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General => Collector's Corner => Topic started by: Sir Gareth on August 15, 2010, 13:30:37
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Well, I finally got one, this is the first complete and in good condition Mountie I have come across in 9 years of ebaying.
It's a real shame Disney kicked up such a fuss about this figure and made Playmboil withdraw it from sale.
It never made it over here to the UK according to the catalogues, instead we just got the 3884 green park ranger which was basically the same set in content.
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Well, I finally got one, this is the first complete and in good condition Mountie I have come across in 9 years of ebaying.
nice review !! are you sure it's the first complete and in good condition at 9 years on ebay i 've come across one new one now :
http://cgi.ebay.ca/Playmobil-3827-Mounty-rot-NEU-OVP-MIB-w-/260636275332?pt=DE_Allesf%C3%BCrKind_Spielzeug_Playmobil
but it seems a bit high price .... on my collector's book first edition it doesen't have rarity system count it's just plain he forgot to put it or is there any other reason didn't know about how rare it is ??? ???
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Great buy, Sir Gareth! Why did Disney have a problem with him? ???
Joe
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Yes great find on a rarer item. I too am always on the look out but typically they sell for a premium.
I too want to know about the Disney debate. Was it when Walt was at the helm or the corporation ?
Rasputin "The Mad Monk"
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Great buy Sir Gareth!! I got mine for 9.99 last year!! It was a great joy!! I got him up on the shelve with my favourite klickies!!! I actually have both him and the green one!!!
Yes, what lawsuit was this with Disney? I thought the Canadian Police had issues with this, not Disney ??? ??? ???
@ Alex: I can understand collectability but this is ridiculous :o :o :o I know that, since the lawsuit followed, playmobil stopped producing mounties, so the seller is pointing on that! As for the rarity system....(having a look at third edition)....and yes I have it with me as I wanted to show it to my cousin... its three blue klickies...medium! So, not really worth the 60Euros I guess...but then again, it is mint in box...
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Hi playmo1989,
It's the first one that I have owned bought of ebay UK, I too have seen many others in the past on ebay but not actually had in my possesion.
The Disney story,
Well, if I remember correctly, Disney own the rights to the RCMP uniform any toy that doesn't get special permission from Disney breaches some copyright law.
I think Playmobil found this out the hard way after they had released the figure or something like that.
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Hi playmo1989,
It's the first one that I have owned bought of ebay UK, I too have seen many others in the past on ebay but not actually had in my possesion.
The Disney story,
Well, if I remember correctly, Disney own the rights to the RCMP uniform any toy that doesn't get special permission from Disney breaches some copyright law.
I think Playmobil found this out the hard way after they had released the figure or something like that.
oh i get it now :)
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So, not really worth the 60Euros I guess...but then again, it is mint in box...
+ 35 for shipping (why so high shipping for this ???) = 95 euros >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(
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. . . The Disney story,
Well, if I remember correctly, Disney own the rights to the RCMP uniform any toy that doesn't get special permission from Disney breaches some copyright law.
I think Playmobil found this out the hard way after they had released the figure or something like that.
That is really interesting, Gary! I never knew about the Disney angle. Your comments inspired me to do a little research and it appears that the Disney copyright license has expired and control of the mountie image is now back with Canada's RCMP (Royal Canadian Mounted Police.) Here are a couple of news links that tell the story:
Story from CBC's digital archive (http://archives.cbc.ca/economy_business/consumer_goods/clips/13485/)
Newer Story from CBC (http://www.cbc.ca/canada/story/1999/09/24/mounties990924.html)
Prehaps Playmobil will now approach the RCMP for permission to re-issue the mountie! :crossed:
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Thats a great looking Klickie :love:
Stupid Disney >:(
Damo :)
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That sounds like the typical Disney Company antics.
It would be great if Playmobil would re-issue this set, perhaps with the new-style horse.
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That sounds like the typical Disney Company antics.
It would be great if Playmobil would re-issue this set, perhaps with the new-style horse.
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Well lets not forget that when we point a finger there are always 3 pointing back at ourself. Geobra is a company that guards its trademarks quite well. If we were to use any of their images in a profit manner I am sure we would be getting a "cease and desist" order from Geobra's law department
I do not agree with it and all the copy rights but it is just the way it is, not the way we want it to be.
Perhaps now that Disney's rights are gone we should ask Geobra to reissue this set, with club powers <:>
Rasputin "The Mad Monk"
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That is really interesting, Gary! I never knew about the Disney angle. Your comments inspired me to do a little research and it appears that the Disney copyright license has expired and control of the mountie image is now back with Canada's RCMP (Royal Canadian Mounted Police.) Here are a couple of news links that tell the story:
Story from CBC's digital archive (http://archives.cbc.ca/economy_business/consumer_goods/clips/13485/)
Newer Story from CBC (http://www.cbc.ca/canada/story/1999/09/24/mounties990924.html)
Prehaps Playmobil will now approach the RCMP for permission to re-issue the mountie! :crossed:
Very interesting links Anne!
I hadn't realised that the Disney license expired nearly 10 years ago. Clearly there's more to Playmobil's reluctance to reissue this set, maybe just their reluctance to enter into licensing agreements with the RCMP directly.
They could easily re-use the parts in different figures and let collectors put them together if they so wished.
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Hello
Well lets not forget that when we point a finger there are always 3 pointing back at ourself. Geobra is a company that guards its trademarks quite well. If we were to use any of their images in a profit manner I am sure we would be getting a "cease and desist" order from Geobra's law department
I do not agree with it and all the copy rights but it is just the way it is, not the way we want it to be.
Perhaps now that Disney's rights are gone we should ask Geobra to reissue this set, with club powers <:>
Rasputin "The Mad Monk"
In Geobra's defense, I never would have thought a copyright on something like that uniform even existed! Now I'm wondering if the Roman legionary costume or the Union American Civil War uniform has a copyright! I'm all for patent and copyright laws on intellectual property and I could see if Geobra had made an unlicensed Mickey Mouse klicky, but making an item of historical clothing "intellectual property" is a bit of a stretch here, in my opinion. In addition to Disney's rapaciousness, I suppose I also have a problem with the RCMP even applying for a copyright and those who granted such a copyright. Frankly, I'm surprised Disney hasn't sued Playmobil for producing its Magic Castle theme, as I'm sure Disney thinks it infringes upon the "Magic Castle" copyright, which they no doubt have. The owners of Neuschwanstein should sue Disney! ::)
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In Geobra's defense, I never would have thought a copyright on something like that uniform even existed! Now I'm wondering if the Roman legionary costume or the Union American Civil War uniform has a copyright! I'm all for patent and copyright laws on intellectual property and I could see if Geobra had made an unlicensed Mickey Mouse klicky, but making an item of historical clothing "intellectual property" is a bit of a stretch here, in my opinion. In addition to Disney's rapaciousness, I suppose I also have a problem with the RCMP even applying for a copyright and those who granted such a copyright. Frankly, I'm surprised Disney hasn't sued Playmobil for producing its Magic Castle theme, as I'm sure Disney thinks it infringes upon the "Magic Castle" copyright, which they no doubt have. The owners of Neuschwanstein should sue Disney! ::)
Hardly historical clothing, Justin, the RCMP still wear this uniform! That's why they got fed up with people trading in on their image.
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. . . They could easily re-use the parts in different figures and let collectors put them together if they so wished.
That is a brilliant idea! :love:
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Hardly historical clothing, Justin, the RCMP still wear this uniform! That's why they got fed up with people trading in on their image.
Yes, but does a copyright exist on the uniforms represented in Playmobil's police and firemen klickies or the Royal Guard Special? These are all currently worn as well.
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Yes, but does a copyright exist on the uniforms represented in Playmobil's police and firemen klickies or the Royal Guard Special? These are all currently worn as well.
Since no lawsuit has benn learned to take place, I guess it doesn't!
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Yes Justin it is crazy and out of balance as in the example of "Happy Birthday To You"
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Happy_Birthday_to_You)
Rasputin "The Mad Monk"
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Great find, sir Gareth. Congratulations!
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Yes, but does a copyright exist on the uniforms represented in Playmobil's police and firemen klickies or the Royal Guard Special? These are all currently worn as well.
I think the Police and Fireman uniforms are not distinct enough to pin down to one particular source, or indeed one country.
The Royal Guard might tread on a few toes as it's pretty obvious it's one of the five Royal Foot Guards Regiments, most likely the 1st Battalion Grenadier Guards. I don't know if the uniform has been copyrighted, but the guard was only out for a very short time, so maybe there was a legal issue.
Personally I think Playmobil SHOULD enter into some form of license or other agreement with such entities, and produce figures which could be sold as better quality souvenirs than the usual tat you will find on the streets of London. It still takes just one klicky to start a collection, and the more channels Playmobil explore to sell that first klicky the better.
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Very good purchase with nice pictures~~~~ I love his look, no wonder its licence was bought. :wave:
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IPersonally I think Playmobil SHOULD enter into some form of license or other agreement with such entities, and produce figures which could be sold as better quality souvenirs than the usual tat you will find on the streets of London. It still takes just one klicky to start a collection, and the more channels Playmobil explore to sell that first klicky the better.
100% AGREE!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Yes Justin it is crazy and out of balance as in the example of "Happy Birthday To You"
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Happy_Birthday_to_You)
Rasputin "The Mad Monk"
Indeed, that is another crazy case, Rasputin!
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Personally I think Playmobil SHOULD enter into some form of license or other agreement with such entities, and produce figures which could be sold as better quality souvenirs than the usual tat you will find on the streets of London. It still takes just one klicky to start a collection, and the more channels Playmobil explore to sell that first klicky the better.
I strongly agree with this too, Martin. As you've advocated before, putting klickies in various museums would be a very smart business move for Geobra.