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Title: Building Pizzerias with Steck
Post by: Tiermann on July 24, 2016, 16:46:17
This discussion started buried int he 20% Sale thread and I wanted to bring it out where it could be more easily found. The question is how to use the Pizzeria add-ons without having to buy the modern shop building. I've done it twice using Steck system, both based on the bakery set but customized some in each case.

First here is the version using the Bakery as a double wide by double wide building. For non-Steck users the Steck system measurement we use are based on the standard castle wall width. The front of a Steck Bakery building with the big shopfront that opens is two standard walls wide, as are most of the white 'fachwerk' (Tudor stick and plaster style) building sides.

(https://c2.staticflickr.com/6/5735/23300749433_9b58141bde_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/Bv1r2c)Santa Town 2015 no19 (https://flic.kr/p/Bv1r2c) by Tim (https://www.flickr.com/photos/71879015@N00/), on Flickr

The front as you see has the sign stuck on with blue tack as well as an adapted menu board. I am showing the back of this row of buildings so you see the construction. Specifically I have used the brown corner pieces from the Sheriff's office set to make the back wall a regular double wide open wall. There is a version of open wall that includes the corners in the right manner but it doesn't allow the easy access that the normal double wide open wall does.

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The side walls are both solid with no windows, allowing maximum space for the interior.
Title: Re: Building Pizzerias with Steck
Post by: Tiermann on July 24, 2016, 16:50:00
Interior, note I have changed the oven so the smaller grill is on the bottom on this one, I add an additional one on top in my other version of this.

(https://c1.staticflickr.com/2/1479/23902324656_541ee8e8b5_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/CqaEnN)Santa Town 2015 no57 (https://flic.kr/p/CqaEnN) by Tim (https://www.flickr.com/photos/71879015@N00/), on Flickr

(https://c5.staticflickr.com/2/1538/23820125892_8401721c39_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/ChUnxJ)Santa Town 2015 no58 (https://flic.kr/p/ChUnxJ) by Tim (https://www.flickr.com/photos/71879015@N00/), on Flickr

(https://c6.staticflickr.com/6/5683/23301652133_0f163c67aa_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/Bv64mZ)Santa Town 2015 no59 (https://flic.kr/p/Bv64mZ) by Tim (https://www.flickr.com/photos/71879015@N00/), on Flickr

ALso this version combines Pizza with Rotisserie Chicken, so you see the equipment for that as well.
Title: Re: Building Pizzerias with Steck
Post by: Tiermann on July 24, 2016, 16:59:08
The other version is 2 wide by 4 long. In this case it was incorporated into a larger building but could easily be done this way as a stand alone.
One end is again the bakery wall.

(https://c1.staticflickr.com/8/7564/15886712760_d8d8eca62d_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/qcRydG)Santa Castle 2014 no36 (https://flic.kr/p/qcRydG) by Tim (https://www.flickr.com/photos/71879015@N00/), on Flickr

The interior is 4 wide, allowing a seating area in one half and the cooking area in the other.

(https://c6.staticflickr.com/8/7501/15888180637_41bc521e6e_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/qcZ5yV)Santa Castle 2014 no28 (https://flic.kr/p/qcZ5yV) by Tim (https://www.flickr.com/photos/71879015@N00/), on Flickr

The construction makes use of the three way connector in brown that comes from 3716 farm or 3775 pony ranch building. Like the brown corner it matches nicely with the fachwerk wall colors. 3-Way connectors are commonly available in the grey stone castle style, it's the most commonly included connector in castle sets so you could easily use that instead. As you see one long wall is two double wide open, one end wall is hte bakery window, the other long wall is solid in the kitchen part and has the door and window entry piece in the seating area, and the final end wall is again solid - though it could have been the two window wall which is actually easier. I again used the brown corners to allow the solid wall on the end.



Title: Re: Building Pizzerias with Steck
Post by: Tiermann on July 24, 2016, 16:59:48
Interiors

(https://c8.staticflickr.com/8/7487/15454283183_35842bb395_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/pxDeYk)Santa Castle 2014 no30 (https://flic.kr/p/pxDeYk) by Tim (https://www.flickr.com/photos/71879015@N00/), on Flickr

(https://c4.staticflickr.com/8/7497/15454282403_8e6a1c6908_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/pxDeJT)Santa Castle 2014 no29 (https://flic.kr/p/pxDeJT) by Tim (https://www.flickr.com/photos/71879015@N00/), on Flickr

Title: Re: Building Pizzerias with Steck
Post by: Tiermann on July 24, 2016, 17:01:21
I've combined together a bunch of parts form various sets here. The sink is from the vacation house for instance.

(https://c6.staticflickr.com/8/7508/16072058381_f1193495b9_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/quev1R)Santa Castle 2014 no35 (https://flic.kr/p/quev1R) by Tim (https://www.flickr.com/photos/71879015@N00/), on Flickr

The oven here is a double oven, where I've taken a second smaller oven so I can have one below and one on top.

(https://c1.staticflickr.com/8/7550/15451670424_1881101c50_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/pxpRhL)Santa Castle 2014 no34 (https://flic.kr/p/pxpRhL) by Tim (https://www.flickr.com/photos/71879015@N00/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Building Pizzerias with Steck
Post by: Tiermann on July 24, 2016, 17:02:50
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/8/7536/15886690240_cbfd30dc53_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/qcRrwq)Santa Castle 2014 no33 (https://flic.kr/p/qcRrwq) by Tim (https://www.flickr.com/photos/71879015@N00/), on Flickr

(https://c4.staticflickr.com/9/8641/16072034451_3966b0f36f_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/quenUg)Santa Castle 2014 no32 (https://flic.kr/p/quenUg) by Tim (https://www.flickr.com/photos/71879015@N00/), on Flickr

(https://c8.staticflickr.com/8/7469/15888187727_53e3bd57b2_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/qcZ7Fa)Santa Castle 2014 no31 (https://flic.kr/p/qcZ7Fa) by Tim (https://www.flickr.com/photos/71879015@N00/), on Flickr

Title: Re: Building Pizzerias with Steck
Post by: JLMatterer on July 24, 2016, 17:04:34
This is all pretty wonderful (pretty AND wonderful) - TX!  :love: So, excuse the ignorance, but are Steck buildings "just" the medieval-style ones? I wasn't sure (and am still not) exactly what Steck connatates. As usual, your set-ups are sublime & really inspire me, though I'm far from your creativity yet. My head's a-buzz with all the new ideas.

Title: Re: Building Pizzerias with Steck
Post by: Tiermann on July 24, 2016, 17:08:45
So that's it. Pretty simple for experienced Steck builders, but a nice project for people just starting out with the system. You can use commonly available grey castle parts in place of the brown corners and 3-way if that's what you have. If you don't have either it's worth a try through DS for them.
Brown 3-Way connector part number is 30 07 0830
Brown corner connector part number is 30 08 4050
3-way may not be available but the corner should be, it was in 7378 Sheriff's office add-on, and in the new Western Bank 6478 as well.

Let me know if you have any questions :)
Title: Re: Building Pizzerias with Steck
Post by: Tiermann on July 24, 2016, 17:11:04
Steck is a building system that was used in the old castle sets, and also in some other series such as Farm, Pony Ranch, and Western. The Victorian House is also a type of Steck but the proportions for walls are different so you don't see it integrated as much. I think there is a thread over at Klickywelt wit all the parts listed. I will go now and look for it.
Edit: Didn't find it? Someone more familiar there know if that in fact exists? If not we should do one here.
Title: Re: Building Pizzerias with Steck
Post by: JLMatterer on July 24, 2016, 17:30:22
Thank you, again. Yes, I have questions....  ;D The first being, I'm assuming you're acquiring all the parts other than connectors primarily by buying LOT of sets & breaking them down? My feeling is you can't get all the structure pieces through DS. So, I need to buy tailor & blacksmith shops while I can?  ??? And the others you mention....

Also, does pic Santa Castle 28 show a 2-story structure? If so, then that's amazing.  :confetti:

Looks like I need to get over my fear of pulling things apart & casting the pieces hither & thither.
Title: Re: Building Pizzerias with Steck
Post by: tahra on July 24, 2016, 17:34:13
So, I need to buy tailor & blacksmith shops while I can?  ??? And the others you mention....

YES.

There is never enough steck.

 ;D
Title: Re: Building Pizzerias with Steck
Post by: Tiermann on July 24, 2016, 17:44:46
Found it and the guide was here after all:

http://www.playmofriends.com/forum/index.php?topic=12856 (http://www.playmofriends.com/forum/index.php?topic=12856)
Could a mod please sticky that thread - it's important and has gotten lost. A big thank you to Wesley Meyers for the work on that.

Technically that is a 6 story building, three floors on the main part and then the flight control tower that's 6 stories tall.

(https://c1.staticflickr.com/8/7475/15451602464_813e5146ce_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/pxpv63)Santa Castle 2014 no22 (https://flic.kr/p/pxpv63) by Tim (https://www.flickr.com/photos/71879015@N00/), on Flickr

Pizza is in the building on the left in this shot:

(https://c1.staticflickr.com/8/7502/16073366432_509968fcf2_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/qumcRs)Santa Castle 2014 no51 (https://flic.kr/p/qumcRs) by Tim (https://www.flickr.com/photos/71879015@N00/), on Flickr

I would concentrate on the buildings that are being discontinued this year. Still available next year are the Western Station and the Tailor's House. New will be the Western Bank and the Potter's House. So in the current lineup in the US the Prison Tower and Blacksmith Shop are both on the cut list for Knights theme. The Saloon and Farm are both on the cut list for Western. The tan Western style buildings are their own thing thematically, but they are true Steck and combine with any other Steck parts.
Title: Re: Building Pizzerias with Steck
Post by: Pynedor on July 24, 2016, 18:20:31
Great use of new and old parts, Tiermann.

Could a mod please sticky that thread - it's important and has gotten lost. A big thank you to Wesley Meyers for the work on that.

Is that the thread you were looking for? It seems like that one is a guide for determining whether Steck pieces are reissued or original parts, which probably explains why some parts are missing from the list. Maybe a new one should be made with all parts and part numbers are you suggested. :)
Title: Re: Building Pizzerias with Steck
Post by: JLMatterer on July 24, 2016, 18:25:36
I would concentrate on the buildings that are being discontinued this year. Still available next year are the Western Station and the Tailor's House. New will be the Western Bank and the Potter's House. So in the current lineup in the US the Prison Tower and Blacksmith Shop are both on the cut list for Knights theme. The Saloon and Farm are both on the cut list for Western. The tan Western style buildings are their own thing thematically, but they are true Steck and combine with any other Steck parts.

My meager bank account will never, ever, forgive me for finding out all this. TX for the link & all the info/pictures. It's all very daunting, but I see my future Playmobil heading this way, so it's intimidating and prescient all at once.
Title: Re: Building Pizzerias with Steck
Post by: The_Mad_Hadder on July 25, 2016, 12:53:50


(https://c2.staticflickr.com/6/5735/23300749433_9b58141bde_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/Bv1r2c)Santa Town 2015 no19 (https://flic.kr/p/Bv1r2c) by Tim (https://www.flickr.com/photos/71879015@N00/), on Flickr

Tim,

The elves infront of the store with the Christmas wreath are just priceless with this whole set up.
Title: Re: Building Pizzerias with Steck
Post by: JLMatterer on August 27, 2016, 12:00:38
I'm on my way to a store 2 hours away just to get Steck buildings; it's all I think about now! I'm going to try to buy as much as I can over the next few whatever.... You all have inspired me. I hope to get 2 Medieval House with Barn & then construct a 3-story structure.
Title: Re: Building Pizzerias with Steck
Post by: playmofire on August 27, 2016, 14:47:39
I  missed this thread first time round, Tim.  Your creation is a wonderful use of Steck and beautifully detailed.  The idea of staggering the buildings side by side is quite breathtaking and will offers possibilities for me with my ,ow profile Steck buildings.
Title: Re: Building Pizzerias with Steck
Post by: tahra on August 27, 2016, 14:58:58
I'm on my way to a store 2 hours away just to get Steck buildings; it's all I think about now! I'm going to try to buy as much as I can over the next few whatever.... You all have inspired me. I hope to get 2 Medieval House with Barn & then construct a 3-story structure.


 ;D  There is never enough steck!  :P
Title: Re: Building Pizzerias with Steck
Post by: JLMatterer on August 27, 2016, 20:38:40

 ;D  There is never enough steck!  :P

LOL. I did indeed get two more Medieval House with Barn; he has just one left, & he's holding it for me, along with his last Medieval Museum, to pick up next week. After that I start working on getting the castles he has.
Title: Re: Building Pizzerias with Steck
Post by: tahra on August 27, 2016, 20:44:47
LOL. I did indeed get two more Medieval House with Barn; he has just one left, & he's holding it for me, along with his last Medieval Museum, to pick up next week. After that I start working on getting the castles he has.

After having some steck, it is probably more efficient (price wise) to get lots of it - if they appear there...
Title: Re: Building Pizzerias with Steck
Post by: Oliver on September 03, 2016, 20:38:48
My meager bank account will never, ever, forgive me for finding out all this. TX for the link & all the info/pictures. It's all very daunting, but I see my future Playmobil heading this way, so it's intimidating and prescient all at once.

If you're wanting to get the best bang for your buck, I personally think it's best to look at what parts are the hardest to find. So, I don't think that the Prison Tower is worth getting (in the UK it's £47.50 - I bought the large castle 3666 for about £50 on ebay) - but the balcony on it is beautiful and I've not seen it on any sets for years (I'm no Steck expert though), so I ordered a few of them from Direct Service, which I think was about £2.
Title: Re: Building Pizzerias with Steck
Post by: Giorginetto on December 03, 2016, 12:30:54
Excellent stuff ! I am so pleased Steck have made a come back , they are the bet system playmobil ever produced. I hope they make some brand new medieval sets with steck soon !!  :love:
Title: Re: Building Pizzerias with Steck
Post by: Georgeag1972 on December 03, 2016, 18:43:34
Very nice job Tim. Steck buildings fits everywhere! All you need is a little bit fantasy and creativity. You have both of them and of course you have also, a great steck collection!!

George. :)
Title: Re: Building Pizzerias with Steck
Post by: Giorginetto on April 09, 2017, 19:42:36
..with all these steck houses that have been re-released I need to change my signature and ask for the holly of hollies playmo klicky : The classic, shiny armour  Nuremberg guard !!!!  :love: :love: :love:.. I will buy a  1000 on the spot when they are re-released , no kidding  ( as long as wife doesnt find out mind you  :lol:)