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General => News => Topic started by: Rasputin on September 26, 2023, 16:24:51

Title: Wondering if Geobra will follow LEGO (no recycled plastic)
Post by: Rasputin on September 26, 2023, 16:24:51
“Lego, the world’s largest toymaker, has abandoned a plan to start making its iconic bricks from recycled drink bottles instead of oil-based plastic.

the Danish company, which makes billions of Lego pieces each year, has found that making bricks from recycled polyethylene terephthalate (RPET) would lead to higher carbon emissions.”

Geobra started making Playmobil out of some form of recycled material. I’m never a fan of this as I’m interested in longevity . All the rubbery parts are quite questionable but the recycled ones pose other issues

Title: Re: Wondering if Geobra will follow LEGO (no recycled plastic)
Post by: playmofire on September 26, 2023, 18:42:15
Playmobil have been recycling plastic of many years, damaged or below standard pieces being ground down and then remelted.
Title: Re: Wondering if Geobra will follow LEGO (no recycled plastic)
Post by: Ismene on September 27, 2023, 06:52:50
My mother told me about this today. I assume they are still melting down failed bricks, etc. It sounded like the problem was this other type of plastic.

Has Playmobil stated what plastic it's using in the Wiltopia and other recycled sets?
Title: Re: Wondering if Geobra will follow LEGO (no recycled plastic)
Post by: Rasputin on September 27, 2023, 14:13:13

Has Playmobil stated what plastic it's using in the Wiltopia and other recycled sets?

That’s what I was wondering as well  , the Wiltopia . I thought they had a claim of a certain percentage of “post consumer products” ?

Recycled never made sense to me, just buy quality that lasts and pass it down for generations
Title: Re: Wondering if Geobra will follow LEGO (no recycled plastic)
Post by: Ismene on September 28, 2023, 05:39:56
That’s what I was wondering as well  , the Wiltopia . I thought they had a claim of a certain percentage of “post consumer products” ?


They do. I don't remember the exact percentage.

They should probably take a look at some of their packaging if they want to trim waste.
Title: Re: Wondering if Geobra will follow LEGO (no recycled plastic)
Post by: Rasputin on September 28, 2023, 05:45:11
They do. I don't remember the exact percentage.

They should probably take a look at some of their packaging if they want to trim waste.

Are you talking about the 12”x 10”x 24” box’s that have just a few parts in them all individually bagged , then Amazon puts them in an even bigger box to ship them  :hmm:

It’s the German air we’re purchasing that’s in those blue box’s
Title: Re: Wondering if Geobra will follow LEGO (no recycled plastic)
Post by: collectobart on October 07, 2023, 22:18:23
That’s what I was wondering as well  , the Wiltopia . I thought they had a claim of a certain percentage of “post consumer products” ?

Recycled never made sense to me, just buy quality that lasts and pass it down for generations

Wiltopia is made of 80% recycled refrigerator plastics. That is the reason also for some of the off the mark colors typical for Wiltopia, they are ussually less saturated because refrigerator plastic already is full of white pigments, no matter what amount of different pigments you add, you'll always end up with a pastel effect.
Title: Re: Wondering if Geobra will follow LEGO (no recycled plastic)
Post by: Rasputin on October 09, 2023, 15:29:08
Interesting ,

I suspected something was not typical with the use of old parts recycling and the newly advertised “post consumer products” campaign

In paint when you add a bunch of random colors together you get a random color that’s quite ugly. You can’t just add more color pigment additive  to correct it as there is a maximum amount of pigment you can add before the paint is a useless quality

I’d imagine plastic is similar

Thanks for the info
Title: Re: Wondering if Geobra will follow LEGO (no recycled plastic)
Post by: Birdie on October 09, 2023, 16:53:32
Wiltopia is made of 80% recycled refrigerator plastics. That is the reason also for some of the off the mark colors typical for Wiltopia, they are ussually less saturated because refrigerator plastic already is full of white pigments, no matter what amount of different pigments you add, you'll always end up with a pastel effect.

This is really interesting. I can't get used to the faded colours...
Title: Re: Wondering if Geobra will follow LEGO (no recycled plastic)
Post by: Rasputin on October 10, 2023, 00:00:21
This is really interesting. I can't get used to the faded colours...

Ya, I’m not a big fan of that either

I also wonder about longevity
Title: Re: Wondering if Geobra will follow LEGO (no recycled plastic)
Post by: Klickteryx on October 11, 2023, 01:11:45

I also wonder about longevity
A product with the word 'wilt' in it doesn't suggest longevity. Why is it called this? Will we see rotopia and decaytopia in future? Because composting is not the same as recycling.
Title: Re: Wondering if Geobra will follow LEGO (no recycled plastic)
Post by: Rasputin on October 11, 2023, 12:10:13
A product with the word 'wilt' in it doesn't suggest longevity. Why is it called this? Will we see rotopia and decaytopia in future? Because composting is not the same as recycling.

Darn good question ….Wilt ?

 :lol: Decaytopia . Put your Playmobil in the compost bin and watch them melt away , oh the Germans have a wickedly dark sense of humor

Dissolve-topia
Title: Re: Wondering if Geobra will follow LEGO (no recycled plastic)
Post by: Rasputin on October 11, 2023, 12:13:44

WILT:

verb: wilt; 3rd person present: wilts; past tense: wilted; past participle: wilted; gerund or present participle: wilting
(of a plant, leaf, or flower) become limp through heat, loss of water, or disease; droop.
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Similar:
droop
sag
become limp
become flaccid
flop
wither
shrivel (up)
h
Opposite:
thrive
flourish
(of a person) lose one's energy or vigor.
h
Similar:
languish
flag
lose energy
become listless
feel weak/faint
droop
sag
h
Opposite:
perk up
noun
noun: wilt
any of a number of fungal or bacterial diseases of plants characterized by wilting of the foliage.
"these varieties are more resistant to aphids and wilt"
Origin

late 17th century (originally dialect): perhaps an alteration of dialect welk ‘lose freshness’, of Low German origin.
Title: Re: Wondering if Geobra will follow LEGO (no recycled plastic)
Post by: Nightlioness on October 11, 2023, 18:30:34
A product with the word 'wilt' in it doesn't suggest longevity. Why is it called this? Will we see rotopia and decaytopia in future? Because composting is not the same as recycling.

I think it's more like: Wild Topia, remove the D and put them together to create Wiltopia. The plastics will not rot nor decompose, it's still plastic. L
Title: Re: Wondering if Geobra will follow LEGO (no recycled plastic)
Post by: Nightlioness on October 11, 2023, 18:33:01
Wiltopia is made of 80% recycled refrigerator plastics. That is the reason also for some of the off the mark colors typical for Wiltopia, they are ussually less saturated because refrigerator plastic already is full of white pigments, no matter what amount of different pigments you add, you'll always end up with a pastel effect.

I love the difference in colors, makes great collectors items :D
Title: Re: Wondering if Geobra will follow LEGO (no recycled plastic)
Post by: GrahamB on October 12, 2023, 07:01:36
I think it's more like: Wild Topia, remove the D and put them together to create Wiltopia. The plastics will not rot nor decompose, it's still plastic. L

I wondered if the name derived from a combination of 'Welt' (German: world) and 'utopia.'  Whatever the origin, its perhaps not the greatest name.
Title: Re: Wondering if Geobra will follow LEGO (no recycled plastic)
Post by: tahra on October 12, 2023, 07:07:35
Well, the colors are nice (though they match nothing)...

Except when they use different colors for the same animal, making ridiculous dolphins, and then blame it on the recycled thing. When they finally READ the darn messages :(

So, in a set where the big big huge deal is the animals... at least one of them is ridiculously messed up.
Title: Re: Wondering if Geobra will follow LEGO (no recycled plastic)
Post by: Klickteryx on October 12, 2023, 07:55:19
I love the difference in colors, makes great collectors items :D
Variety is always welcome for sure.
Title: Re: Wondering if Geobra will follow LEGO (no recycled plastic)
Post by: Birdie on October 12, 2023, 11:10:34
I think it's more like: Wild Topia, remove the D and put them together to create Wiltopia. The plastics will not rot nor decompose, it's still plastic. L

Yes I'm sure it's that. In German (and Dutch) the word 'wild' (same meaning as the English 'wild') is pronounced with a hard 't' at the end. So in German Wild-topia > Wiltopia makes perfect sense.
Title: Re: Wondering if Geobra will follow LEGO (no recycled plastic)
Post by: Oliver on October 12, 2023, 14:27:06
I also quite like the colours. It definitely looks a bit more 'sophisticated' than the regular line, so I could see it appealing to a certain set of parents (I once read an article that said that Playmobil's success was built upon making the sort of toys that middle class parents want their children to like  :lol:)
Title: Re: Wondering if Geobra will follow LEGO (no recycled plastic)
Post by: collectobart on October 12, 2023, 20:07:31
A product with the word 'wilt' in it doesn't suggest longevity. Why is it called this? Will we see rotopia and decaytopia in future? Because composting is not the same as recycling.

Wiltopia is something that mostly works for Germans. They had registered another name for it originally though: "Planimals", also a combo of "Planet" and "Animals".

As a side anecdote, Playmobil France was a bit in a panic when the Novelmore brand name was announced. Of course they read it in a bit of a French dialectic tongue and then it sounded nearly indistinguishable from "Nouvelle Mort".  French for "new death".
Title: Re: Wondering if Geobra will follow LEGO (no recycled plastic)
Post by: Ismene on October 13, 2023, 04:21:31
I'm not worried about the durability of the hard plastic. It's the printing and the rubbery parts that will likely go first.

I also quite like the colours. It definitely looks a bit more 'sophisticated' than the regular line, so I could see it appealing to a certain set of parents (I once read an article that said that Playmobil's success was built upon making the sort of toys that middle class parents want their children to like  :lol:)
Gotta appeal to the one holding the cash, and there's definitely a market for classy educational toys.

As a side anecdote, Playmobil France was a bit in a panic when the Novelmore brand name was announced. Of course they read it in a bit of a French dialectic tongue and then it sounded nearly indistinguishable from "Nouvelle Mort".  French for "new death".
Not the worst name for a knight theme.
Title: Re: Wondering if Geobra will follow LEGO (no recycled plastic)
Post by: GrahamB on October 13, 2023, 08:56:05
I also quite like the colours. It definitely looks a bit more 'sophisticated' than the regular line, so I could see it appealing to a certain set of parents (I once read an article that said that Playmobil's success was built upon making the sort of toys that middle class parents want their children to like  :lol:)

And a lot of grandparents.
Title: Re: Wondering if Geobra will follow LEGO (no recycled plastic)
Post by: Macruran on October 14, 2023, 17:05:48
WILTopia
Nouvelle Mort

Is PM predicting its own demise?
Title: Re: Wondering if Geobra will follow LEGO (no recycled plastic)
Post by: Birdie on October 14, 2023, 18:27:51
As a side anecdote, Playmobil France was a bit in a panic when the Novelmore brand name was announced. Of course they read it in a bit of a French dialectic tongue and then it sounded nearly indistinguishable from "Nouvelle Mort".  French for "new death".

Hahaha  :lol:
You'd THINK they'd make sure to ask someone who speaks the most common languages in Europe before deciding on these names.
Title: Re: Wondering if Geobra will follow LEGO (no recycled plastic)
Post by: Rasputin on October 14, 2023, 20:50:28
Perhaps a new topic

Some creative/odd theme names

With the creative talent in these parts I’m quite sure there will be some gems


Willy-mobil  for a jeep/truck adventure theme

Title: Re: Wondering if Geobra will follow LEGO (no recycled plastic)
Post by: Klickteryx on October 14, 2023, 23:35:40

Willy-mobil  for a jeep/truck adventure theme
There's a weed called 'wandering jew'. In more recent years that's been regarded as a problem name and some have called it 'wandering willy' instead which has its own set of problems but ones perhaps familiar with a previous American president with a penchant for podiums.
Title: Re: Wondering if Geobra will follow LEGO (no recycled plastic)
Post by: Rasputin on October 15, 2023, 01:46:09
That’s interesting that the “Wondering Jew”  is regarded  as a weed in your parts (are you in Germany perhaps)

In these parts (good ol USA) it’s a ornamental plant sold in the stores even though it’s so easy to propitiate

I’ve never heard it referred to as a “Wondering Willie”….but quite a silly name as well

I’d imagine someday Geobra will  have a gardening theme named….

Pedo-pals

They will be made of compressed dirt
Title: Re: Wondering if Geobra will follow LEGO (no recycled plastic)
Post by: Klickteryx on October 15, 2023, 06:16:19

 it’s so easy to propitiate


What sort of offerings do you typically give it?
Title: Re: Wondering if Geobra will follow LEGO (no recycled plastic)
Post by: Macruran on October 15, 2023, 06:21:21
 :lol:
Title: Re: Wondering if Geobra will follow LEGO (no recycled plastic)
Post by: GrahamB on October 15, 2023, 08:58:08
Then there is Jew's Ear (a fungus which grows on Elder), Creeping Jenny, Bastard Toadflax and several other plants which have names which are now questionable.