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General => Collector's Corner => Topic started by: Gustavo on February 07, 2009, 19:35:05
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Hello, Playmofriends!
Always hoping that gB does pays attention to what we think,
& considering that some of us (I can say for myself) never get bored of chatting about playmo,
I'd like propose this new thread.
Please, lets try (at least) not to use it to complain so much, aye? 8}
There are many news in the playmobil world (specifically, in the catalogue, for 2009), so, I think we could discuss some things, not only about this new line Playmobil has been developing (divided into many, I mean, a fantasy line, which contains the themes of "seapeople" (mermaids, nymphs, or "Atlantid people" ;D ), dragon knights, fairies, the already gone (but I'll mention them, anyhow) bunnies, and ghost pirates), so that we can share our opinions, and thoughts on them.
I'll let the thread open, and speak next week about what I think, for a beginning. I'd love to hear your opinion on the matter, no matter what you have in mind. Lets brainstorm, shall we? :)
(Respecfully, though, please, I beg, and as much without bitterness or bad feelings about it, as possible, if possible. If not, awgh, that's all right. As long as noone disrespects anyone else, including geobra ...)
Gus
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Does not leave much room for debate :lol:
I would have to say that i am not really that disappointed with the choice to try to sell a marketable toy . If it keeps playmobil in business than so be it . What i do not like is that they chose to use this building system on the new castle and on the Egyptians . I love what stecks and system X have allowed us to do with our building to enhance the Klickies world .
I guess I really just want Playmobil to stick to High Quality Interchangeability . I can finds useful parts in any theme be it History or Fantasy as long as they are customizable .
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fantasy has a very big problem - when you are used to "synthesize" people and buidings and vehicles for your designs, fantasy figures don't come out as good. :hmm:
the dragon in the picture is a good example of this. :yup:
does anybody thinks he looks well-built? ::)
i can't agree with rasputin - that playmobil should do whatever keeps the business going.
they have built a solid reputaion (something difficult to attain but easy to loose) doing high quality toys.
that's what they know how to do and maybe they shouldn't loose their focus.
when you try to do something you have no experience in doing, things tend to go wrong. like the dragon. ;)
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I'm with Rasputin - I'd rather have Playmobil still around with the occasional shoddy item (I agree that dragon looks poorly produced) than have them collapse and then no more Playmobil.
If you don't like some new theme, think of it as the necessary evil that allows your own theme to be produced.
Like Ras, I can find parts in any theme that are useful, but I'd like customisable building parts and not big lumps of plastic that clip together and can't be taken apart again. If that's the direction Playmobil go, I'll be buying buildings from different sources when I need them.
I don't have a problem with Fantasy as log as it's clear that's what it is. History can be a turn off to some kids, but when they see that the two themes can blend, then maybe they'll find history more interesting.
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I basically agree with Rasputin and Martin.
I still think that the Dragon-theme is rather a nice theme. I reserve my judgement on both the dragons and the tower. I would like to see them for real; although I doubt I will the towers very much.
The Dragon looks to me as if it's produced in the same way as Nessie; so it might nice.
All in all Fantasy has been part of Playmobil for a long time. I heard nobody moan when the the fairytale castle was released, nor when the entire Magic theme was released.
When the fairy-theme with the unicorns were released some of us were delighted while others just mentioned that they weren't into it.
The two fairytale sets weren't bemoaned either.
Some would argue that the Noah-set is pure fiction; yet no-one complained. Actually, it was a great hit in the shops! And now they're bringing in the Dragons and suddenly "Fantasy" isn't right. C'mon - watch the telly, read the books - there's Fantasy all over the place - and also for the adults ...
I think this theme might be a bigger hit then we would like to think.
As to the discussion Fantasy vs. History; I think there's plenty of room for both. I for one like both.
Bogro
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Exactly! Is it somehow different from the previous fantasy themes as Bogro says? or is it just a quick reaction to something new?
I also agree with the comments on the building system to be more of a concern... it would be great to be able to use parts you like as with the steck system. The clip/snap together sets don't make for easy customizing.
My other concern is for the number of sets released for each theme. It seems that once a new theme is released with 6 to 9 sets our only hope for something new in that line is a special or something in the DS catalogue. I would like to see further releases for new themes... why not more Egyptian or Roman set or 2, for instance?
Anyway I am just happy that Playmobil releases some sets that I'd like to get each year - historical or fantasy!
David
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cachalote, Is that the dragon that is in the new advent calendar or the one that comes with one of the towers . It looks really small and as though the wings or legs do not move ???
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Technically it's a Wyvern and not a Dragon as it doesn't have front legs ...
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i think this dragon is the one that comes with the towers rasputin. :yup:
the calender has a different one (you can see it the 2009 new knights thread).
maybe they are both very appelaing to a 5 year old (and also, of course, to some of our members) but when the 5 year old grows i have a feeling these will not be the figures he would like to go back to. :-\
... or maybe i am just an old-fashioned "classicist". :hmm:
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Beginning with the catalogue,
I know it isn't a History book, but
it brings
pg. 18, pirates,
pg. 20, knights (Middle Age)
pg. 22, Romans
It's exactly backwards, in historical theme. It isn't a crime ;D but ... c'mon! Is it historic playmo? Why not keep the chronology?
This catalogue I have doesn't bring Egyptians yet, but I was taking a look at the new online catalogue, and I noticed that Romans and Egyptians come together. Is Romans getting out of catalogue?? I agree with the Blue Wizard: there's a problem of taking collections out of line, for .. what reason exactly? Where are the Vikings? Where's the 1900? We all miss them, and I'm sure kids that keep coming would like them a lot.
I like the fantasy themes, because they can be combined with historic. For instance, merpeople go really well with Romans and even pirates. Dragons go well with knights. Ghost pirates are great to play with pirates. (Maybe not adults, but I like the idea.)
I can't be sure about gB NOT having made any sort of agreement with Hollywood. Maybe they didn't, and got smart, but they've been following the cinema, in a non official way (unlike Lego, which produces themes namely ... Star Wars, Indiana Jones), Playmobil has been making material for kids to play LordoftheRings-Eragon-otherdragons, and PiratesoftheCaribbean. That's wonderful for kids & for Playmobil, and -- in my opinion -- for the playmobil world.
I only would like to see things in order in the catalogues:
Egyptians
Romans
*Merpeople
Vikings
*Dragons
Middle Ages (civillian, BACK WITH THEMATIC STECK TIMBERED HOUSES & bellic)
("Arabian nights", which have been partially done + Crusaders, which were never a theme)
*Fairies
Fairy Tale Castle
*Bunnies
Spanish Sailors (NOT AS PART OF "PIRATES" ...)
*Ghost Pirates
Pirates
Western (I'd really like to see this back in the catalogue too)
1900 (idem)
& then
ranch-forestanimals-farm
zoo
transport/airport-harbour-transport/trains
construction
citylife (or city services)
police-rescue-hospital
modern living
modern dollhouse
leisure-sports-adventure
dinosaurs
These are some of the things I think, for a beginning. I'll possibly speak somethings else 8}
Gus
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Lets take a closer look at the
CHRONOLOGY
(from around) 3000 bC, Egyptians
from 800 bC to 400 aD, Romans
*Merpeople
aD 700 to 900, Vikings
*Dragons
from aD 500 (around), Middle Ages [the Middle Ages are conventioned as from the fall of Rome, aD 476, to the fall of Constantinople, aD 1453]
(part of Middle ages) aD 1000, "Arabian nights" + Crusaders
*Fairies
(looks like) around aD 1500 to 1700, Fairy Tale Castle
*Bunnies
from aD 1400 to 1600, Spanish Sailors
*Ghost Pirates
from 1700 to 1800, 1820 (Napoleonic wars), Pirates
from (around) 1800 to 1900 Western
Victorian Era, from 1850 to 1920
So, I think I placed wrong the Fairy Tale Castle ... It should come after the Spanish Sailors. They do have a XVIIth century looks. There was no fluffy dresses before the 1400s that I can spot in the books ...
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.... I agree with the Blue Wizard: there's a problem of taking collections out of line, for .. what reason exactly? Where are the Vikings? Where's the 1900? We all miss them, and I'm sure kids that keep coming would like them a lot. ...
I'm afraid that the answer is rather down to earth, boring and sobering. It's a question of production-capacity and money. Geobra can only produce a certain amount of sets at one time. In other words new sets in means old sets out. It would be very dangerous for Geobra indeed if they would continue to produce all the sets...
As a hopefull note in the side-line. They don't throw out any mold; but keep them aside for possible future use. As can be seen in the re-use of the Katana in the Ghost-pirates.
... I can't be sure about gB NOT having made any sort of agreement with Hollywood. Maybe they didn't, and got smart, but they've been following the cinema, in a non official way (unlike Lego, which produces themes namely ... Star Wars, Indiana Jones), Playmobil has been making material for kids to play LordoftheRings-Eragon-otherdragons, and PiratesoftheCaribbean. That's wonderful for kids & for Playmobil, and -- in my opinion -- for the playmobil world. ...
Geobra doesn't do licensing Just as part of their business principles.
On the other side; Playmobil is meant for 3 - 8 year old kids. I'm afraid that all the movies you mentioned are 10+ at least ... now that would be odd ;)
Bogro
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On the other side; Playmobil is meant for 3 - 8 year old kids. I'm afraid that all the movies you mentioned are 10+ at least ... now that would be odd ;)
Bogro
3-8? Where are you getting that from, Bogro?
When an upper range has been specified, I always thought it was 12. Most boxes these days just say 4+. The world cup footballers from last year say 5+, maybe because of the stickers, maybe the kicking leg. I'm not seeing 8 as a maximum age anywhere.
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I think we are the proof in the pudding that a max age range for Playmo does not apply.....start playing when you can keep the little pieces out of your mouth and stop when yer bones turn to dirt. :P I think they know this by now and are trying to crank out items that might please us all to some degree.
I am happy for Playmobil to do a huge variety of history, fantasy, modern and anything else they can cook up, as long as it is well made. I even like the creepy bunnies. :yup: I think the greatest play value can come from the creative inter-play of all the themes smooshed together for children, that is where new original stories can be born.
It seems that the downside to the Historical theme is in maintaining enough accuracy to keep it historical within the format of simplistic stylization that is the hallmark of Playmobil. Historic theme buffs love to grouse about how they messed up a helmet here or got the armor or heraldry wrong there. I think it's fun to listen to you guys meet it all out, but personally I am just glad that they are atleast attempting to accommodate our grown-up desires for these themes to be produced in the first place. I am certainly no strict history buff.....I just think klickies are cute. :lol:
The downside of the Modern theme is the out-datedness that can happen in our trend centered world. Styles of furniture and dress come and go.....but then again that allows them to continually update the Modern theme and for us to have a wide spectrum bits and pieces to fiddle with.
The disadvantage to Fantasy as I noticed recently in a post on another board that shall remain nameless, is that some might mistake what is considered pure fantasy or attempts at creative science fiction, such as the new dragon or old magic sets.......to be something sinister that goes against their religious world view. One poster there commented that the new Dragon insignia looks satanic....and used adjectives like wicked, and evil, afraid that perhaps it might turn a child into a psychopath to play with such items. It's plain to me that what could be seen as satanic is actually a stylized dragon head. I feel for the designers at Geobra when they have to tread the thin line of trying out something new and possibly edgy and still not offend the sensibilities of folks who might equate dragons, druids, ghosts, fairies and such as demonic and sure to lead children astray from goodness. :hmm: And I also hope I am not offending anybody's sensibilities here by saying as much. ::) :-[ :)
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3-8? Where are you getting that from, Bogro?
I thought that it was on the boxes; but I am not too sure now. I might easily be mistaken - in that case: SORRY !!!
... Historic theme buffs love to grouse about how they messed up a helmet here or got the armor or heraldry wrong there. I think it's fun to listen to you guys meet it all out, but personally I am just glad that they are at least attempting to accommodate our grown-up desires for these themes to be produced in the first place. I am certainly no strict history buff.....I just think klickies are cute. :lol:
Actually - I love to talk history. Each time there's a discussion, I look up things and read the comments of others and in the end I've learned a bit more. When it comes down to it; I love to rant History but am not that precise in my play ;)
BTW - I think we're both on the same wave length here 0)
Bogro
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I thought that it was on the boxes; but I am not too sure now. I might easily be mistaken - in that case: SORRY !!!
The boxes have always only had Ab 4 Jahre on them. No upper range on any of my boxes - neither old or new.
Bogro, you may think of LEGO boxes, which, in most cases, specify an age range.
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The boxes have always only had Ab 4 Jahre on them. No upper range on any of my boxes - neither old or new.
Bogro, you may think of LEGO boxes, which, in most cases, specify an age range.
I have been wrong then - my apologies. I thought I had seen it somewhere.
As to the L*** - boxes - the Danish Product - I keep a clean house and these are definitly banned from my house >:D ... (not that wife nor my kids adhere to it :love:) so there's no chance my mind being polluted that way ! ;D
Bogro
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8} if you read the reviews and comments made in amazon.com about the security check point set - http://www.amazon.com/Playmobil-3172-Security-Check-Point/review/product/B0002CYTL2/ref=dp_db_cm_cr_acr_txt?ie=UTF8&showViewpoints=1 - aybe you can see that there are also problems with reality, besides history & fantasy.
:hmm: apparently this story is "severe" enough to show in a new your times article - http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/16/business/media/16playmobil.html?_r=1&scp=1&sq=playmobil&st=cse - with an incredible title - "Playmobil Finds Fun in the Police State".
:wow: tom, from klickywelt.de, originally found out these strange news yesterday.
:P things aren't looking good for playmobil's current design trends...
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this is the new york times article, just in case it looses its link...
"Playmobil Finds Fun in the Police State
By ANDREW ADAM NEWMAN
Published: February 15, 2009
Playmobil toys depict real-life settings, and not always cheery ones, like a police station, hospital and animal clinic. But one, the Security Check Point, took that philosophy too far for some parents.
The set — which includes armed airport security officers, a metal detector and an X-ray screening machine — has drawn nearly 50 biting customer reviews, and scores of comments to those reviews, on Amazon.com.
“I applaud Playmobil for attempting to provide us with the tools we need to teach our children to unquestioningly obey the commands of the State Security Apparatus,” wrote one Amazon reviewer pseudonymously. “But unfortunately, this product falls short of doing that. There’s no brown figure for little Josh to profile, taser, and detain?”
The popular blogs BoingBoing and Jezebel are among hundreds to recently feature the product, which was made from 2003 until 2007 and is still available from many retailers.
Michelle Winfrey, marketing manager for Playmobil U.S.A., said the company, which is based in Germany, has never drawn so much ridicule.
“For whatever reason — maybe it was just the timing — that truly is the one item that people harped on,” said Ms. Winfrey, adding that the company’s decision to stop producing it was not because of criticism but rather consistent with its habit of doing limited runs for toys.
“The whole premise behind Playmobil toys is to familiarize the child with the realities of life through play,” Ms. Winfrey said. “If you’re taking a child for a first flight to Florida from New Jersey to visit grandparents, you say, ‘This is what the terminal looks like, and when we get here we have to take our shoes off and walk though security.”
Greg Allen, who wrote about Playmobil’s checkpoint toy on his parenting blog, Daddy Types, said the company has a “strong empirical tone” rather than an ideological one.
“It’s however you want your kid to see the world,” said Mr. Allen, whose daughter’s favorite Playmobil toy, a portable toilet, also has been discontinued. “With a security checkpoint, it can be, ‘This is what we’ll see on the way to see Grandma,’ or, ‘This is the dysfunction of the security state.’ You can make of it what you want.”
On his Web humor site Banterist, Brian Sack, author of “In the Event of My Untimely Demise,” has over the last two years photographed a series of “Playmobil Re-Enactments” of news events. One of his first depictions — in late 2006 — was of a woman who inexplicably put her 1-month-old grandson through the X-ray machine at the Los Angeles airport, and for this purpose Mr. Sack purchased the Security Check Point.
“When you think about toys, the last thing you’d think someone would create is the most miserable traveling experience you could have,” said Mr. Sack, who shares his Playmobil collection with his sons, ages 2 and 4 (and who confirmed that the traveler’s shoes in the set are not removable). “It’s like having a tax collector toy — for my first audit.”
Craig Berman, a spokesman for Amazon, said that the company occasionally removes customer reviews for being profane, but not for being facetious. Those interested in the airport security play set might also enjoy another toy on Amazon, the Playmobil Police Checkpoint, a roadblock scene with armed officers, pylons and warning lights.
“As an adjunct to this product,” Christopher Barber wrote in Amazon’s customer review section, “I would also recommend that you purchase the Playmobil Armed Standoff Playset, Fisher-Price Little People Battering Ram, and the Nerf Tear-Gas Canister Deployment Gun.”
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Well, I think Greg Allen is correct in that people will make of it what they want and right now going through airport security is not exactly a positive experience for most people. I know I used to really enjoy meeting people at the airport but now there is nothing I can think of that is worse.
Gepetto
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good or bad, any publicity is good publicity, right ;) Makes me want to go get some Radar cops and that Tax collector, did they have one in the merry mens sets ( what was his name, the sheriff or something like that ) ?
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good or bad, any publicity is good publicity, right ;) Makes me want to go get some Radar cops and that Tax collector, did they have one in the merry mens sets ( what was his name, the sheriff or something like that ) ?
The sheriff of Nottingham.
Gepetto
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Hm, interesting, maybe we also should think about removing the pistols and rifles from the police sets so that children are not confronted at frist with a tool to shoot people ("look this is tool to put 'presure' on people or with this bat you can hit people if they do not want as the officials want") ...
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Well, I think Greg Allen is correct in that people will make of it what they want and right now going through airport security is not exactly a positive experience for most people. I know I used to really enjoy meeting people at the airport but now there is nothing I can think of that is worse.
Gepetto
How could you build a Playmobil model airport without the security checking area?
Agreed, people make of it what they will, and the people who don't "get" this set have presumably never taken the trouble to introduce their kids to the unfamiliar.
When I have kids I'm planning to use these sorts of sets, and the doctor and the dentist, to let them know what to expect the first time, so they're less apprehensive.
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:hmm: apparently this story is "severe" enough to show in a new your times article - http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/16/business/media/16playmobil.html?_r=1&scp=1&sq=playmobil&st=cse - with an incredible title - "Playmobil Finds Fun in the Police State".
:eh?: I think it's a very harmless set. Is this a common opinion in America?
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:eh?: I think it's a very harmless set. Is this a common opinion in America?
No, What tends to happen is some outraged parents get on a soap box and people listen :doh: I am sure people get outraged at just about anything that anybody makes and they want the whole world to know about it . Unfortunately for the masses, some seem not to be able to think for themselves and they are unable to come to a logical conclusion ( its a toy of the real world ) ::)
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:lol: what i found funny is that this "harmless" set - when viewed by european eyes - gathered so many "critic" and all the other s.w.a.t. sets little more than silence. :hmm:
so, apparently, rifles and shot-guns and handguns and sniper-rifles are o.k. for children to play with - the real problem comes from an airport check-point. 8}
really "terrible", i guess, would be a klicky with a "real" identity card (instead of a driver's license) with a proper photo, height indication, place of birth, place of living, father's name, mother's name, etc.. ;)
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:lol: what i found funny is that this "harmless" set - when viewed by european eyes - gathered so many "critic" and all the other s.w.a.t. sets little more than silence. :hmm:
so, apparently, rifles and shot-guns and handguns and sniper-rifles are o.k. for children to play with - the real problem comes from an airport check-point. 8}
Thats right I never thought of it like that . Don't you dare take away my gun it my constitutional right !
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:lol: what i found funny is that this "harmless" set - when viewed by european eyes - gathered so many "critic" and all the other s.w.a.t. sets little more than silence. :hmm:
so, apparently, rifles and shot-guns and handguns and sniper-rifles are o.k. for children to play with - the real problem comes from an airport check-point. 8}
really "terrible", i guess, would be a klicky with a "real" identity card (instead of a driver's license) with a proper photo, height indication, place of birth, place of living, father's name, mother's name, etc.. ;)
I think part of the lack of reaction to the SWAT teams is the general understanding that they are after 'bad' people whereas something like the security station questions the character of 'good' people who are inconvenienced.
Gepetto
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I think part of the lack of reaction to the SWAT teams is the general understanding that they are after 'bad' people whereas something like the security station questions the character of 'good' people who are inconvenienced.
Gepetto
Well Gepetto just think that I go through Air Ports and let me tell you the last time we were really checked over, a few times ( not in that weird rubber glove way, i would have walked instead ;)) but i will confess the guy i was flying with did check in all his hand guns and rifles :P and we were headed to Sand-point Idaho :0 on a one way ticket :omg:
It does make me wonder what other sets get this type of reaction . Did the executioner ? or the harley biker ?
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I think the Security Checkpoint should be packaged in a boxed-set with the Hazmat Team and SWAT Sets for extra modern fun fun fun! :lol:
I like that Playmobil does these quirky sets, it adds spice. :yup:
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:lol: what i found funny is that this "harmless" set - when viewed by european eyes - gathered so many "critic" and all the other s.w.a.t. sets little more than silence. :hmm:
Really, by Europeans eyes? I thought the article was from the New York Times ???
Although I must state that I'm also not very pleased being treated like a criminal just after arrested only when travelling around the world ... anyway maybe this is the price nowadays to pay for security and physical inviolability.
So I agree with Gepetto: the differnce is that S.W.A.T. and guns are for facing against "identified" criminals but the checkpoint for "treating" all people ... with the intention to identify criminals. So would this mean that observation cameras -- like used quite several times in some sets -- with the same purpose as the checkpoint are "demonized" in the same way as the checkpoint has been?
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Well Gepetto just think that I go through Air Ports and let me tell you the last time we were really checked over, a few times ( not in that weird rubber glove way, i would have walked instead ;)) but i will confess the guy i was flying with did check in all his hand guns and rifles :P and we were headed to Sand-point Idaho :0 on a one way ticket :omg:
It does make me wonder what other sets get this type of reaction . Did the executioner ? or the harley biker ?
Oh yes, the executioner came in for his share of shocked reactions. Playmobil responded that he represents law & order in the medieval world and he was not withdrawn before his due time.
One comment on security checkpoints in real world airports, they're totally useless anyway. If I were a suicide bomber planning mayhem with a home-made bomb, I wouldn't wait until I got caught at the checkpoint, I'd explode myself while queuing with the thousands of other annoyed travellers. That's cause a lot more disruption and carnage that any post-checkpoint shenanigins.
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when i said "european eyes" i meant mine, little jo. :-[
i don't think that this check-point set is a pedagogical hazard -only a bit dull maybe :yup:
but i can see where the "bad" reactions come from and i bet geobra is quite amazed by the negative reactions it has gathered. 8}
they will have to get used to it. :yup:
as martin said, people make of it what they will, and the more playmobil sell the more people will get to know the sets - and this includes all sort of people.
historical sets have a comparative advantage - it's difficult to get madly silly over a knight's smile even if he is fully armoured. ;)
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It seems that some people have nothing better to do than speak about how they don't like something that in their opinion is so "terrible"! My thought is, if you don't want to educate your children about a realistic world, don't buy it, but keep your mouths shut! Has any one got on a soap box regarding the Roman coliseum with gladiators dueling to the death, or being attacked, & eaten by lions, or the chariot races that had swords mounted to the wheels to mow down the fighters who were standing in the way? Or what about the knight, & castle theme? Armored knights conquering each others territory with swords, bows, & arrows, catapults throwing flaming bombs, boiling oil being poured over the castle walls on to attackers, ramming towers to break through a castle wall, or a horse drawn prisoner cart with a poor taxpayer being transported to the dungeon because he coudn't pay. This is considered history not current events, but at its time were extremely more violent than an airport security check point without the rubber glove treatment, so get over it!
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i am glad you left out my beloved pirates bill... ;)
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i am glad you left out my beloved pirates bill... ;)
I'm sorry, I didn't mean to omit anyone :arrr:,..... & what about the pirate theme with all of that sword fighting, plundering, shooting powder pistols, & cannons causing blood shed :yippee:, oh no that's terrible,......how was that, better ;D?
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It seems that some people have nothing better to do than speak about how they don't like something that in their opinion is so "terrible"! My thought is, if you don't want to educate your children about a realistic world, don't buy it, but keep your mouths shut! Has any one got on a soap box regarding the Roman coliseum with gladiators dueling to the death, or being attacked, & eaten by lions, or the chariot races that had swords mounted to the wheels to mow down the fighters who were standing in the way? Or what about the knight, & castle theme? Armored knights conquering each others territory with swords, bows, & arrows, catapults throwing flaming bombs, boiling oil being poured over the castle walls on to attackers, ramming towers to break through a castle wall, or a horse drawn prisoner cart with a poor taxpayer being transported to the dungeon because he coudn't pay. This is considered history not current events, but at its time were extremely more violent than an airport security check point without the rubber glove treatment, so get over it!
Yes, actually that's what I meant.
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And what about fantasy? People who want to protect their children from uncomfortable elements in history or reality ironically don't have any reservations about the very dark and violent streaks in many of our beloved fairy tales and nursery rhymes.
The Bible also has extremely violent sections.
For better or worse, ours is a violent species.
To echo Bill's point, an airport security checkpoint is tame by comparison.
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And what about fantasy? People who want to protect their children from uncomfortable elements in history or reality ironically don't have any reservations about the very dark and violent streaks in many of our beloved fairy tales and nursery rhymes.
The Bible also has extremely violent sections.
For better or worse, ours is a violent species.
To echo Bill's point, an airport security checkpoint is tame by comparison.
Another side I hadn't even thought of, but very true :-\!
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I'm afraid that the answer is rather down to earth, boring and sobering. It's a question of production-capacity and money. Geobra can only produce a certain amount of sets at one time. In other words new sets in means old sets out. It would be very dangerous for Geobra indeed if they would continue to produce all the sets...
As a hopefull note in the side-line. They don't throw out any mold; but keep them aside for possible future use. As can be seen in the re-use of the Katana in the Ghost-pirates.
Geobra doesn't do licensing Just as part of their business principles.
You are right.
Even so, I'd love to see some sort of "secondary collector agenda", like "hey: next year we're going to launch this again for you, collectors". It sounds like nonsense, because what happens nowadays is exactly the contrary: without agenda, we are afraid and counting down the day of the discontinuing of our favourite today's collection.
The logic of the market is that you have to produce something new to launch on Christmas, so it will sell, and make them money to pay Zirndorf. That's all right, not to mention that the production is turned back to children. That's all right as well.
It's sad, though, that we can't have some sort of cicle of launching again the themes, Either because they disappear, get rare (which may be an unconcious interest of the market (...)), as because those who don't have DS in their countries have to keep making calculations of when and how to make it happen to get bits or to compose sets and scenes that they'd like to, when it'd be easier to open Amazon.com, and send for a Tailor's House 8} aaaah-- 8} aaaah! :love: 8}, ( :lol: ). Or even go to the Lojas Americanas, at the corner (Brasilian "Target" ...), and get one, even if divided into 10 in credit card ... (Oh, smokes! Good that there isn't this possibility!!! ::) haha!)
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I love to see the mermaids in the catalogue. They go so well with the Romans!, heavens! And they go fine with pirates as well. Too bad I'm short of money, or I'd already gotten some ;D
I like the ghost pirates as well. However, my priority, due to lack of resourses, are still some other things (4444 still, and hope they'll maintain it in catalogue time enough for me to get one ...) as well as I have to raise the money to make my DS order through a playmofriend who lives in the US, who's volunteered to help me with this.
But I'll survive, I'll survive :lol:
Gus
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I'm fairly new on the scene, but the fairies were the first things to catch my eye, to cause an obsession to start. I like a little of everything though. I really like the idea of having a very diverse multicultural "society"... with whatever I end up designing with mine.
I admit, I'm more interested in fantasy than I am in creating something historically correct, but that's just me. I can see that there really is something for everyone here. I find it extremely fascinating. I am also looking forward to mixing and matching... A mermaid cowboy! Something like that. ;D
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I'm currently dreaming up a Playmobil world where I can incorporate several themes in a Fantasy Medieval setting. One joy of Fantasy is nobody can tell you that you got something wrong.
My world will include the Romans, Egyptians and Pirates among others, each as outflung nations, with a central feudal Nation based on the Knights theme. There may be elves and other non-human but humanoid elements, such as the Space aliens and winged knights, and of course Dragons.