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General => Collector's Corner => Topic started by: playmo1989 on April 10, 2010, 18:26:45
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from an another topic i wanted to open a discusion about the ds products
so we have been deceived from ebay sellers that sell the victorian sets "new in plastick bags" for being originall and they are from the ds catalogue ??and we pay 70$ for a set witch is supposed to be rare!!!
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from an another topic i wanted to open a discusion about the ds products
so we have been deceived from ebay sellers that sell the victorian sets "new in plastick bags" for being originall and they are from the ds catalogue ??and we pay 70$ for a set witch is supposed to be rare!!!
Well, actually, original DS sets in original sealed plastic bags in fact are new and original ::).
There is a thin (moral?) line to advertise them as being "rare", though... :hmm:
I think, this is why it is cool to have a collectors forum like playmofriends.
Here you get to know, whenever a former "rare" set is rereleased in DS or new set and is about to flood the market. Sometimes when I sold sets at eBay they ended in surprisingly high prices, typically offered by foreign bidders. It still might be worth this price for them, or hard to get in other countries.
I remember the medival goody special sets from greece to ascent to nasty prices at german ebay, even though these were simple give-aways from a fast food restaurant. ;)
That's what collecting is all about. You have to know your sets and find your bargains... 8}
best,
socrates
P.S.: Hope, I hit your point?! ???
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Alexi the sets from DS are indeed baged. some might be in boxes yes, but only the more recent and discontinued ones.
I agree with socrates. A seller on ebay might put a logical starting price/bit on one such item. But if the buyer, especially a foreign one, needs this set desperately and offer a lot more than the starting bid the itme will get moe expensive...
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i remember that seller too who sold the klickys from a fast food restaurant in very high prices.the buyers think that the item is original ,that's why they bid so high although the seller should mention that it is from ds as socrates said is how moral is the seller where can we refer to to buy ds?
in the ds come the klickys from the seventies with the not movable hands?
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i remember that seller too who sold the klickys from a fast food restaurant in very high prices.the buyers think that the item is original ,that's why they bid so high although the seller should mention that it is from ds as socrates said is how moral is the seller where can we refer to to buy ds?
The item is original. Socrates is questioning the description "rare. What is common in one country may be rare in another, but eBay sellers may use the word "rare" just to try and increase interest in the item and, as Socrates says this is morally questionable. Bidders should try to check whether the item is rare or not, but in the end, it is the bidders who decide the final selling price.
in the ds come the klickys from the seventies with the not movable hands?
Klickies from DS are the modern style with movable hands, even where they are reproductions of early figures.
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they use the old flat pants or the new inflated pants?? http://www.16bit.com/toypics/playmobil/4531-mummy/front-full.jpg
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/197/518291130_ecd4fa0b84.jpg
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If the original figures had "flat" pants, then the DS re-issue has "flat" pants, and similarly with other designs of trousers.
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If the original figures had "flat" pants, then the DS re-issue has "flat" pants, and similarly with other designs of trousers.
true, the molds are the same. They just use it for reissuing...
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do you undestand what is the flat pants?
i'am asking because i bought several new figures from the katalogue with the extra sets that were making the old figures but with the new swollen pants!!
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do you undestand what is the flat pants?
i'am asking because i bought several new figures from the katalogue with the extra sets that were making the old figures but with the new swollen pants!!
You're going to have to explain or illustrate better what you are talking about. Both figures you put links to have the same leg style. The second has clip-on boot cuffs, but underneath the same leg style.
I don't see a problem with people selling off DS items as new if they are new. Caveat Emptor in all eBay cases. If the seller isn't saying it's an original set bought many years ago, don't assume it is.
For collectors who want rare figures and sets, Fast food special sets can be very "rare". Most of us here are collecting not for rarety but for the love of the object itself. If you have two beautiful matching vases and smash one, has the other one somehow become more beautiful and desireable?
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:wave:
Regarding "rare" sets on eBay..... If the seller does not provide a picture of the actual item you are bidding on be VERY careful. There are a truckload of people selling "NIP" [new in package] sets - especially in the Victorian theme. How a person can have 10 Victorian kitchens that are "NIP" without boxes is a mystery to me.... :hmm: I have researched certain sellers and know that they are somehow repackaging loose bits and calling them new. It's amazing to me that people pay as much as they do for some items ???
I have sold sets that were purchased as add-ons and packaged in bags. I always show a pic of the actual item and make it very clear in the description that the item is bagged and new. An example is the Medieval house - 7109. I recently sold one on eBay and provided pics of the item as well as the actual Playmobil product number.
All I can say is WATCH OUT!!!
Rey
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i know martin i'am dealing with details but these make the difference,i'am not refering to the down part of the legs but on the top try these again i hope you will see what i'am talking about
flat: http://cgi.ebay.com/PLAYMOBIL-SPACE-ASTRONAUT-FIGURE-ACCESS-LOT_W0QQitemZ350336971659QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item5191b5f38b
inflated : http://www.16bit.com/toypics/playmobil/4531-mummy/front-full.jpg
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Alexi the astraunauts are wearing boots. They have the same feet as the gold klicky (its a mummy actually) and the boots are accessories to add on them. So its the same...
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Alexi the astraunauts are wearing boots. They have the same feet as the gold klicky (its a mummy actually) and the boots are accessories to add on them. So its the same...
I thought he was referring to the top of the lower body, the top of the trousers. On the astronauts this is flat but on the mummy figure it is curved (inflated). This is a distinction between the old and new figures, but when Playmobil re-issued, for example, the old, small fire ladder truck, the figures issued with it were as per the originals - flat at the top of the trousers.
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I thought he was referring to the top of the lower body, the top of the trousers. On the astronauts this is flat but on the mummy figure it is curved (inflated). This is a distinction between the old and new figures, but when Playmobil re-issued, for example, the old, small fire ladder truck, the figures issued with it were as per the originals - flat at the top of the trousers.
exactly someone saw it :wow: :wow: !!
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I thought he was referring to the top of the lower body, the top of the trousers. On the astronauts this is flat but on the mummy figure it is curved (inflated). This is a distinction between the old and new figures, but when Playmobil re-issued, for example, the old, small fire ladder truck, the figures issued with it were as per the originals - flat at the top of the trousers.
Ohhh ok I've never noticed this before!!! Good to know!!!! ;)
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:wave:
One can pretty much tell whether the item is "new" or "vintage" by looking at the butts. I took a bunch of pics and have them in an album on Photobucket for anyone who is interested...
http://s990.photobucket.com/albums/af28/giwedorann/butts/ (http://s990.photobucket.com/albums/af28/giwedorann/butts/)
I do not know for sure if "reproductions" carry the same markings as the originals but I highly doubt it... The newer klickys have little squares on their butts or no marking at all:
(http://i990.photobucket.com/albums/af28/giwedorann/butts/DSCN1456.jpg)
Older klickys have circles or letters and numbers:
(http://i990.photobucket.com/albums/af28/giwedorann/butts/DSCN1445.jpg)
Perhaps some of our experts :wow: could offer more insight.
Rey
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Good work Rey!!! Thank you for the link!!!
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I do not know for sure if "reproductions" carry the same markings as the originals but I highly doubt it... The newer klickys have little squares on their butts or no marking at all:
(http://i990.photobucket.com/albums/af28/giwedorann/butts/DSCN1456.jpg)
Older klickys have circles or letters and numbers:
(http://i990.photobucket.com/albums/af28/giwedorann/butts/DSCN1445.jpg)
Perhaps some of our experts :wow: could offer more insight.
Rey
But I think that the re-issued figures use original moulds. I'll see if I have any of the re-issued blue firemen still.
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But I think that the re-issued figures use original moulds. I'll see if I have any of the re-issued blue firemen still.
Cetrainly worth look into Gordon....i'll have a look at my classic edition re-issued klickies.... (again at my parents house.....hate keep my collection split up like that.... >:( >:( >:()