaller terminus

Here are photos of the layouts so far tried out although they are not in the final planned running order. 

First, the Beachtown terminus (the platform will be between the right hand track of the loop and the first siding).  This incorporates a loop which allows the train to arrive loco front first and then leave loco front first.  This can be done either by simply running the train round the loop and then reversing it into the station after the passengers have got off, or by stopping in the station and then, while the passengers get out, running the loco round the loop and reversing it on to the train.  The loop is also handy in that with the three internal sidings complicated shunting operations are possible.

(http://i704.photobucket.com/albums/ww48/playmofire/Playmobil/Playmobil%20trains/Indoors%20May%2013th%202011/Beachtownterminus.jpg)

With the temporary set up, there is a climb from Beachtown in the conservatory and into the kitchen.  The track rises 4 inches in 36 inches horizontal distance so it's pretty steep:

(http://i704.photobucket.com/albums/ww48/playmofire/Playmobil/Playmobil%20trains/Indoors%20May%2013th%202011/ClimbfromBeachtowntothekitchen.jpg)

The climb ends with the train travelling through the kitchen:

(http://i704.photobucket.com/albums/ww48/playmofire/Playmobil/Playmobil%20trains/Indoors%20May%2013th%202011/Intothekitchen.jpg)

and then along the hall:

(http://i704.photobucket.com/albums/ww48/playmofire/Playmobil/Playmobil%20trains/Indoors%20May%2013th%202011/Halllineagain.jpg)

past the mineral siding into the spare bedroom:

(http://i704.photobucket.com/albums/ww48/playmofire/Playmobil/Playmobil%20trains/Indoors%20May%2013th%202011/Alongthehallwiththeminerallinesidingandloopinthedistance.jpg)

and into the Seaport terminus:

(http://i704.photobucket.com/albums/ww48/playmofire/Playmobil/Playmobil%20trains/Indoors%20May%2013th%202011/Seaportterminus.jpg)

Title: Re: Seaport & Beachtown Coastal Railway running indoors
Post by: Hadoque on May 24, 2011, 21:02:31
Apparantly the traintracks go through the whole house, bedroom(s) as well?
Title: Re: Seaport & Beachtown Coastal Railway running indoors
Post by: Playmoholics on May 24, 2011, 21:07:41
 :lol: That is fantastic  :love:
Title: Re: Seaport & Beachtown Coastal Railway running indoors
Post by: playmofire on May 24, 2011, 21:11:16
Apparantly the traintracks go through the whole house, bedroom(s) as well?

Well, into one bedroom!
Title: Re: Seaport & Beachtown Coastal Railway running indoors
Post by: playmofire on May 24, 2011, 21:12:10
:lol: That is fantastic  :love:

Thank you!    :wave:
Title: Re: Seaport & Beachtown Coastal Railway running indoors
Post by: playmofire on May 24, 2011, 21:15:45
I'm just uploading a video of a run from Seaport and back.

Watch this space (well, the next post from me).
Title: Re: Seaport & Beachtown Coastal Railway running indoors
Post by: playmofire on May 24, 2011, 21:49:58
Here's the video of the indoor run from Seaport to Beachtown and back.  Apologies for the poor quality of the video.

Although on the return trip the train takes the climb out of Beachtown slowly, that's caution on my part not that the little loco's not up to.  The first time I tried the climb I did it too fast and the loco shot over the brow leaving the trucks behind!

Here's the link, just click on the photo and it'll take you to the video in the photobucket folder.

(http://i704.photobucket.com/albums/ww48/playmofire/Playmobil/Playmobil%20trains/Indoors%20May%2013th%202011/th_P1050328.jpg) (http://s704.photobucket.com/albums/ww48/playmofire/Playmobil/Playmobil%20trains/Indoors%20May%2013th%202011/?action=view&current=P1050328.mp4)
Title: Re: Seaport & Beachtown Coastal Railway running indoors
Post by: playmo1989 on May 24, 2011, 22:18:03
that's nice gordon  :lol:  i wonder how you can sleep at night with all this noise   ???  or it's not travelling at night ? (http://www.mazeguy.net/movie-tv/trolley.gif) (http://www.mazeguy.net/movie-tv/trolley.gif) (http://www.mazeguy.net/movie-tv/trolley.gif) (http://www.mazeguy.net/movie-tv/trolley.gif)
Title: Re: Seaport & Beachtown Coastal Railway running indoors
Post by: Wesley Myers on May 24, 2011, 23:45:57
That's a fair amount of track.  :)
Title: Re: Seaport & Beachtown Coastal Railway running indoors
Post by: playmofire on May 25, 2011, 08:26:10
that's nice gordon  :lol:  i wonder how you can sleep at night with all this noise   ???  or it's not travelling at night ? (http://www.mazeguy.net/movie-tv/trolley.gif) (http://www.mazeguy.net/movie-tv/trolley.gif) (http://www.mazeguy.net/movie-tv/trolley.gif) (http://www.mazeguy.net/movie-tv/trolley.gif)

Sadly, Alex, it doesn't travel at night, but I may work on that!
Title: Re: Seaport & Beachtown Coastal Railway running indoors
Post by: playmofire on May 25, 2011, 08:27:22
That's a fair amount of track.  :)

And it's not all!  I've another two boxes of curves on their way and there is other track I didn't use in that layout.  I must do a stock take and calculate the footage.
Title: Re: Seaport & Beachtown Coastal Railway running indoors
Post by: playmo1989 on May 26, 2011, 02:58:55
Sadly, Alex, it doesn't travel at night, but I may work on that!



sadly? why? you're lucky the steem engine would buzz in your ears ...

  :yippee: :yippee: :yippee: :yippee: :yippee:
Title: Re: Seaport & Beachtown Coastal Railway running indoors
Post by: Wolf Knight on May 26, 2011, 05:47:26
Awesome quality time at home Gordon!!! Now I want a train too...
Title: Re: Seaport & Beachtown Coastal Railway running indoors
Post by: playmo1989 on May 26, 2011, 06:00:22
Awesome quality time at home Gordon!!! Now I want a train too...

 oh you don't have any train pano?
Title: Re: Seaport & Beachtown Coastal Railway running indoors
Post by: Wolf Knight on May 26, 2011, 06:07:43

 oh you don't have any train pano?

no....  :'( and I can't find any that is cheap enough... Then again I only want a 4034 - Large West. Train Set / Trans. (http://playmodb.org/cgi-bin/showinv.pl?setnum=4034) and its so hard and expensive to come by  :'(
Title: Re: Seaport & Beachtown Coastal Railway running indoors
Post by: playmo1989 on May 26, 2011, 23:04:36
no....  :'( and I can't find any that is cheap enough... Then again I only want a 4034 - Large West. Train Set / Trans. (http://playmodb.org/cgi-bin/showinv.pl?setnum=4034) and its so hard and expensive to come by  :'(

 yes this is expensive  :( you can buy a 4000 instead  ? it depends in what condition it is you can find a used one very cheap ,i have only one train the 1997 last classic train (i don't remember it's number ??? ) from childhood which i have in the basement  :lol: :lol: :lol: oh i need to start a train collection  ???

 this is a good an honest seller he has good stuff and trains from time to time ,i don't see any good trains now but he'll bring for sure :

 http://stores.ebay.at/bebels-PLAYMOBIL-Fundgrube/_i.html?_fsub=6092691
Title: Re: Seaport & Beachtown Coastal Railway running indoors
Post by: tonguello on May 26, 2011, 23:09:13
That's amazing Gordon!!!!!!   I sooooo want to have a train now!!!!  :lol:
Title: Re: Seaport & Beachtown Coastal Railway running indoors
Post by: playmofire on May 27, 2011, 07:08:11
Awesome quality time at home Gordon!!! Now I want a train too...

It's a dangerous line to go down, Panos!   :lol:
Title: Re: Seaport & Beachtown Coastal Railway running indoors
Post by: Skywalker on May 27, 2011, 07:54:53
Great train set up ! that looks like a lot of fun  :)
Title: Re: Seaport & Beachtown Coastal Railway running indoors
Post by: playmofire on May 30, 2011, 14:53:49
Thank you Gaston and Skywalker  :wave: I can really recommend the train theme but it is gripping once you start on it!
Title: Re: Seaport & Beachtown Coastal Railway running indoors
Post by: Skywalker on May 30, 2011, 18:37:17
yepp   :lol:

http://www.playmofriends.com/forum/index.php?topic=8132.0
Title: Re: Seaport & Beachtown Coastal Railway running indoors
Post by: playmofirth on June 27, 2011, 18:49:43
I would love to see some of this running at the next Knaresborough exhibition event. It would be spectacular.  I dont think I can give more than 32ft of length though.

Mark
Title: Re: Seaport & Beachtown Coastal Railway running indoors
Post by: playmofire on June 27, 2011, 19:16:29
I would love to see some of this running at the next Knaresborough exhibition event. It would be spectacular.  I dont think I can give more than 32ft of length though.

Mark

I'll do some measuring, Mark, and see what I can do with 32ft.

How much width do I have?
Title: Re: Seaport & Beachtown Coastal Railway running indoors
Post by: schluss on June 28, 2011, 08:25:38
Hi,

nice video. I guess my wife would kill me if I would try to make such a layout in our bedroom...

It seems that you need a few more straight rails, the train driver gets drunk with the current curves....

Regards
schluss
Title: Re: Seaport & Beachtown Coastal Railway running indoors
Post by: playmofire on June 28, 2011, 14:56:43
Hi,

nice video.

Thanks, glad you liked it.

I guess my wife would kill me if I would try to make such a layout in our bedroom...

It's the spare/guest bedroom, so no problem.   ;D

It seems that you need a few more straight rails, the train driver gets drunk with the current curves....

I've based it partly on the North York Moors Railway which has one section where it curves backwards and forwards a lot.  Here's a link to a map of the line (the black and white one):

http://www.britishideas.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/nymr-web.jpg



Regards
schluss
Title: Re: Seaport & Beachtown Coastal Railway running indoors
Post by: Rasputin on June 28, 2011, 16:10:30

It seems that you need a few more straight rails, the train driver gets drunk with the current curves....

Regards
schluss

Yes I see this is a common solution to not having enough straight track  :lol:

Great indoor layout Gordon, looks like so much fun.
Title: Re: Seaport & Beachtown Coastal Railway running indoors
Post by: playmofirth on June 28, 2011, 21:00:06
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I'll do some measuring, Mark, and see what I can do with 32ft.

How much width do I have?

Mostly 4ft - particularly for the middle section.  Having said that I am thinking of a raised 1ft wide strip at the back of the display.  (This would be raised by 9 to 12 inches.  What sort of incline can you handle?)

There could be a turning circle at each end, or just a halt with some sidings.  What is your best turning circle?

I'll provide some sketch ideas.

Mark
Title: Re: Seaport & Beachtown Coastal Railway running indoors
Post by: playmofire on June 29, 2011, 08:36:19
Mostly 4ft - particularly for the middle section.  Having said that I am thinking of a raised 1ft wide strip at the back of the display.  (This would be raised by 9 to 12 inches.  What sort of incline can you handle?)

There could be a turning circle at each end, or just a halt with some sidings.  What is your best turning circle?

I'll provide some sketch ideas.

Mark

I'll do some measuring, Mark, but turning circles with G gauge tend, inevitably, to be big.  The smallest is the one you can see in the garage video in the Kirkbean topic.  The best in terms of what it offers for a display is the one in this thread with the internal sidings.
Title: Re: Seaport & Beachtown Coastal Railway running indoors
Post by: playmofirth on June 29, 2011, 10:56:24
How wide is the turning with the internal sidings in the first picture? and how long from front to back (from the points to the furthest extent of the circle)?

Mark
Title: Re: Seaport & Beachtown Coastal Railway running indoors
Post by: playmofire on June 29, 2011, 12:28:28
How wide is the turning with the internal sidings in the first picture? and how long from front to back (from the points to the furthest extent of the circle)?

Mark

A minimum circle is 4ft outside diameter, so you need at least 4ft 6ins and ideally a bit more, say 5ft to allow room for derailments.

I'm pretty certain the Beachtown one is 5ft by 9ft, but I'll check.
Title: Re: Seaport & Beachtown Coastal Railway running indoors
Post by: playmofire on June 29, 2011, 19:40:34
Mostly 4ft - particularly for the middle section.  Having said that I am thinking of a raised 1ft wide strip at the back of the display.  (This would be raised by 9 to 12 inches.  What sort of incline can you handle?)




I'll provide some sketch ideas.

Mark

What limits the incline is the length of climb rather than the height.  The angle where the incline ends and the line returns to the horizontal is pretty critical.  If the change is too sharp, the loco comes uncoupled from the train.

Look forward to seeing the sketches.
Title: Re: Seaport & Beachtown Coastal Railway running indoors
Post by: playmofire on June 29, 2011, 19:42:26
Mark,  I've started a new topic here on the possible Knaresborough layout:

http://www.playmofriends.com/forum/index.php?topic=8368.0