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Title: who named this klicky sherlock holmes ?
Post by: playmo1989 on September 07, 2010, 16:04:40
 
who named this klicky sherlock holmes ?  ??? ???


http://www.collectobil.com/catalogue/items/4501.htm
Title: Re: who named this klicky sherlock holmes ?
Post by: playmofire on September 07, 2010, 16:12:14
Presumably Playmobil as it is based on the internationally famous Victorian detective Sherlock Holmes who lived at 221B Baker Street in London (now the site of a branch of the Halifax bank).
Title: Re: who named this klicky sherlock holmes ?
Post by: playmo1989 on September 07, 2010, 16:20:19
Presumably Playmobil as it is based on the internationally famous Victorian detective Sherlock Holmes who lived at 221B Baker Street in London (now the site of a branch of the Halifax bank).


oh yes ? thanx gordon  ;) in the katalogs was named as sherlock holmes probably e??
Title: Re: who named this klicky sherlock holmes ?
Post by: Wolf Knight on September 07, 2010, 16:21:02
Presumably Playmobil as it is based on the internationally famous Victorian detective Sherlock Holmes who lived at 221B Baker Street in London (now the site of a branch of the Halifax bank).

Hold on, 211B Baker Street is not a Sherlock Holmes museum anymore?
Title: Re: who named this klicky sherlock holmes ?
Post by: playmofire on September 07, 2010, 18:48:43
Hold on, 211B Baker Street is not a Sherlock Holmes museum anymore?

Now, I never knew there was a museum at 221B Baker Street.  The only reference I have seen was in one of my books on Holmes and said that the Abbey National (NOT the Halifax, my mistake  :-[) had its head office at 221 Baker Street and employed someone to answer all the letters which were delivered there addressed to Sherlock Holmes.  Checking on Google, I see that the Abbey National HQ has been redeveloped as a block of luxury flats and that there is, indeed, a Sherlock Holmes museum at 221B.  Thanks for mentioning it Panos.   :wave:
Title: Re: who named this klicky sherlock holmes ?
Post by: Wolf Knight on September 07, 2010, 19:02:38
Oh good...

Glad I was siting on Shelrock's chair back then in 2003, and not to an executive bankers lounge...

(http://img37.imagefra.me/img/img37/7/9/7/baldthar/f_qcxoor18ohvm_f45f5d6.jpg) (http://imagefra.me/)
Title: Re: who named this klicky sherlock holmes ?
Post by: Sir Gareth on September 07, 2010, 19:09:44

who named this klicky sherlock holmes ?  ??? ???


http://www.collectobil.com/catalogue/items/4501.htm

Collectors probably.

The specials didn't make an appearance in the UK catalogues until 1995 and this set was just simply called "Detective" by 1996 it was no longer available.
Title: Re: who named this klicky sherlock holmes ?
Post by: Bolingbroke on September 07, 2010, 20:17:51
Is this the closest we ever got to a 'licence'?

(though the robin hood theme probably counts too).
Title: Re: who named this klicky sherlock holmes ?
Post by: playmo1989 on September 07, 2010, 21:29:41
Collectors probably.

The specials didn't make an appearance in the UK catalogues until 1995 and this set was just simply called "Detective" by 1996 it was no longer available.



 thanks for clearing it for me gary  ;)
Title: Re: who named this klicky sherlock holmes ?
Post by: playmo1989 on September 07, 2010, 21:30:55
Oh good...

Glad I was siting on Shelrock's chair back then in 2003, and not to an executive bankers lounge...

(http://img37.imagefra.me/img/img37/7/9/7/baldthar/f_qcxoor18ohvm_f45f5d6.jpg) (http://imagefra.me/)


what room is this? his house ? you're in the picture?
Title: Re: who named this klicky sherlock holmes ?
Post by: playmofire on September 07, 2010, 21:46:34
Collectors probably.

The specials didn't make an appearance in the UK catalogues until 1995 and this set was just simply called "Detective" by 1996 it was no longer available.

Thanks for the information, Gary.  Bart on Collectobil must have adopted the name Sherlock Holmes of his own accord, then.
Title: Re: who named this klicky sherlock holmes ?
Post by: Wolf Knight on September 07, 2010, 21:52:16


what room is this? his house ? you're in the picture?

Yeap!

This is the study, or small living room if you like, of the supposedly small appartment, or better put suit, that Sherlock Holmes and Dr Watson were occupying in 221B Baker Steet in London! As I can recall they had to renumber all the buildings in the street to make this appear as the place where the famous detective lived.
Title: Re: who named this klicky sherlock holmes ?
Post by: Martin Milner on September 07, 2010, 22:18:05
Yeap!

This is the study, or small living room if you like, of the supposedly small appartment, or better put suit, that Sherlock Holmes and Dr Watson were occupying in 221B Baker Steet in London! As I can recall they had to renumber all the buildings in the street to make this appear as the place where the famous detective lived.

No, they just changed the number on the museum building. It sits between 237 and 241, so should really be 239 Baker Street by the tradition of London street numbering.

The Museum is a fiction, just as the character of Sherlock Holmes is. He never lived, and there was never any 221b in Baker Street. The klicky is a fatbelly, and Sherlock Holmes was not fat in the stories, so attaching this moniker to the figure is suitably fictitious, which is what I though Alex might be getting at.

From the original stories, I think the museum's rooms are too far small, nicely appointed though they are, but the museum's creators were limited by which building was available and affordable. Until 2002 a branch of the Abbey National Building Society stood on the site of 221 Baker Street, but in 2002 they left and the site started redevelopment into an apartment block.

There is a far more likely house on which Conan Doyle based his stories further down on the other side of Baker Street, which you can see the facade anytime, and is noted in a self-guided Sherlock Holmes Walk that I did in the Summer of 2009 when I knew my time in London was limited.
Title: Re: who named this klicky sherlock holmes ?
Post by: Heronimus on September 08, 2010, 01:29:01
http://maps.google.com.hk/maps?hl=zh-TW&um=1&ie=UTF-8&q=211B+Baker+Street+london&fb=1&gl=hk&hnear=%E6%B2%B9%E5%B0%96%E6%97%BA%E5%8D%80&cid=0,0,7385271500256508456&ei=jeaGTOiuH4uqca6TnZ4I&sa=X&oi=local_result&ct=image&resnum=1&ved=0CAcQnwIwAA

this is the street view :wave:
Title: Re: who named this klicky sherlock holmes ?
Post by: Wolf Knight on September 08, 2010, 05:20:35
Thanks for the info Martin!! Oh how I'd love to walk in the streets of London again....
Title: Re: who named this klicky sherlock holmes ?
Post by: Justindo on September 08, 2010, 05:37:29
I didn't realize the Sherlock Holmes Special  :sherlock: was a fat klicky!  (I have one, but it's still in the box.)  That makes little sense. ???
Title: Re: who named this klicky sherlock holmes ?
Post by: Giorginetto on September 08, 2010, 08:15:18
I really like this klicky and have one permanently in my car !!!  It is one of the

Best Klickies in the World !!!!!!!!!!

:yippee: :welcome: :omg: :doh: :party: :builder: :sherlock: :chef: <:D :cheerlead: :banana: :hehe: :heart: :loco: :wow: :eh?: :evilplan: :hmm: ;D :D :( ??? O0 :party: :wow: :hissyfit: :-* :zz: :0 :pop: <:D :yippee: :lmao: :hatoff: :shhhh: :toot: :wall: :cowboy: :fireman: :cheerlead: :confetti: <:> :-* :hehe: :-X :zz: :eh?: :wow: :omg: :chef: :gent: :cham: :sherlock: :rainbow: :builder: :eh?: :clap: :)9 :glasses: :toot: :yippee: :welcome: :omg: :doh: :party: :builder: :sherlock: :chef:



                                                                                                               
Title: Re: who named this klicky sherlock holmes ?
Post by: playmo1989 on September 08, 2010, 16:37:42
No, they just changed the number on the museum building. It sits between 237 and 241, so should really be 239 Baker Street by the tradition of London street numbering.

The Museum is a fiction, just as the character of Sherlock Holmes is. He never lived, and there was never any 221b in Baker Street. The klicky is a fatbelly, and Sherlock Holmes was not fat in the stories, so attaching this moniker to the figure is suitably fictitious, which is what I though Alex might be getting at.

From the original stories, I think the museum's rooms are too far small, nicely appointed though they are, but the museum's creators were limited by which building was available and affordable. Until 2002 a branch of the Abbey National Building Society stood on the site of 221 Baker Street, but in 2002 they left and the site started redevelopment into an apartment block.

There is a far more likely house on which Conan Doyle based his stories further down on the other side of Baker Street, which you can see the facade anytime, and is noted in a self-guided Sherlock Holmes Walk that I did in the Summer of 2009 when I knew my time in London was limited.


thanks martin  ;)
Title: Re: who named this klicky sherlock holmes ?
Post by: Colonel Klicky on September 08, 2010, 17:11:59
I didn't realize the Sherlock Holmes Special  :sherlock: was a fat klicky!  (I have one, but it's still in the box.)  That makes little sense. ???

If you realize that this klicky never was designed or sold as "Sherlock Holmes" the felt lack of sense will vanish. When first shown in the (german) catalogue of 1994 it was just named "Detektiv" (engl. "detective"). Absolutely no connection with Sir Arthur Conan Doyle's famous literary character was proclaimed.

If it had been re-christened by someone more affiliated with american than british history for example, today the special would might be known as "Pinkerton". Also it might perhaps just all be the deerstalkers fault. ;)
Title: Re: who named this klicky sherlock holmes ?
Post by: playmofire on September 08, 2010, 19:09:40
I didn't realize the Sherlock Holmes Special  :sherlock: was a fat klicky!  (I have one, but it's still in the box.)  That makes little sense. ???

If it is a fat klicky, then it can't be Sherlock Holmes as he was tall and slim.

Ooops!  missed Martin's post on this.  However, I'm not sure I can agree with him that Sherlock Holmes was fictional!  ;D  But seriously he really is the true detective.  He handles all sorts of cases, not just murders as is the case with most (if not all other) fictional detectives and it is said that all the information needed to solve the crime is in the story.
Title: Re: who named this klicky sherlock holmes ?
Post by: tonguello on September 08, 2010, 19:55:58
I have this Special! is one of my favorites!!!
In the catalog it appears as 4501-A Detektiv. (1994)
As far as I know it was the first Special!  :sherlock:
 :wave:
Title: Re: who named this klicky sherlock holmes ?
Post by: skypurr on September 08, 2010, 22:20:26
I still haven't managed to get a complete 'Sherlock Holmes'  the ones I get are always missing the hat   :'( - does anyone know if it's available from ds?

Elaine (http://www.anchoredbygrace.com/smileys/mgqueen.gif)
Title: Re: who named this klicky sherlock holmes ?
Post by: Wolf Knight on September 09, 2010, 04:41:05
I still haven't managed to get a complete 'Sherlock Holmes'  the ones I get are always missing the hat   :'( - does anyone know if it's available from ds?

Elaine (http://www.anchoredbygrace.com/smileys/mgqueen.gif)

I have a spare hat Elaine!!! Want me to send it to you?
Title: Re: who named this klicky sherlock holmes ?
Post by: Martin Milner on September 09, 2010, 05:10:23
The inclusion of the Deerstalker hat of course is a pointer to this figure being based on Sherlock Holmes, though he was not fat an ddid not wear bushy sideburns.

A Deerstalker has always been a rare type of hat, and one of Holmes' affectations, though he only wore it when on cases in the countryside. When on London cases, he wore whatever was appropriate to the occasion, and of course he was a master of disguise so maybe all the other klickies look more like Sherlock busy on a case than this one!  :lol:
Title: Re: who named this klicky sherlock holmes ?
Post by: playmofire on September 09, 2010, 06:11:33
and of course he was a master of disguise so maybe all the other klickies look more like Sherlock busy on a case than this one!  :lol:

Nice one, Martin!   :lol: :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: who named this klicky sherlock holmes ?
Post by: Tiermann on September 09, 2010, 21:29:25
Actually I've thought that if you take the detective special and the Chimney sweep  (http://collectobil.com/catalogue/items/4617.htm) and switch their hats you have Holmes and Watson in the country. With the detective as Watson, which I think is a better fit.
Title: Re: who named this klicky sherlock holmes ?
Post by: Martin Milner on September 10, 2010, 01:36:35
Actually I've thought that if you take the detective special and the Chimney sweep  (http://collectobil.com/catalogue/items/4617.htm) and switch their hats you have Holmes and Watson in the country. With the detective as Watson, which I think is a better fit.

Watson wasn't fat either, until Nigel Bruce played him.  :(
Title: Re: who named this klicky sherlock holmes ?
Post by: tonguello on September 10, 2010, 12:24:08
Martin you seem to be an expert on Sherlock Holmes!!
You have the right info! :sherlock:
Title: Re: who named this klicky sherlock holmes ?
Post by: Giorginetto on September 10, 2010, 12:26:00
Actually I've thought that if you take the detective special and the Chimney sweep  (http://collectobil.com/catalogue/items/4617.htm) and switch their hats you have Holmes and Watson in the country. With the detective as Watson, which I think is a better fit.

Excellent, excellent idea... I need to start buying the victorians sets, i have so few of them and they do look awesome !!!! And a great idea this is , would make a fine picture with a 5300 in the background ..............
Title: Re: who named this klicky sherlock holmes ?
Post by: skypurr on September 10, 2010, 16:54:08
I have a spare hat Elaine!!! Want me to send it to you?
That would be great Panos.  I'll pm you some photos of shields and weapons that may be of use to you that I could trade.

Elaine (http://www.anchoredbygrace.com/smileys/mgqueen.gif)
Title: Re: who named this klicky sherlock holmes ?
Post by: Wolf Knight on September 10, 2010, 17:12:32
That would be great Panos.  I'll pm you some photos of shields and weapons that may be of use to you that I could trade.

Elaine (http://www.anchoredbygrace.com/smileys/mgqueen.gif)

Great  ;)
Title: Re: who named this klicky sherlock holmes ?
Post by: Gustavo on September 13, 2010, 04:18:06

who named this klicky sherlock holmes ?  ??? ???


http://www.collectobil.com/catalogue/items/4501.htm

(The hat it wears ...) :P

 :sherlock:

 :wave:

Gus
:blackhair:
Title: Re: who named this klicky sherlock holmes ?
Post by: playmovictorian on September 13, 2010, 22:36:38
Panos "Holmes" you look very convincing as a Detective  :wave:

I like the picture very much !

For those interested, there is a wonderful pub on Northumberland St in London called the Sherlock Holmes which has not only a great pub on the ground floor serving every beer imaginable but a perfectly recreated Sherlock Holmes lounges upstairs with the most amazing memorabilia and the meals are to die for  :love:

Here it is  :**: :

(http://img816.imageshack.us/img816/7743/thesherlockholmespub199.jpg) (http://img816.imageshack.us/i/thesherlockholmespub199.jpg/)

www.sherlockholmespub.com

And as an appetizer, here is their yummy Menu :

The Sherlock Holmes Public House and Restaurant serves a full a la carte menu plus a wide range of hot and cold bar food served all day. We sell a broad selection of traditional English ales and ciders, imported bottled lagers and fine wines, spirits and liqueurs. Additionally, we stock Sherlock Holmes souvenir memorabilia including glass and chinaware, t-shirts and authentic deerstalker hats as worn by master sleuth himself!

Prices and menus are available on request. Booking is advisable for the restaurant and can be made by telephone, fax or by e-mail.
STARTERS 
The Stockbroker’s Clerk £5.95
Juicy peeled prawns on a bed of crispy lettuce with a coating of marie rose sauce, served with buttered brown bread 
The Three Gables £5.95
Delicious slices of smoked salmon with a wedge of lemon, served with buttered brown bread 
A Case of Identity £4.75
Chicken liver pate served with a salad garnish and buttered toast 
The Illustrious Client (V) £3.95
Mouth-watering seasonal melon, served with fruits of the forest 
The Sign of Four £3.75
Chef’s homemade soup of the day, served with bread 
Abbey Grange (V) £3.50
Homemade bubble and squeak, with a salad garnish 
   
SIDE ORDERS 
Tomato and Onion Salad £3.25
Mixed Salad £2.95
Yorkshire Pudding £1.55
Coleslaw £1.75
Baked Beans £1.75
Battered Onion Rings £2.95
Basket of Bread £1.75
Garlic Bread £2.75
Mushy Peas £1.75
Selection of Seasonal Vegetables £2.95
Potatoes: New/Roast/Scalloped/Fried £2.45
   
MAIN COURSES 
Sherlock’s Own Favourite £14.95
8oz sirloin of beef, grilled to your choice, served with tomato, mushrooms,fries and garnish 
The Priory School £12.95
Deep-fried breaded wholetail scampi, served with fries and a salad garnish 
A Scandal in Bohemia £12.95
Breast of duck, served with a cranberry sauce, roast potatoes and vegetables 
Beryl Coronet £12.95
Poached fillet of Scottish salmon, served with hollandaise sauce, vegetables and new potatoes 
Gloria Scoot £10.75
Vegetarian version of Hounds of the Baskerville 
Thor Bridge £10.25
A succulent Aberdeen Angus burger topped with tomato and sliced gherkins served in a white bun with chips. 
With cheese & bacon £10.95
Sir Arthur Conan Doyle’s £10.95
Traditional roast topside of beef, served with Yorkshire pudding, roast potatoes and vegetables 
Charles Augustus Milverton £10.95
Roast loin of pork, served with apple sauce, roast potatoes and vegetables 
Mrs Hudson’s Steak and Mushroom in Ale Pie £10.95
Succulent pieces of steak cooked in a rich sauce flavoured with ale, served in a pie dish with a crusty pastry lid, with vegetables and new potatoes 
Mycroft's Favourite £12.95
Tender lamb shank with a hint of mint, served on a bed of mash potatoes and seasonal vegetables 
The Copper Beeches £10.95
Half roast chicken, served with sage and onion stuffing, vegetables and roast potatoes 
The Noble Bachelor £10.95
Medallions of chicken breast with scallion, carrot, sage and onion stuffing and a creamy mushroom sauce, served with fresh vegetables and scalloped potatoes 
The Retired Colourman’s £9.25
Traditional English fish (crispy battered haddock), served with chips and mushy peas 
Dr. Watson’s Favourite £9.25
Traditional Cumberland sausages, served with buttered mashed potatoes, onions and gravy 
Silver Blaze £8.95
Homemade bubble and squeak, topped with a fried egg, served with a medley of roasted vegetables 
Moriarty’s (V) £8.95
Grilled mushrooms stuffed with mature Cheddar and Stilton cheese, served with new potatoes and a mixed salad 
Inspector Lestrade’s Favourite £9.95
An individual homemade shepherds/cottage pie, served with vegetables 
Mary Sutherland’s Vegetable Pie £10.95
A selection of fresh vegetables and pulses, blended in a tasty sauce, served in a pie dish with a crusty pastry lid, and new potatoes 
Hounds of the Baskerville £10.25
 
Traditional toad (sausages) in the hole (Yorkshire pudding) served with buttered mash potatoes, gravy and vegetables 
   
DESSERTS 
Sticky Toffee Pudding with Ice Cream £4.95
Treacle Sponge Pudding with Custard £4.95
Spotted Dick with Custard £4.95
Chocolate Sponge Pudding with Custard £4.95
Apple Pie with Custard £4.95
Apple and Blackcurrant Crumble with Custard £4.95
Traditional Bread/Butter Pudding with Custard £4.95
Hot Cherries with Ice Cream £4.95
Cheese and Biscuits £4.95
Yorkshire Pudding with Ice Cream and Toffee Sauce £4.95
Selection of Ice Cream £4.95

 


Karim :)
Title: Re: who named this klicky sherlock holmes ?
Post by: Justindo on September 26, 2010, 08:24:49
While the Special may officially be called "Detective", the deerstalker, magnifying glass, and Big Ben on the box indicate that Sherlock Holmes was clearly the inspiration behind this set. :)  I'm still upset he's a fat and not a normal klicky. >:(