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Title: Princess Academy
Post by: playmovictorian on April 22, 2020, 07:59:16
Good morning dear Friends  :wave:

Has anyone seen this Princess Academy trailer yet :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oCyX7UusUBA

Will there be a toy release associated with these series ?

Title: Re: Princess Academy
Post by: GrahamB on April 22, 2020, 08:05:31
Thanks for pointing this out.

Barbie meets Hogwarts. Whilst many of the props look like PM, much of the scenery doesn't, which is a shame. And of course, the flexibility of the figures is most unlike PM.
Title: Re: Princess Academy
Post by: Oliver on April 23, 2020, 15:43:08
I assume this ties in with the re-design of the Princess line that comes out in September. I'm not sure if decent pictures are available anywhere, but its in the German catalogue online.

I only guessed this because I noticed it includes a bakers/Konditorie set which caught my eye, but like I say I haven't seen decent pictures. Other than that it looks to the the usual collection of furniture/horses etc in the usual selection of pinks and golds.....
Title: Re: Princess Academy
Post by: tahra on April 23, 2020, 16:07:49
Thanks for giving us the headsup!

Probably some parts with potential, right?

Title: Re: Princess Academy
Post by: Janilew on April 23, 2020, 16:26:03
I WAS RIGHT!!!!

(https://www.testsieger-vergleiche.de/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/playmobil_neuheit_2020_das_grosse_prinzessinenschloss.png)

I found this a while ago. And my first thought was an academy. HA HA!
The number is 70447!
Title: Re: Princess Academy
Post by: Oliver on April 24, 2020, 13:10:05
Thanks for the better quality picture Janilew!

I'm not sure there's much new - maybe some of the cakes and stuff? The oven would be fun but inevitably is pink and gold.

That said, based on the amount of them I see for sale on Gumtree/ebay, the Princess theme is pretty popular - I keep thinking about picking up one of the palace buildings second hand and giving it a spray paint
Title: Re: Princess Academy
Post by: tahra on April 24, 2020, 13:30:25
I'm not sure there's much new - maybe some of the cakes and stuff? The oven would be fun but inevitably is pink and gold.

Isn't it the same as the santa bakery one?
Title: Re: Princess Academy
Post by: Oliver on April 24, 2020, 14:16:46
Isn't it the same as the santa bakery one?

I knew it looked familier! My first thought was the pizza oven, but then I checked and it was different. I didn't get the Santa set, maybe I'll get the oven from there as spare parts (I'd actually assumed it was more integral to the Santa house)
Title: Re: Princess Academy
Post by: tahra on April 24, 2020, 14:21:56
I knew it looked familier! My first thought was the pizza oven, but then I checked and it was different. I didn't get the Santa set, maybe I'll get the oven from there as spare parts (I'd actually assumed it was more integral to the Santa house)

well, the "tube" on doesn't really settle well withouth the "house", but... I am sure something can be worked around it, when the time comes.
Title: Re: Princess Academy
Post by: Ismene on April 30, 2020, 12:07:16
Is this a princess academy or a pastry school? They seem unsure.
Title: Re: Princess Academy
Post by: Janilew on April 30, 2020, 12:28:48
Is this a princess academy or a pastry school? They seem unsure.

Academy for sure! Pastry could just be one of the classes like music.
Title: Re: Princess Academy
Post by: Oliver on April 30, 2020, 15:56:45
Is this a princess academy or a pastry school? They seem unsure.

I guess it's meant to be like a finishing school?
Title: Re: Princess Academy
Post by: Macruran on May 02, 2020, 19:33:16
It's where they learn to have their cake and eat it too. :bdaycake:
Title: Re: Princess Academy
Post by: Ismene on May 03, 2020, 09:42:29
I guess it's meant to be like a finishing school?

I think so, but in their future lives as rulers, are they supposed to go down to the kitchens periodically and whip up a croquembouche? I love baking and little Playmo desserts, but I think it's an odd choice for a pseudo-historical theme presumably set in one of those time periods in which it was a source of pride to not have your daughter cooking (since it meant you could afford to hire staff, and hopefully a skilled chef). In any case, baking in a hoop skirt looks super dangerous.
Title: Re: Princess Academy
Post by: Oliver on May 03, 2020, 10:21:38
I think so, but in their future lives as rulers, are they supposed to go down to the kitchens periodically and whip up a croquembouche? I love baking and little Playmo desserts, but I think it's an odd choice for a pseudo-historical theme presumably set in one of those time periods in which it was a source of pride to not have your daughter cooking (since it meant you could afford to hire staff, and hopefully a skilled chef). In any case, baking in a hoop skirt looks super dangerous.

 :lol: :lol: I hadn't thought of that! I guess the problem is that what upper-class women did learn (varying from 'almost nothing' to quite a lot) would be pretty limiting in terms of sets - 'Princess and Latin Tutor' etc.

Baking in a hoop skirt was super dangerous, numerous women burned to death after their crinolines caught fire
Title: Re: Princess Academy
Post by: Macruran on May 03, 2020, 15:56:05
Did noble ladies bake? Interesting question, which probably depended on the date and the location. Because, and you might be surprised to learn this, the word "lady" originally meant "bread-maker":

(https://i.imgur.com/hz7xeut.jpg)

"Lord" was likewise "bread-guarder":

(https://i.imgur.com/oDLPiGC.jpg)

In other words the aristocracy arose from people who were able to literally put bread on the table. It's not inconceivable that at some point in history, the noblest ladies were the hardest kitchen workers!  :viking:

I wouldn't be surprised if fancy baking became trendy among later iterations of the distaff nobility (think Marie Antoinette playing at peasant life), but I cannot say!

O0
Title: Re: Princess Academy
Post by: Ismene on May 04, 2020, 09:41:31
Did noble ladies bake? Interesting question, which probably depended on the date and the location. Because, and you might be surprised to learn this, the word "lady" originally meant "bread-maker":

(https://i.imgur.com/hz7xeut.jpg)

"Lord" was likewise "bread-guarder":

(https://i.imgur.com/oDLPiGC.jpg)

In other words the aristocracy arose from people who were able to literally put bread on the table. It's not inconceivable that at some point in history, the noblest ladies were the hardest kitchen workers!  :viking:

I wouldn't be surprised if fancy baking became trendy among later iterations of the distaff nobility (think Marie Antoinette playing at peasant life), but I cannot say!

O0

'OED rates it "not very plausible"' so I guess the etymology is still up for debate. My Anglo-Saxon dictionary is not offering further insights, thus I'm unclear if the lady is actually making the bread or if she is simply in charge of the food stores. OE garb is probably safer for baking than hoop skirts, in either case.
With the hoop skirts, this theme must be post-Old English. But unreasonable demands for skills are so very fairy tale (e.g. spinning straw into gold).
Title: Re: Princess Academy
Post by: Macruran on May 05, 2020, 01:47:00
'OED rates it "not very plausible"' so I guess the etymology is still up for debate.

Yes, but "not very plausible with regard to sense", and that is a matter of opinion. It makes perfect sense to me, especially as "lord" is undisputedly breadguard - the lady must have been heavily concerned with bread too! Maybe kneading, maybe serving, maybe buttering slices and smothering them with treacle.
Title: Re: Princess Academy
Post by: Ismene on May 07, 2020, 09:19:15
Yes, but "not very plausible with regard to sense", and that is a matter of opinion. It makes perfect sense to me, especially as "lord" is undisputedly breadguard - the lady must have been heavily concerned with bread too! Maybe kneading, maybe serving, maybe buttering slices and smothering them with treacle.

I could see managing and serving bread, like the queen passing around the drinking horn. I sincerely hope the lady wasn't expected to knead bread for all the underlings. They were more robust back then, but dang, she'd be buff!
Title: Re: Princess Academy
Post by: Oliver on May 07, 2020, 15:43:06
I'd assume that nobody who had a large enough household to be making their own bread would be involved themselves. I suppose there could be a linguistic origin, in the sense that 'managing the bread' might have stood in for 'managing the domestic household'?
Title: Re: Princess Academy
Post by: StJohn on May 07, 2020, 18:43:54
OED rates it "not very plausible"'

Where did you get that? I just checked The Concise Oxford Dictionary of English Etymology (https://doi.org/10.1093/acref/9780192830982.001.0001) (print 1996, online 2003) and found it agrees with Macruran:

Quote
LORD

master, ruler, †husband OE.; designation of rank XIV; peer of the realm XV. OE. hlāford, once hlāfweard, f. Gmc. *χlaib- LOAF + *ward- keeper, WARD1. The etymol. sense expresses the relation of the head of a household to his dependants who ‘eat his bread’. The word is, like LADY, a peculiarly Eng. formation. It was reduced to one syll. (XIV) by the fall of v in lōverd and contr. of the vowels.

Are you familiar with more recent etymological breakthroughs?

Best wishes
StJohn
Title: Re: Princess Academy
Post by: Macruran on May 08, 2020, 01:05:10
She's referring to the image I posted:

(https://i.imgur.com/hz7xeut.jpg)

It's to do with lady, not lord. The source of the image is the reliable Online Etymology Dictionary: https://www.etymonline.com/word/lady

Ismene is correct!  :2c:
Title: Re: Princess Academy
Post by: StJohn on May 08, 2020, 08:25:41
I see. Well, the OED may be sceptical, but their colleagues next door are happy to go with it (same source as my previous post):

Quote
LADY

†mistress of a household; (arch.) female ruler; (Our L.) the Virgin Mary OE.; woman of superior position (hence as a title); wife XIII; woman of refinement XIX. OE. hlǣfdige, f. hlāf LOAF + *-diġ- knead (cf. OE. dǣġe kneader of bread, female (farm) servant, dairy-woman; also DOUGH); like LORD, peculiar to Eng. The OE. g. hlǣfdiġan (ME. ladie) is repr. in Lady Day (ME. ure lefdi day XIII, i.e. ‘Our Lady's day’); so Lady chapel XV; also in plant-names, as lady smock XVI, and ladybird.
Title: Re: Princess Academy
Post by: Macruran on May 08, 2020, 13:44:12
Of course, which is why I dismissed the Oxford ED assertion of implausibility! Get those princesses baking, I say!  :bdaycake: :whip:
Title: Re: Princess Academy
Post by: Ismene on May 10, 2020, 09:23:23
Of course, which is why I dismissed the Oxford ED assertion of implausibility! Get those princesses baking, I say!  :bdaycake: :whip:

Be sure to upgrade them to the new princess arms first!
https://playmodb.org/cgi-bin/showpart.pl?partnum=p9146n1
Title: Re: Princess Academy
Post by: Macruran on May 10, 2020, 10:50:41
If they receive those arms they must produce only the largest cakes!
Title: Re: Princess Academy
Post by: Ismene on May 13, 2020, 06:58:59
If they receive those arms they must produce only the largest cakes!

But, of course! They must feed the entire kingdom!
Title: Re: Princess Academy
Post by: Oliver on August 06, 2020, 13:32:16
Just a bump, since the proper pictures are on the German site now. As anticipated, nothing very exciting (usual collection of furniture, in the usual collection of pinks and golds) - though the bag of gold has had a piping nozzle added and is now an icing bag!
Title: Re: Princess Academy
Post by: GrahamB on August 06, 2020, 13:52:09
You have good eyesight, Oliver, I can't see that piping bag on the Catalogue pictures. Is it shown somewhere else?
Title: Re: Princess Academy
Post by: Oliver on August 06, 2020, 14:24:47
The 'full' pages for the sets now are up on the German website (if that makes sense)

https://www.playmobil.de/schlosskonditorei/70451.html#imageMain2

Title: Re: Princess Academy
Post by: tahra on August 06, 2020, 18:08:59
Just a bump, since the proper pictures are on the German site now. As anticipated, nothing very exciting (usual collection of furniture, in the usual collection of pinks and golds) - though the bag of gold has had a piping nozzle added and is now an icing bag!

Good eye!  I wonder if the bag is normal? Probably, right? It would be nice.

What's with the cooking obsession!?  ???

Title: Re: Princess Academy
Post by: Oliver on August 07, 2020, 01:06:06
Good eye!  I wonder if the bag is normal? Probably, right? It would be nice.

What's with the cooking obsession!?  ???

I assume it must be normal, since surely if they were going to make a new mould it would be a bit more 'to scale'

I suspect cooking/baking sets are popular with kids - when I was a kid my Playmobil town always had a cafe, and I had to make all the food from Fimo (and even as an adult I have a soft spot for all those cakes and stuff!!)
Title: Re: Princess Academy
Post by: GrahamB on August 07, 2020, 11:46:33
Yes, that makes sense Oliver. That's an interesting adaptation of an existing part!
Title: Re: Princess Academy
Post by: sbblabotw on August 31, 2020, 00:57:50
All the instructions and part numbers are posted!

Fairy Tales Sets Released In 2020/09/15 (http://playmodb.org/cgi-bin/your_set_list.pl?setlist=70447,70448,70449,70450,70451,70452,70453,70454,70455;title=Fairy%20Tales%20Sets%20Released%20In%202020%2F09%2F15)
Title: Re: Princess Academy
Post by: GrahamB on August 31, 2020, 11:31:14
Woo hoo! Some nice parts there
Title: Re: Princess Academy
Post by: tahra on August 31, 2020, 20:40:27
All the instructions and part numbers are

Thank you :)
Title: Re: Princess Academy
Post by: sbblabotw on September 01, 2020, 12:45:39
Oh yes, and for those fond of the theme, the new Classic reissued set will be 9879 - Dream Castle (https://playmodb.org/cgi-bin/showinv.pl?setnum=9879), almost identical to 3019 - Dream Castle (https://playmodb.org/cgi-bin/showinv.pl?setnum=3019) from TWENTY-TWO YEARS AGO. (Goodness, I'm old.) This is when full skirts first made an appearance!
Title: Re: Princess Academy
Post by: Janilew on October 11, 2020, 21:45:11
Oh yes, and for those fond of the theme, the new Classic reissued set will be 9879 - Dream Castle (https://playmodb.org/cgi-bin/showinv.pl?setnum=9879), almost identical to 3019 - Dream Castle (https://playmodb.org/cgi-bin/showinv.pl?setnum=3019) from TWENTY-TWO YEARS AGO. (Goodness, I'm old.) This is when full skirts first made an appearance!

When I discovered this I couldn't contain myself!  :love: I've ALWAYS wanted to add this (not pink!) beauty to my ever growing castle collection! I see you said almost identical, but it looked the exact same to me. Or did I miss something? ???
Title: Re: Princess Academy
Post by: Janilew on October 19, 2020, 10:31:04
I just realized that the coloring while not compatible with its lookalike 5142, it does appear to be compatible with 4250; right down to the stickers.

(https://media.playmobil.com/i/playmobil/70447_product_box_back/Gro%C3%9Fes%20Prinzessinnenschloss?locale=de-DE,de,*&$pdp_product_zoom_xl$&strip=true&qlt=80&fmt.jpeg.chroma=1,1,1&unsharp=0,1,1,7&fmt.jpeg.interlaced=true)
(https://www.klickypedia.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/4250box.jpg)

I might get it just for that alone...that and the klickies....and the extra tower....and just because... :-[ I'm looking forward to seeing just how the two would fit. I need somewhere to place all that princess furniture I have already!
Title: Re: Princess Academy
Post by: Oliver on October 19, 2020, 17:12:28
I'd never noticed the stickers before - and as I alluded to in another thread, I can't imagine the mess I would make of applying those  :lol: :lol:

I do have a long term intention to buy one of these palaces and spray paint it