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General => News => Topic started by: playmo1989 on June 23, 2010, 18:39:34
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from what i know only the 3550 ship sails are from fabrick all the other ship sails , carpets ,tents are plastick this is correct or wrong??
the curtines of the 5300-5305 houses are from cotton? but i wouldn't call it fabrick
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The 3940 sails are fabric as are the sails of the schooner and other ships based on it.
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The 3940 sails are fabric as are the sails of the schooner and other ships based on it.
they are?? and the 3750 too? i remember i ironed the 3940 sails and they smelled burned plastick so i stopped ironing them so some carpets as well
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they are?? and the 3750 too? i remember i ironed the 3940 sails and they smelled burned plastick so i stopped ironing them so some carpets as well
I seem to remember they were, and certainly the schooner and corsair vessels have fabric.
Cachalote is the man who knows.
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I seem to remember they were, and certainly the schooner and corsair vessels have fabric.
Cachalote is the man who knows.
what do i say i don't know the schooner you mean 3940-3055 ,which are the corsair vessels?? they might have plastick in them as well,where have you heard that they were fabric?
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what do i say i don't know the schooner you mean 3940-3055 ,which are the corsair vessels?? they might have plastick in them as well,where have you heard that they were fabric?
I have owned them.
For the pirate ships, including the corsairs, see here:
http://www.playmofriends.com/forum/index.php?topic=4639.0
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i have them too !!
perhaps if i'am not mistaken the 3860 is from the same material with the house 5300 curtines but a little thicker the others have plastick surely because they smelled burned plastic when i ironed them
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i have them too !!
perhaps if i'am not mistaken the 3860 is from the same material with the house 5300 curtines but a little thicker the others have plastick surely because they smelled burned plastic when i ironed them
Maybe the 3940 has some plastic or similar (e.g. nylon) in the sails. However, the corsairs and schooner are fabric. See here:
http://www.playmofriends.com/forum/index.php?topic=4851.0
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Having made sails of the same weight and feel as the corsair sails, the material I used had a sort of rubbery backing that bonded it together, so maybe the sails are bonded together in some way so they feel like fabric, but because of what is used in the process it would smell if the iron was too hot.
(Does this make sense?)
I think the curtains from the mansion are made of a type of felt.
Elaine
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Having made sails of the same weight and feel as the corsair sails, the material I used had a sort of rubbery backing that bonded it together, so maybe the sails are bonded together in some way so they feel like fabric, but because of what is used in the process it would smell if the iron was too hot.
(Does this make sense?)
I think the curtains from the mansion are made of a type of felt.
Elaine
The sails for the corsair felt like felt to me, Elaine, and single thickness.
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what do you think about the carpets??
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I know of other things Playmobil has made with the sail fabric.
The roman tent was made using the fabric.
And all the sails that I have seen
(except for the red pirate ship whose sails were "bundles")
Were made with the fabric.
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WarriorOfToys' experience is the same as mine. Also, all carpets I've seen are fabric. The Viking tent is, however, plastic.
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WarriorOfToys' experience is the same as mine. Also, all carpets I've seen are fabric. The Viking tent is, however, plastic.
I have one of those... Half of one. :lol:
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so if all of these are fabrick i guess in the fabrick must have some plastick because it smelled when ironong it!!!!
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Probably, as they are very tear resistant. :yup:
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We may have some confusion because of language differences. :)
Within the context of this discussion, the word "fabric" means (in English): "a material that resembles cloth."
The word "cloth" means: "a pliable material made usually by weaving, felting, or knitting natural or synthetic fibers and filaments." (from Merriam Webster's online dictionary)
Different types of cloth (woven, felt, knitted) can all be made of many different things such as cotton, wool, linen, silk, and even plastic, in fact, recycled plastic bottles are often used to make plush and velour type fabrics used in clothing.
All of the sails, tents, carpets, etc. are, by definition, made of cloth (fabric.) We don't know what the content of the fabric is, but I believe that much of the Playmobil cloth has at least some plastic content.
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thanks indianna
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:) all pirate ship sails are made from the same material - with 3 exceptions.
the material is something between cardboard, felt and rubber foam - no doubt a sinthetic formula :hmm: - and they have no visible threads.
the exceptions are the 3550 piratenschiff in all its versions where the material is a visible cloth (the threads are clearly visible) with some kind of impregnated reinforcement that gives it an extra stifness and a very slight superficial "shine".
in these sails the holes where the blocks are attached have extra white plastic flat rings glued on the fabric (i guess this is done to prevent the tearing of the fabric).
another exception is the 13570 antex argentinian set - a hybrid between the 3750 and the 3550 versions - that mounts the same fabric sails, just like the ones described above.
the final exception is the 4424 piratenkaperschiff with all its sails (both folded and unfolded) made from a hard plastic.
the result is - in my humble opinion - the worst ship playmobil ever made.
hans beck apparently thought that the 3750 was the best playmobil set ever made.
i tend to agree with him although the big 3940 sometimes takes its place in my heart. :love:
:lens: all of these ships can be seen in the thread "all the pirate ships playmobil ever made", as playmofire suggests - http://www.playmofriends.com/forum/index.php?topic=4639.msg60782#msg60782.
it's great to see that this thread can actually help in some matters. ;)
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Talking about cloth/fabric can be confusing when it is called by different names in different countries. In the US, the cloth that is used for the ships' sails is very similar to nonfusible Pellon® interfacing that is used to give stability to collars and cuffs of clothing. In the US, it can be purchased in different weights and the cloth for the sails feels almost exactly like heavyweight Pellon®.
I've been experimenting with printing on Pellon® using my inkjet printer and hints from AliBaba. (but, that is the subject of a different thread! http://www.playmofriends.com/forum/index.php?topic=4851.0)
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Talking about cloth/fabric can be confusing when it is called by different names in different countries. In the US, the cloth that is used for the ships' sails is very similar to nonfusible Pellon® interfacing that is used to give stability to collars and cuffs of clothing. In the US, it can be purchased in different weights and the cloth for the sails feels almost exactly like heavyweight Pellon®.
It is interfacing I have experimented with over here in the UK, although I don't think it had any brand name - I just bought interfacing off a roll.
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One type in the UK is called 'Vilene'
This is usually on a roll and can be either iron on or non-iron; this is usually thicker, but both kinds can be bought in different weights.
It usually comes in black (more dark grey really) or white.
(Before the boys were born and I had time ::) I used to make some of my own clothes! :))
This material is very much like that used for the schooner and corsair sails and I always thought it was the same for the tent/stall awning pieces, although looking at my circus horse tent, the back of that does feel a bit more rubbery. ???
Elaine
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The very first pirate ship i bought in 1983 or something had the best sails, they are still as good as knew and though they might not have any imprints or colour , they look and feel very realisitc . The best !!!!!!!!!!!!
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:) all pirate ship sails are made from the same material - with 3 exceptions.
the material is something between cardboard, felt and rubber foam - no doubt a sinthetic formula :hmm: - and they have no visible threads.
the exceptions are the 3550 piratenschiff in all its versions where the material is a visible cloth (the threads are clearly visible) with some kind of impregnated reinforcement that gives it an extra stifness and a very slight superficial "shine".
in these sails the holes where the blocks are attached have extra white plastic flat rings glued on the fabric (i guess this is done to prevent the tearing of the fabric).
another exception is the 13570 antex argentinian set - a hybrid between the 3750 and the 3550 versions - that mounts the same fabric sails, just like the ones described above.
the final exception is the 4424 piratenkaperschiff with all its sails (both folded and unfolded) made from a hard plastic.
the result is - in my humble opinion - the worst ship playmobil ever made.
hans beck apparently thought that the 3750 was the best playmobil set ever made.
i tend to agree with him although the big 3940 sometimes takes its place in my heart. :love:
:lens: all of these ships can be seen in the thread "all the pirate ships playmobil ever made", as playmofire suggests - http://www.playmofriends.com/forum/index.php?topic=4639.msg60782#msg60782.
it's great to see that this thread can actually help in some matters. ;)
thank you cachalote for all these helpfull information .
really hans beck said 3750 is the best set? or 3550
i think that 5778 http://www.dunnstoyandhobby.com/v/vspfiles/photos/PLA5778-2.jpg
is a worst ship than 4424
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thank you cachalote for all these helpfull information .
really hans beck said 3750 is the best set? or 3550
i think that 5778 http://www.dunnstoyandhobby.com/v/vspfiles/photos/PLA5778-2.jpg
is a worst ship than 4424
They are identical, except for the sails and sail supports, and the colour. 5778 is the same shape as 3053/3750, too.
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They are identical, except for the sails and sail supports, and the colour. 5778 is the same shape as 3053/3750, too.
yes i know that but every ship is different 3750 and 3550 are more common because they are the same colour. these other two 5778 and 4424 with totally different colours and sails are different even if the shape is the same ;)