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Creative => How-To => Topic started by: Hadoque on January 29, 2018, 21:06:25

Title: Removing prints from the 3785 ACW / Western wagon´s cover
Post by: Hadoque on January 29, 2018, 21:06:25
The 1970s and 1980s Western Covered Wagons all come with the wagon-cover (hood?) in a kind of light-brown (or very-dark-beige);

Looking at the pictures of such a wagon past weekend, I once more thought about the specific colour of the wagon-cover.
I don´t like that it is almost the same light-brownish colour as the wagon´s wheels and some other parts. Too dark imho and the colour gets only darker with age.

I prefer the colour of the wagon-cover of the DS-version set 7648
http://playmodb.org/setpics/7/7648.jpg

So, I decided I wanted to equip my 3278 Covered Wagon from the 1980s with a lighter wagon-cover.
But I did not want to take away the lighter-coloured ones from my DS-wagons, which date back from about a decade ago.
And those lighter-coloured wagon-covers are since long not available anymore from DS, and extremely hard to find on ebay or such.

But, the wagon-covers from ACW-set 3785, which are basically the same colour as the cover from the DS wagon, are still to be regularly found as loose parts.
Only problem: They have a reasonbly large printing on both sides!

So, time to erase the printing from such one!
Title: Re: Removing prints from the 3785 ACW / Western wagon´s cover
Post by: Hadoque on January 29, 2018, 21:22:54
There are several ways to remove prints from Playmobil figures, as f.e. discussed here in Tahra´s thread;

http://www.playmofriends.com/forum/index.php?topic=14320.0

Removing larger prints is of course a bit more difficult (or a bit harder work) then removing relative small printing from klickies.
There are several ways to do it , I will only explain the method / products that I prefered  for the wagon-cover print-removal.

After the explanation, people are welcome to offer their comments and or suggestions and or to tell about  their own methods.  :)

Below the wagon-cover in question:

Title: Re: Removing prints from the 3785 ACW / Western wagon´s cover
Post by: Hadoque on January 29, 2018, 21:44:49
For removing small prints on klickies or their accessories, I usually use soft (white) pencil-erasers, on some occasions harder pen-erasers.

Working with pen-erasers goes a little faster then with softer pencil-erasers, but it might leave sometimes a few scratches, and also the shine disappears somewhat with the print, so the cleaned areas become a bit more dull.

For this larger wagon-cover print-removal, I decided to use a combination of pen-erasers, pencil-erasers and a "print-& varnish"-remover for plastics used in hobby-modelling.
(No extreme fine sandpaper like Hauden_Lukas sometimes uses, I keep that material aside for much finer work)

Below the products for this case...
Title: Re: Removing prints from the 3785 ACW / Western wagon´s cover
Post by: Hadoque on January 29, 2018, 21:56:35
I started first with the pencil-eraser (that is the blue end on the double-coloured gummie).
A bit of good & relative hard rubbing, and it worked quite good, printing was coming off well, even on the most dark-coloured areas.
Title: Re: Removing prints from the 3785 ACW / Western wagon´s cover
Post by: Hadoque on January 29, 2018, 21:57:16
When a lot of the printing was gone, I switched to a piece of somewhat softer (white) pencil-eraser gummie.
So I would have no chance of getting scratches on places where the printing was already reasonably gone.
Title: Re: Removing prints from the 3785 ACW / Western wagon´s cover
Post by: Hadoque on January 29, 2018, 22:05:56
To remove the last & sometimes hardest bits, and to go over it entirely to have every little spot removed, I used the fluid print-remover for plastics.
It says "Druck- und Lackentferner" on the label, so it most probably also whipes away (somewhat) of the varnish of the plastic.
But Playmo is not that shiny anyway. And I´ll come back to the topic of getting the shine back further down in the thread.

This product comes in a small bottle. One should use it carefully, because it is probably toxic (though there is no warning on the flask).
So best in a ventilated room (window open) and with a mouth-cover.

Don not inhale the vapour!
And certainly do not drink it, even if you are very thirsty, or when having accidentally swallowed ink before.  ;D


Take a clean piece of cloth, and put some drops of the print-reomver on it.
Wipe hard & long enough and everywhere over the (remaing) printing. If necessary, add more drops of the fluid on the piece of cloth.

It might also be a good idea to wear plastic house-hold gloves on your hands when using this product.
Title: Re: Removing prints from the 3785 ACW / Western wagon´s cover
Post by: Hadoque on January 29, 2018, 22:18:17
For rubbing in edges between higher & lower surfaces (or in corners or such), I used the blunt tip of an old dining-knife wrapped in the cloth.

I didn´t wear gloves and so I also sometimes just used my fingernails with the thin cloth to rub in the difficult to reach areas on the wagon-cover surfaces. So my hands came in contact directly with the print-remover on the cloth, not everyone will find that a good idea.
Title: Re: Removing prints from the 3785 ACW / Western wagon´s cover
Post by: Hadoque on January 29, 2018, 22:21:27
And here is the result, all printing gone!
Title: Re: Removing prints from the 3785 ACW / Western wagon´s cover
Post by: Hadoque on January 29, 2018, 22:28:17
And here is the result, all printing gone!

At one side at least, then I still had to remove the same print on the other side of the wagon-cover   8}
So I took a break and went for a smoke...
I had been working in the veranda, and when I got back it was already getting a bit dark outside.
Title: Re: Removing prints from the 3785 ACW / Western wagon´s cover
Post by: Hadoque on January 29, 2018, 22:30:54
So, same procedure all over for removal of the print on the second side...

Second pic below shows the point where I switched again from the pen-& pencil-erasers to the Plastic Print Remover bottle.
Title: Re: Removing prints from the 3785 ACW / Western wagon´s cover
Post by: Hadoque on January 29, 2018, 22:36:55
And here the result, all printing gone on the 2nd side too!  :yippee:
Title: Re: Removing prints from the 3785 ACW / Western wagon´s cover
Post by: Hadoque on January 29, 2018, 22:43:53
As said earlier, with use of the pen-eraser gum - and certainly with the print-remover bottle that also is designed to remove varnish, at least according to the label -  the plastic has become a bit dull. Not that much, but it is not as shiny anymore as it was.

So, first a bit of cleaning with a mix of kitchen-products (cleaners) and water.

Drying  the plastic with a clean piece of cloth or with kitchen-paper, and in doing so rubbing good & long enough will (usually) already bring a bit of the shine back.
Title: Re: Removing prints from the 3785 ACW / Western wagon´s cover
Post by: Hadoque on January 29, 2018, 22:48:52
And to bring a lot more of the shine back, one can use the "synthetic materials / plastics - polisher" from the same brand as the print-& varnish-remover.
Be attentive not to mix up both bottles, they look quite the same, just the label is different!
Title: Re: Removing prints from the 3785 ACW / Western wagon´s cover
Post by: Hadoque on January 29, 2018, 22:51:48
The end-result of both sides of the wagon-cover after use of the above mentioned plastics-polisher:
Title: Re: Removing prints from the 3785 ACW / Western wagon´s cover
Post by: Hadoque on January 29, 2018, 22:55:33
Btw, don´t forget to clean the floor after use of pen- & pencil-eraser gums  ;)
Title: Re: Removing prints from the 3785 ACW / Western wagon´s cover
Post by: Hadoque on January 29, 2018, 22:59:21
Time to get out the box with covered Western-wagons.
The one on the right, that is the 1980s one with the brownish cover!
Title: Re: Removing prints from the 3785 ACW / Western wagon´s cover
Post by: Hadoque on January 29, 2018, 23:05:17
So, here she (he?) is, the covered wagon from set 3278.

Some probably like a lot the beige-brown colour of the cover.
But to me, I find a lighter colour better. That is one of the reasons why I already exchanged the original wheels with more modern ones (different axels needed for that), the colour of the cover-colour almost matched the wheel-colour.
Title: Re: Removing prints from the 3785 ACW / Western wagon´s cover
Post by: Hadoque on January 29, 2018, 23:08:09
Hup, here is the wagon equipped with the cover from the ACW-wagon with the prints gone  :)
Title: Re: Removing prints from the 3785 ACW / Western wagon´s cover
Post by: Hadoque on January 29, 2018, 23:11:14
Here the newly equipped one (left) together with the DS-version 7648 (right).

I might have polished a bit too much, the wagon-cover now looks even brighter then the one from the DS-wagon  ;D

That´s it!  :wave:
Title: Re: Removing prints from the 3785 ACW / Western wagon´s cover
Post by: The_Mad_Hadder on January 30, 2018, 00:19:05
Job well done and thank you for sharing. BTW love how you put the bit about the gloves and wearing them after you state to apply the varnish remover Lol
Title: Re: Removing prints from the 3785 ACW / Western wagon´s cover
Post by: tahra on January 30, 2018, 08:41:41
Thank you for the detailed tutorial, Hadoque!

I would like to get that "removal fluid".... 

(I have no issues with the original wagon cover - except for variety)