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General => Report & Review => Topic started by: playmofire on August 29, 2009, 20:37:34
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A short time ago on klickywelt.de I came across part numbers for some of the new fire brigade equipment. As I was especially interested in the new rescue gear I put these on my next DS order and here is the result.
The first photo shows the parts which make up the new rescue gear. Part numbers are as follows:
A: 30 20 1462 connecting handle
B: 30 20 1452 winding drum
C: 30 20 1442 frame
D: 30 08 1440 motor unit
E: 30 89 3852 hydraulic tubing (actually the same as the electric fence wire)
F: 30 20 1472 equipment handle - two of these are needed
G spreader and H cutter: 30 51 6880 - these come as a pair
All parts were available apart from the motor, but I had already worked out that this was the same as the motor from the paintsprayer compressor and had one I could use temporarily.
The "hydraulic tubing" is slotted into the connecting handle through a slot in the side and then out the end, after first tying a knot in the end of the string not being slotted through. The know then stops the string slipping out of the handle. The string for this is two strands wound together and then sealed at each end. If you cut the string, it immediately comes unwound but the ends can be sealed again by heat. The free end of the "tubing" is then slotted through a hole in then winding drum and out through a slot on the other side where is is knotted at the end to stop it slipping out.
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The final picture showing the connection of the "hydraulic tubing" and then one of the assembled motor unit followed by the motor unit with the rescue gear. Lastly, the motor unit with the cutting gear attached.
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Next we see the spreader attached, and note how they are attached, with the oval curve closest to the attachment rather than closest to the yellow connecting handle. So far, in all the pictures I've seen the oval curve has been nearer the yellow handle! More on that later.
The new unit and attachments fit neatly into the new slide out system I've devised.
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Now the cutting gear in action. The crew carry it from the appliance and the cutting head is attached. Note that the cutting head (and the same applies to the spreader unit) has to be slightly clear of the handle for the klicky to be able to hold it with both hands. Lastly, the cutting head round the windscreen pillar of a fire brigade jeep. The blades don't open and close like the old version, but they are soft and flexible and so can be bent open and be placed round small diameter items.
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It's late so I'll leave things here for the moment. Tomorrow I'll show how the new motor unit can be used with the old cutters and spreaders and with custom items. Meanwhile, thanks for looking. :wave:
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When i first saw this tool i thought it was a self contained winch . I think i will change the Hyd. hose to a gray rope and still use it as one for my logging/tree crew and one for a rescue crew oh and one for the construction company and one more for the train maintenance team and and .......... :yup:
Thanks for the review and great pictures :wow:.
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Excellent review Gordon :wow:! I have a couple questions regarding the new design small spreader attachment, are they able to actually spread apart like the old spreaders, or do they stay in the closed position, are they rigid plastic, or flexible like the cutters?
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When i first saw this tool i thought it was a self contained winch . I think i will change the Hyd. hose to a gray rope and still use it as one for my logging/tree crew and one for a rescue crew oh and one for the construction company and one more for the train maintenance team and and .......... :yup:
Thanks for the review and great pictures :wow:.
Thank you, Ras, and the great thing about Playmobil is you can make some thing like this into exactly what you want. It will make a great portable winch for your logging crew and other crews.
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Excellent review Gordon :wow:! I have a couple questions regarding the new design small spreader attachment, are they able to actually spread apart like the old spreaders, or do they stay in the closed position, are they rigid plastic, or flexible like the cutters?
Thank you, Bill. Unfortunately, the new spreader's blades are fixed and, in line with much of the new Playmobil in the last few years, the blades are of a soft plastic.
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Excellent analysis Gordon :wow: :wow: !!!
Karim ;)
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Thank you, Karim. It's now tomorrow, so I'll continue with the review.
Can the new motor unit be used with the old rescue gear? Yes it can and quite simply by slotting the 30 20 1472 equipment handle onto one of the handles of the old gear. The first picture shows it in use with the spreaders and the second with the cutters. I've purposely not tried to make any modifications to the new gear because I currently don't have any spare parts and don't want to try custom work until I have at least one spare of each part.
Can the new motor unit be used with custom hoses? The answer is again "Yes" as you can see with my very simple experiment with some of the custom hose Bill Blackhurst sent me in the third picture. The hose is the string sort, but with a suitably thin and flexible real hose (and maybe a bit of drilliing out of the hole in the winding drum) I'm sure a more sophisticated system could be devised.
Later today I'll look at the prototype of the new rescue gear.
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Thanks for the review of this equipment, Gordon. I have to say, I like the detail they have put into it and that the spreaders are a more realistic size. They look much better with the klickys. Thanks for checking if Bill's hydraulic hoses will fit on the reel. 8-) Thanks for the review and the pictures.
I'm still amazed at your upside down crate lid, It looks great. ;D
- Ben
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Thank you for your kind words, Ben, both for the review and the storage system.
Some thoughts on the prototype for the Playmobil item. I think it is based on the Holmatro range of tools. Holmatro is a Netherlands based company specialising in hydraulic portable equipment. Assuming my view is right, it's a pity that Playmobil didn't produce the equipment in Homatro's colours of black and orange, especially as they have used these colours for the chainsaw with the new turntable ladder. Anyway, here are two pictures of Holmatro tools to support my idea. They produce two ranges, one with two hydraulic lines and one with apparently a single line but which actually contains the high pressure line safely within the low pressure one, the Core (TM) system. The two-tone coloured string used for the hydraulic line could be either, but I favour it being the Core (TM) system.
Lastly, a word on fitting the attachments together. In all the Playmobil pictures I've seen the cutter and spreader have been wrongly assembled onto the rest of the gear. as you can see in the first picture, assembled this way the klicky cannot properly hold the equipment. The final picture shows the equipment being held by firefighters in the UK. The fact that flori on klickywelt, who is a German fireman, also assembled the equipment in the same way as I did, confirms the error by Playmobil in its pictures.
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Thank you for an excellent review, Gordon!
As a former Coast Guardsman and Policeman, I am very interested in rescue equipment.
Your reviews are very thorough, yet easy to understand.
I actually have a lot of Playmobil from the rescue, firefighter and law enforcement theme. And, every time I read one of your outstanding reviews, Gordon, I am tempted just a bit more to do something creative with this theme. I either need to stop reading your reviews, or I need to look more seriously at what I can do with all my Playmobil from the rescue, firefighter and law enforcement theme.
Thanks again and all the best,
Richard
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Excellent additional review Gordon :wow:! I agree that the new smaller tools are based on Holmatro's design as we have been discussing for quite awhile now! I have seen their tools in use, & they're quite impressive, but I worked more with HURST/Vetter rescue tool systems when I ran with rescue units.
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Hello Gordon
You right playmobil makes a lot of mistakes on her pictures take the special blue fire man at example the belt is the wrong way
and way is the hole in thew winding drum not totally on one site
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Excellent review and photos Gordon, thank you! Although not my 'cup of tea' I really enjoy reading about fire and rescue, the design and use of equipment and how other members are customizing the equipment. :wow: :wow:
Gepetto