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Title: Old-type horses with coloured mane & tails (keeping up with changing times)
Post by: cheng on August 12, 2010, 06:00:13
I was digging for some non-war customs, so here's a custom I did years back (before I had any of those new 'coloured' playmo horses  :P)
ummm...non-war I assure you  ;D these are work horses at the EKKA Fair in Surfers Paradise Qld, for the joisting show  :lol:
Title: Re: Old-type horses with coloured mane & tails (keeping up with changing times)
Post by: Wolf Knight on August 12, 2010, 06:07:12
Oh wow cheng!!! this are brilliantly done!!! Very well done!!! A really nice touch of detail!!!  :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:
Title: Re: Old-type horses with coloured mane & tails (keeping up with changing times)
Post by: cheng on August 12, 2010, 06:08:43
its no big deal now that we are going to have 3rd generation playmo-horses in 2011  :P but i know there are still many collectors out there like me who grew up with these 'rocking-horse' type of horses  ;)

but I dont think its appropriate for PF's "How To" section because now "nobody wants to" :P

but I was pleased as punch with myself when I sprayed them years back, now its too elementary for most of us now  ;D
Title: Re: Old-type horses with coloured mane & tails (keeping up with changing times)
Post by: cheng on August 12, 2010, 06:12:36
thanks Wolf knight! our mails crossed  ;D I really didnt get much interest from our fellow customisers back then....I didnt think I'd have a die-hard fan... :wave:
Title: Re: Old-type horses with coloured mane & tails (keeping up with changing times)
Post by: Wolf Knight on August 12, 2010, 06:16:26
Usually the little simple touches make the difference cheng!!! I love this little simple touches of yours!
Title: Re: Old-type horses with coloured mane & tails (keeping up with changing times)
Post by: Gis on August 12, 2010, 06:18:04
Well cheng, the thing is, even though there might be new horses, us medieval types are still stuck with using the old horses for some things.

Many of the horse coats are only produced for the old style horse, so for me personally it is a great pleasure to see that these horses can be brought to life by using your technics.

Thank you very much for sharing!
Title: Re: Old-type horses with coloured mane & tails (keeping up with changing times)
Post by: playmofire on August 12, 2010, 06:24:41
I agree with Wolf Knight and Gis, cheng, it's the simple touches which can so often make the job outstanding and here the addition of coloured mane and tail are great touches.

Thanks, too, for the "how-to".  There are always people new to custom work, even long term collectors, who will find information like this useful.

Wy only "non-war" customs by the way?  We have a fairly bloodthirsty mediaeval and Viking lot here you know.
Title: Re: Old-type horses with coloured mane & tails (keeping up with changing times)
Post by: cheng on August 12, 2010, 07:18:09
thanks  :D guys!
blood thirsty members allowed here?! I should have joined PF earlier ;D
and I like the discussions here  :love:
Title: Re: Old-type horses with coloured mane & tails (keeping up with changing times)
Post by: Wolf Knight on August 12, 2010, 07:55:10
Well cheng, the thing is, even though there might be new horses, us medieval types are still stuck with using the old horses for some things.

Many of the horse coats are only produced for the old style horse, so for me personally it is a great pleasure to see that these horses can be brought to life by using your technics.

Thank you very much for sharing!

I'll agree with you Gis!!! All the great horse coats are the ones that suit old horses!!!
Title: Re: Old-type horses with coloured mane & tails (keeping up with changing times)
Post by: Gis on August 12, 2010, 07:57:42
We have a fairly bloodthirsty mediaeval and Viking lot here you know.

GROWL!!!
Title: Re: Old-type horses with coloured mane & tails (keeping up with changing times)
Post by: Gis on August 12, 2010, 07:58:48
I'll agree with you Gis!!! All the great horse coats are the ones that suit old horses!!!

I am picking up my 3030 today  :yippee: :yippee: :yippee: so yeah totally agree although the ones from the new Falkon riders do look great!
Title: Re: Old-type horses with coloured mane & tails (keeping up with changing times)
Post by: Wolf Knight on August 12, 2010, 08:12:29
I just received four of these 7045 - Jousting Equipment (http://playmodb.org/cgi-bin/showinv.pl?setnum=7045) Still, some of the newer coats are great too!

Title: Re: Old-type horses with coloured mane & tails (keeping up with changing times)
Post by: cheng on August 12, 2010, 09:27:52
yes Gis...the 3030 is a real good buy  ;)
and WOlf Knight...4 sets??  :o

pardon my ignorance in medieval history....I thought these horse dresses are unique for each knight so I sprayed 3 different ones in those days when none had any printing on them  :P
...you lucky fellas you  :D
Title: Re: Old-type horses with coloured mane & tails (keeping up with changing times)
Post by: Wolf Knight on August 12, 2010, 09:48:07
yes Gis...the 3030 is a real good buy  ;)
and WOlf Knight...4 sets??  :o

pardon my ignorance in medieval history....I thought these horse dresses are unique for each knight so I sprayed 3 different ones in those days when none had any printing on them  :P
...you lucky fellas you  :D

Well I need ovear all ten each for my knight groups.... Although you are right, each knight, appart form his coat of arms, had a unique dress on his horse, unless more than one knight were members of the same group, household, or faction!
Title: Re: Old-type horses with coloured mane & tails (keeping up with changing times)
Post by: flatcat on August 12, 2010, 10:55:43
They look really good, Cheng!

Damo :)
Title: Re: Old-type horses with coloured mane & tails (keeping up with changing times)
Post by: basilsdad on August 12, 2010, 11:00:27
I agree with Wolf Knight and Gis, cheng, it's the simple touches which can so often make the job outstanding and here the addition of coloured mane and tail are great touches.

Thanks, too, for the "how-to".  There are always people new to custom work, even long term collectors, who will find information like this useful.

Ditto!  That is one of the pleasures of customizing, making it your own and you have certainly done that.  great job!
Joe
Title: Re: Old-type horses with coloured mane & tails (keeping up with changing times)
Post by: Ali Baba on August 12, 2010, 22:38:54
Again, I love these customs. I have nothing against the original type horses. I think they look fine. Even better when custimised this way, of course.
Title: Re: Old-type horses with coloured mane & tails (keeping up with changing times)
Post by: Justindo on August 14, 2010, 06:53:47
Those are amazing custom paint jobs, Cheng! :)9
Title: Re: Old-type horses with coloured mane & tails (keeping up with changing times)
Post by: playmo1989 on August 14, 2010, 15:28:36
looks very good Cheng! ;)  the white horse with the blond ponytail reminds me the horse from lucky louk   http://www.zeitbandit.screensaver4you.de/media/img/lucky/lucky_jolly.jpg
Title: Re: Old-type horses with coloured mane & tails (keeping up with changing times)
Post by: cheng on August 16, 2010, 02:17:31
thanks everyone!

and playmo1989;
...  the white horse with the blond ponytail reminds me the horse from lucky louk 

thanks for showing me this....Ive never seen this comic strip...but I did do some research before spraying blonde horses...there are blonde horses, so I was told.
Title: Re: Old-type horses with coloured mane & tails (keeping up with changing times)
Post by: Bill Blackhurst on August 16, 2010, 13:04:58


but I did do some research before spraying blonde horses...there are blonde horses, so I was told.

The Palomino breed horses are caramel colored with blonde manes, & tails.
Title: Re: Old-type horses with coloured mane & tails (keeping up with changing times)
Post by: WarriorOfToys on August 16, 2010, 15:53:04
Only Knights who owned land (and there for people) had symbols.
If you were a regular Infantry soldier, like a peasant, you would wear your lord's symbol on your tunic.
That way in the middle of battle if you lost the part of the army you were supposed to be in
You could look at your chest see the symbol and look for the flag with the same symbol. :)

If you were a knight, but only lived in your lord's household and didn't own any land
Then you would wear his symbol or "device".

They had these devices because many could not read, even knights and nobles.

This system of devices intertwines greatly with the feudal system,
And where knights fit in with the feudal system.
I have found a great book which explains in detail the feudal system,
Why it was created, and the things a couple people don't realize about it.

It is called Medieval Knights by Trevor Cairns, for those interested... ;)
Title: Re: Old-type horses with coloured mane & tails (keeping up with changing times)
Post by: cheng on August 17, 2010, 01:16:46
thanks for your kind explanation WOT....i did think along those lines but I forgot that they could be illiterate   :D
....hmmm...I wondor if those Qing soldiers and ashigarus I made could read  :P
..of course the other purpose for also wearing symbols on their backs is so that they dont get shot by their own archers  ;D
Title: Re: Old-type horses with coloured mane & tails (keeping up with changing times)
Post by: Wesley Myers on August 19, 2010, 05:33:37
They really look great!  Makes the old 'rocking horse' style horses usable (instead of just hiding them under barding).



As for the literacy in the middle ages, modern scholars have largely disproved many of the fallacies left over from Victorian times.  The "dark ages" were not so dark as we have commonly be misled to believe.
Title: Re: Old-type horses with coloured mane & tails (keeping up with changing times)
Post by: WarriorOfToys on August 19, 2010, 12:51:53
thanks for your kind explanation WOT....i did think along those lines but I forgot that they could be illiterate   :D
....hmmm...I wondor if those Qing soldiers and ashigarus I made could read  :P
..of course the other purpose for also wearing symbols on their backs is so that they dont get shot by their own archers  ;D

I am not sure about Chinese,
But this is the reason for the Japanese Samurai wearing the large flags on their backs
And symbols from the flags on their armor.
Title: Re: Old-type horses with coloured mane & tails (keeping up with changing times)
Post by: Wolf Knight on August 19, 2010, 17:12:06
I am not sure about Chinese,
But this is the reason for the Japanese Samurai wearing the large flags on their backs
And symbols from the flags on their armor.

Weren't they also used so that leaders could see from a distance who is winning and who is loosing a battle? Meaning how many flags were still up and high....and how many flags had fallen.
Title: Re: Old-type horses with coloured mane & tails (keeping up with changing times)
Post by: cheng on August 20, 2010, 02:11:40
I am not sure about Chinese,
But this is the reason for the Japanese Samurai wearing the large flags on their backs
And symbols from the flags on their armor.

hey WOT...dont start the 3rd Sino-Japoanese war!  :lol:
(perhaps the Chinese were 'civilised' much earlier but I wouldnt want to take on any historian amongst us  :P)
Title: Re: Old-type horses with coloured mane & tails (keeping up with changing times)
Post by: cheng on August 20, 2010, 02:20:39
......Meaning how many flags were still up and high....and how many flags had fallen.

sounds like a kind of field survey  :lol: or popularity contest or game show  ;D

yes...I'm in awe when I see so many ashigaru carrying flags on their backs...wont the wind catch them sometimes when they are just about to stick their spears...and what if the enemy suddenly put up a 6 foot high rope  >:D
wont they run/fight better without having a pole tied to their backs?
...I wish I can ask these and more in one of those military forums  :)
...does anybody here knows?
(where are you, Tim?!)
 
Title: Re: Old-type horses with coloured mane & tails (keeping up with changing times)
Post by: WarriorOfToys on August 20, 2010, 12:51:42
sounds like a kind of field survey  :lol: or popularity contest or game show  ;D

yes...I'm in awe when I see so many ashigaru carrying flags on their backs...wont the wind catch them sometimes when they are just about to stick their spears...and what if the enemy suddenly put up a 6 foot high rope  >:D
wont they run/fight better without having a pole tied to their backs?
...I wish I can ask these and more in one of those military forums  :)
...does anybody here knows?
(where are you, Tim?!)
 

Then again Cheng, sticking a 6 foot rope above them would have been hard to do...
And would have been against the warrior's code as it would classify as a trick!

Of course the Samurai would not break that code so... :)

Fighting may not really have been any harder,
You are already carrying about 60 pounds of armor,
A couple more hardly seem to matter in battle. (Trust me... ;) )
Plus, it could only have weighed 1 or 2 pounds if it were bamboo or a very light wood.

And it is not really in the way for fighting,
So I doubt it would have actually made much of a difference. ???