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General => Collector's Corner => Topic started by: Martin Milner on July 17, 2008, 11:25:01
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You might be right but if it was available through the websites then it wouldn't be exclusive :lens:
Hurrah! Down with exclusivity and elitism! Up with the common Klicky!
Come the revolution, those exclusives will be first up against the wall...
It gets me thinking about why I'm collecting Playmobil in the first place.
Does rarity matter? Do I enjoy a piece more if other people don't have it?
If I'm collecting a theme, how complete does it need to be?
If new versions come out of things I already have, do I want to buy the updated version?
At what point is any collection complete?
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It gets me thinking about why I'm collecting Playmobil in the first place.
Does rarity matter? Do I enjoy a piece more if other people don't have it?
If I'm collecting a theme, how complete does it need to be?
If new versions come out of things I already have, do I want to buy the updated version?
At what point is any collection complete?
I've been waiting about 20 years to get a timbered house, which may come to happen in September or October (the plan is October, so, lets see how it goes). So, to me it's HURRAH to the INTERNET!!! I can buy from (most) anywhere!
& Interesting questions indeed, Martin! 8}
It gets me thinking about why I'm collecting Playmobil in the first place.
1. I like it; 2. it makes me, somehow, turn back to a productive part of my childhood & teenage days; 3. I found out some very interesting pictures in the internet, some time ago (February, March?), and decided to try to do it myself ... My hobby isn't exactly collecting Playmo, but photographing klickys ...
Does rarity matter? Do I enjoy a piece more if other people don't have it?
To a collector, yes; To a photographer, no.
If I'm collecting a theme, how complete does it need to be?
Complete (or incomplete), in a view of someone from outside ... You could find a system of grades, but I think it's a matter of self evaluation.
If new versions come out of things I already have, do I want to buy the updated version?
If you like it, yes. If you want to expand your collection's range (it has to do with the question right above), yes; but you could focus on 1970s' Medieval Playmo, for example ... Or only the "Merry Men" collection. It's "healthy" to try to complete a collection, but not necessary (nor "unhealthy" not to try). -- Long discussion here (...)
At what point is any collection complete?
At the point you have defined what are the limits of your collection. If ever it has a limit. Playmo is always appearing. You'll probably be 70 years old, and still have Playmobil to buy. And lets hope it's steck system (!).
Gus
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Does rarity matter? Do I enjoy a piece more if other people don't have it?
Does rarity matter? Do I enjoy a piece more if other people don't have it?
A collector's question indeed. Not only, though. You should enjoy the pieces because of themselves. Wish to have it? Well, there's things I would like (love, actually) to have, but I can't, and won't. (If I ever come by it, it will be 1. accident & 2. strike of luck! ...)
Of course, with new stuff coming up (like Egyptians), it's a bit different: you'd like to have it now, this is the ... problem. (Or the trouble, because you ... I see you suffering.) And to tell "Be patient, Martin" won't calm you down. But you have kids, if I recall it right, don't you? ...
Gus
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Of course, with new stuff coming up (like Egyptians), it's a bit different: you'd like to have it now, this is the ... problem. (Or the trouble, because you ... I see you suffering.) And to tell "Be patient, Martin" won't calm you down. But you have kids, if I recall it right, don't you? ...
No kids yet Gus, but hopefully in the next few years I'll have an excuse for my collection!
Taking things to their logical, or perhaps illogical conclusion, suppose I was automatically sent one of every set or figure Playmobil released on the day it was released, would I still feel the same about rarity and collecting?
No, I wouldn't value any of the pieces for long, because there'd be a new one to replace it all too soon. I'd probably start by opening everything to play with, then just too look at, and eventually I would just stash the boxes unopened, and possibly even unlooked at. Before long it would not be fun anymore, it would be come a chore.
Rarity would no longer be a factor, since I'd have everything, rare or not. All the pleasure of anticipation, searching, comparing and discovering new sets would be gone.
With the Egyptians, I don't care who else has them, I just think they look great and I want them!
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With the Egyptians, I don't care who else has them, I just think they look great and I want them!
My friend feels the same way about the cheerleaders for the University of Illinois Fighting Illini.
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No kids yet Gus, but hopefully in the next few years I'll have an excuse for my collection!
Right ...
Do we need an excuse? ::)
(I don't think I have [size equals if it could be smaller, it would](a good)[dash size] one ...) ;D
Concerning other things, maybe you buy too much playmobil ... Get a holliday! :P (I'm kidding ...)
Gus
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Taking things to their logical, or perhaps illogical conclusion, suppose I was automatically sent one of every set or figure Playmobil released on the day it was released, would I still feel the same about rarity and collecting?
Oh ... I missed this question before the hypothetical answers. Right. Now, this is something for me to think about.
So, we aren't measured by having all, I think with myself ... And it seems that the less you have, the more you give value, and take profit of (in some ways) ... -- This is a hypothesis too, but untrue, I think.
(Once you said that my first "Sir Elmo" stories made you remember some old plays you made yourself; Richard sent a thought about why having a great lot of klickys & buildings doesn't produce interesting stories necessarily. These thoughts may be related to this thread's direction ...)
Maybe a better hypothesis would be "the more you have, the less you get yourself the work of doing things with them" ...
I miss a smiley with the hand at the chin ... A "hmm", mixed with a "roll eyes", being this last not smiling, and the first not looking at us, readers.
The last hypothesis may have strayed a bit from your original thought, but it's a vague topic, and it's good that it is so! We can come back to your subject, pull me back whenever, however you can! I'm a wanderer ...
G.
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&, Lastly, ...
"My Collecting Habits", all right ;D
It's odd, but I don't have many yet. (I began again too recently.) So, it's a bit like it was in late youth, just before giving them.
One of the things that made me return was to think that I had no playmobil in my closets ... I missed them, because I remembered that, whenever I got depressed, in youth, I'd take the playmos & legos out of the closets, and put them on the table, and do things. It was easier (and more frequent) with legos, but more interesting and fruitful (to me) with the playmos. However, back then, more limited, because I was in days of no playmobil around. Estrela was bringing, but I wouldn't go to toystores, and it didn't las long either anyway -- Estrela's playmobil importation. And there was no internet either. And no playmofriends, ... Not even real ones (which I wished to mean, actually, because my only plamofriends before you guys was a cousin, who lives in Minas Gerais, another (distant) State of the Brasilian federation ...) The few friends I had then (late youth) were all "lego guys" (two of them), an one "only-books guy", so, I had noone to make me turn back to playmobil, and, at last, other things happened (first girlfriends) that made me think that I dnd't want any toys in the closets anymore, ... or needed them.
There was no digital photography.
So, however I still have very little toys back in my closets, I still have a ... childish perhaps, way of storing them. (I got a bit ashamed, when I evesdropped Jochen's homepage :-[ ...) I'll never be so ... clean, I believe, as some people (Jochen), but maybe (I believe so) I'll need better organization practices in the future.
I will possibly post another one, because there's a lot to speak about this, but I'll honestly try to make a (significant) break, so as to hear other people's thoughts ... :hmm: My self-evaluation asks so. I am a selfish guy ... (Love to speak about myself, call attention to myself, &c..)
blackhair
G.
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Gus ...
I am watching you replying to your own posts. And, I'm beginning to feel bad that you have to talk to yourself ... :klickywink:
I'm sure that everyone here would like to play with you, but most of the members have other commitments on the weekends.
My suggestion would be for you to make a list of Playmobil weekend projects that you would really like to do. Things that you would like to do and photograph to share with the other members here at Playmofriends. Then every Sunday night or Monday post your wonderful creations for everyone to see.
Your "creations" could be stories, custom Klickys, photographs of your Klickys taken in different places around Rio or maybe some photos of Klickys on the shelves in some of your local toy stores.
I know that you can think of many things that would be exciting and of real interest to almost everyone here.
Brazil is an incredibly fascinating and beautiful country with a rich history. I would love to see your history told through your Klickys. I have never been to Brazil, and I don't know if anyone else here at Playmofriends has been to Brazil either.
I found a page that shows many of the old forts where you could take some great photos with your Klickys ... Click HERE (http://www.colonialvoyage.com/viaggi/brazilfernandoforts.html)!
Have fun y buen fim de semana ... :klickygrin:
All the best,
Richard
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I'm sure that everyone here would like to play with you, but most of the members have other commitments on the weekends.
Most but not all, eh, Richard? :lol:
Why don't we call this place a pub so the social failures among us don't have to feel so embarrassed about frequenting a site with a name that sounds like a TV show for five year olds.
"Playmopub"--no place to go when the bar closes, but, thank god, the bar never closes...
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Most but not all, eh, Richard? :lol:
Why don't we call this place a pub so the social failures among us don't have to feel so embarrassed about frequenting a site with a name that sounds like a TV show for five year olds.
"Playmopub"--no place to go when the bar closes, but, thank god, the bar never closes...
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Although it WAS very funny, master Tim, now, imagine a smiley trying to hold the laugh ...
Although it was funny, it is supposed to be a place for children too, Tim.
(& There ARE children here. Someone's about to be 12, in the aniversaries' announcements.)
So, for pubs, we should make somewhere else ... And, thinking about it, ... We might, aye? ;D
Gus ...
I am watching you replying to your own posts. And, I'm beginning to feel bad that you have to talk to yourself ... :klickywink:
I'm sure that everyone here would like to play with you, but most of the members have other commitments on the weekends.
I am watching you replying to your own posts. And, I'm beginning to feel bad that you have to talk to yourself ... :klickywink:
I'm sure that everyone here would like to play with you, but most of the members have other commitments on the weekends.
Hello, Richard! :)
Although I was 3 when you were 30, now I'm 30 ... :lol:
Sorry to say so like this. Actually, you are being kind to me. I feel like I'm being very well treated :yup:
Don't be scared about the growth of the volume of my incoming text ... I have intranet now at home. I usually spend a lot of my free time in and out Playmofriends ... When I actually NEED somewhere else, I go to Playmoboard, and other places, blogs, other subjects ... Point is, I'm not here because of lacking places to be. I'm here because I have more internet access, now.
Thanks for worrying, though :*)
My suggestion would be for you to make a list of Playmobil weekend projects that you would really like to do. Things that you would like to do and photograph to share with the other members here at Playmofriends. Then every Sunday night or Monday post your wonderful creations for everyone to see.
Your "creations" could be stories, custom Klickys, photographs of your Klickys taken in different places around Rio or maybe some photos of Klickys on the shelves in some of your local toy stores.
I know that you can think of many things that would be exciting and of real interest to almost everyone here.
Brazil is an incredibly fascinating and beautiful country with a rich history. I would love to see your history told through your Klickys. I have never been to Brazil, and I don't know if anyone else here at Playmofriends has been to Brazil either.
I found a page that shows many of the old forts where you could take some great photos with your Klickys ... Click HERE (http://www.colonialvoyage.com/viaggi/brazilfernandoforts.html)!
Have fun y buen fim de semana ... :klickygrin:
All the best,
Richard
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I'm waiting a bit to see if Masie & Fred appear around in Carioca toystores ...
In spite of the winter (it's very cold!: we Cariocas don't like the cold! ... It must be around 22 C degrees (Sorry, don't remember the conversion to Fahrenheit ...), it's been nice sunny days, blue sky. Some other day, by chance (I hadn't planned), I went at the Lagoa, and I tought that I should have taken the camera (& a klicky :yup: ) [Oops ... Didn't think of a klicky, by then ... It occured me as I was answering you ...]
However, I'm putting on the tip of the pen the numbers, so that I can begin consuming (much) more batteries. And I still don't have many klickys, so, they stay home. (It isn't a habit of mine to take them out yet ... I hope soon I'll have at least one main travelling little friend, but I'm in about 20-30 -- & 'think I stopped counting already ... Odd! ::) )
But you will all see Rio, don't worry. In time you will see it around here, if things go according to plans.
Don't feel bad about me posting three messages one after another: most times, it has to do with my will of making separate texts thouroughly for slightly different therefore different subjects. But I remember the instructions in the guidelines (http://www.playmofriends.com/forum/index.php?topic=40.0). I'm sorry, actually. I should try to speak more in only one post, and I'll make effort to do so.
As for projects, I'm working in part 2 of Fletchers trip ... I'm adapting new sizes of pictures in the internet, once I'm in another computer as well. (I'm trying to do everything in the virtual photo program Martin had mentioned, that I started to use, some time ago ... It works fine, I'll only have to pay attention at the size of the pics, that I'd like to maintain like they've been, and the scale is a bit subtle to control ... Actually, I'm working on it right now. -- Actually was; I had to stop to answer this ...) And it is in my plans to go on shooting Fletcher & Elmo at night (so as not to alter the light -- I already have too much limitations with the machine to deal with ...), so I had to wait all day long. Today & Tomorrow will be days for shooting :D & I also got a piece of ... how do you call it? mármore? ... Ivory, that I'd like to try as a table, with my pirates ;D ... So, I have plenty of things to do; I hope the weekend lasts the length I'd need, because it's the first free one in a month: I had to move, to be best man in a wedding, to receive visits to new home, last week ... Today, I'm freeeeeeee! :woohoo:: This is why I'm in Playmofriends all day! :lol:
Cordially,
Gus
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I'm waiting a bit to see if Maisie & Fred appear around in Carioca toystores ...i
Not going to happen, Gus, they're only available through Direct Order.
Give me you address in a PM and I'll send you a Maise & Fred set so you can take them out and photograph some fine Brazilian sights for us..
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Although it was funny, it is supposed to be a place for children too, Tim.
(& There ARE children here. Someone's about to be 12, in the aniversaries' announcements.)
So, for pubs, we should make somewhere else ... And, thinking about it, ... We might, aye? ;D
We're not a babysitting service! :hmm:
This is one of my pet peeves! (Don't start a flame war, Tim!)
But, seriously, 12 year olds aren't so delicate and innocent ("Dude, he said 'beer'").
And kids younger than that should probably be discouraged from wasting time on the forum.
But, to all you hypothetical twelve-year-olds who think babies come from storks and taverns sell lemonade, the trick to getting in the front door of the Playmopub is to hold your ID upside down--the 12 looks like 21, and we're too busy bantering about our middle-class and middle-aged woes to look twice.
-Tim
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Hello, Martin ...
Not going to happen, Gus, they're only available through Direct Order.
Give me your address in a PM and I'll send you a Maisie & Fred set so you can take them out and photograph some fine Brazilian sights for us.
"Maisie and Fred's Excellent Adventures" is a brilliant idea! However, since the beginning, I've wondered how many Playmofriends members actually have a "Maisie and Fred" in their Playmobil collection?
I know that I don't! And, I probably would only order this Add-On from Direct Service if I wanted to post some photos to this one topic. And, because of where I am (on a little remote island in the Caribbean), it is very difficult to order anything from Playmobil.
Having said that, I am really looking forward to the photos of Gordon's walking tour. And, I would love to see pictures of Brazil from Gus. And, I would like to see some more of Denmark from Lars. And, more of your London, Martin!
But, what about Heather's Newfoundland? Does Heather have a Maisie and Fred?
And, Sylvia's Scotland? Does Sylvia have a Maisie and Fred?
We have members living all over the world. How many of them would take pictures to share with us, if they only had a Maisie and Fred?
Martin, do you plan on sending ALL of us a Maisie and Fred? Did an old (an unknown) rich uncle die and leave you more money than you could ever spend?
Or, maybe we could print out the attached photo from Lars, make cut-outs of Maisie and Fred and place the paper figures in the foreground of our "travel" photos? Not exactly the same as having the actual Klickys, but it might work?
Maybe someone has a better idea? I hope so!
All the best,
Richard
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Hello, Martin ...
"Maisie and Fred's Excellent Adventures" is a brilliant idea! However, since the beginning, I've wondered how many Playmofriends members actually have a "Maisie and Fred" in their Playmobil collection?
I know that I don't! And, I probably would only order this Add-On from Direct Service if I wanted to post some photos to this one topic. And, because of where I am (on a little remote island in the Caribbean), it is very difficult to order anything from Playmobil.
Having said that, I am really looking forward to the photos of Gordon's walking tour. And, I would love to see pictures of Brazil from Gus. And, I would like to see some more of Denmark from Lars. And, more of your London, Martin!
But, what about Heather's Newfoundland? Does Heather have a Maisie and Fred?
And, Sylvia's Scotland? Does Sylvia have a Maisie and Fred?
We have members living all over the world. How many of them would take pictures to share with us, if they only had a Maisie and Fred?
Martin, do you plan on sending ALL of us a Maisie and Fred? Did an old (an unknown) rich uncle die and leave you more money than you could ever spend?
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I picked the F&M figures because, theoretically, they were easy for anyone to get. They could be ordered alongside any other order from Playmobil that someone might be making, and they're a cheap couple (they don't eat much).
I didn't realise how few people actually use Playmobil's internet website to order stuff. Because I have to travel a long way to get to any Playmobil sellers, I order most of my stuff from the website.
I can certainly afford to send a set to anybody who want to join in and can't get their own set. If a dozen or so people suddenly pipe up, I might request a donation via Paypal, but as long as it's only one or two it's no hardship.
Actually I DID have a rich uncle die and indirectly leave me a fat wedge of cash, though it mostly got used paying off the mortgage (hurrah), or got salted away into savings funds (hurrah).
My own F & M figures went missing sometime after my trip to Oxford, though I have a possible stand-in for Fred, but haven't another Maisie. Hopefully when I have a good search they'll turn up.
If ANYONE needs the F&M figures to join in with the fun, message me with your name/address, and I'll see how many there are. If it's less than 10 (and I suspect it is) I'll happily buy them and send them out at my expense, to get people started.
Let me know before the weekend.
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Great idea, Martin.
Now let's see ...
It gets me thinking about why I'm collecting Playmobil in the first place.
mmm ... I guess it lets the child that's in me play. Beside that; I like to put up displays; always have.
And on another level; I just like the way it looks. It has something very appealing to me.
Does rarity matter? Do I enjoy a piece more if other people don't have it?
I don't care much for Rarity in itself - although I do like owning something that "normal" kids don't have. On the other hand I do feel that sharing is a great part of collecting.
If I'm collecting a theme, how complete does it need to be?
It has to be as complete as I want it to be. For instance; I have all the jungle sets with natives as I like the dark Africa feel of it. But I don't have the sets of that same theme with the explorers. Somehow, they are much too modern for my liking. Now, if they had been Victorian age like explorers ... mmm.
On the other hand; with the new Egyptians there's no other way - I must have them ALL !!!
If new versions come out of things I already have, do I want to buy the updated version?
I only do that if the new version appeals to me. Or is a part of a theme I definitly want it all - for instance: the Specials. The Rolling Robot (4528 and 4604) has been released twice (more or less; one is silver the other is yellow, but otherwise they're identical) so I have both of them. Otherwise, I wouldn't have.
At what point is any collection complete?
If the owner says it is. There's almost always something more that one can wish for ... but when the owner says it's enough for him or her, then it is complete.
But that's just me ;D
Bogro
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Hello, Martin ...
If ANYONE needs the F&M figures to join in with the fun, message me with your name/address, and I'll see how many there are. If it's less than 10 (and I suspect it is) I'll happily buy them and send them out at my expense, to get people started.
Let me know before the weekend.
How could anyone refuse such a generous offer from you and your dearly departed rich uncle? ... :klickygrin:
Also, Martin, anyone accepting such a wonderful present from you, should certainly feel obligated to post many beautiful photos ... over at "Maisie and Fred's Excellent Adventure" (http://www.playmofriends.com/forum/index.php?topic=2130.0) ... :klickywink:
All the best:
Richard Silvano
8168 Crown Bay Marina
Suite 310 PMB6
St. Thomas, VI 00802
United States Virgin Islands
USA
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Thanks Richard and Martin for reminding me of Maisie and Fred :wow:
I've found the couple again and they are now ready to travel in the North Zealand region :camera:
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And, Sylvia's Scotland? Does Sylvia have a Maisie and Fred?
Er... yes, I do have them. :-[
And I will take them out for a little tour of Inverness. :toot:
I have been terribly lazy of late and didn't feel like taking any photos, but I'll try and do some soon.
It's school holiday time here now so maybe I'll be able to get the younger kids involved.
They can help me think up some places we can take them to visit. ;)
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But, what about Heather's Newfoundland? Does Heather have a Maisie and Fred?
I got mine today, thanks to dear playmofire. They'll go to the circus this evening, and around town in the coming few days. They'll hit all the summer festivals, I'm sure, and go 'around the bay' with us in August.
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Hello, ladies ... :wave: :wave:
Er... yes, I do have them. :-[
And I will take them out for a little tour of Inverness. :toot:
I have been terribly lazy of late and didn't feel like taking any photos, but I'll try and do some soon.
It's school holiday time here now so maybe I'll be able to get the younger kids involved.
They can help me think up some places we can take them to visit. ;)
I got mine today, thanks to dear playmofire. They'll go to the circus this evening, and around town in the coming few days. They'll hit all the summer festivals, I'm sure, and go 'around the bay' with us in August.
I hope that you both realize/realise that I was only using Scotland and Newfoundland as examples of two places that might be of interest to PF's members. And, that my post was NOT meant to be critical of either of you in any way.
However, if some renewed interest has been stirred because of some re-awakened feelings. And, if that means that we'll soon get to see Maisie and Fred visiting Sylvia's Scotland and Heather's Newfoundland ... then I accept full responsibility ... :klickygrin:
All the best,
Richard
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Suite 310 PMB6
Golly, Richard, even your address is P(lay)M(o)B(il).
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Golly, Richard, even your address is P(lay)M(o)B(il).
Very good catch, Timmy ... :wow:
Now, how about the "6" ... ?
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Richard,
I think the '6' is the number of each Playmobil item you need to have to feed the 'fire'.
Gepetto
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Very good catch, Timmy ... :wow:
Now, how about the "6" ... ?
Or maybe it's excuse enough for you to find 6 instead of "5 Favourite Klickies (http://www.playmofriends.com/forum/index.php?topic=2417.0)" of Martin's thread ... ;)
;D
G.
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