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General => Trains! => Topic started by: VicKlicktor on July 26, 2015, 02:05:51
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Hello everybody,
I just found a French site where three colors for pipes are shown. I don’t know if the far left pipes have yellowed a little bit or they are really in a variation of gray.
(http://i1164.photobucket.com/albums/q564/BiktopP/Tim/Pipeholder3_zpsiberbj2i.jpg) (http://s1164.photobucket.com/user/BiktopP/media/Tim/Pipeholder3_zpsiberbj2i.jpg.html)
I was not sure the brown pipes really existed until I saw the photo above. I always saw in ebay sets 4105 with gray pipes (Even the "Datenbank" at Klickywelt)
I have set 4105 with light gray pipes but we know the box shows brown ones. My set was pre-owned, that means the seller put add-on 7505 in the original box?
4105 and 7505 (http://playmodb.org/cgi-bin/your_set_list.pl?setlist=4105,7505;title=Your%20Set%20List)
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Hmmm..very good question. I've seen slight variances in colors such as the Western Cavalry showing the sword to be shiny on the box when the actual contents were a dull grey. I think this might have happened here. ??? Do the inside of the pipes have a different color than the outside? If so, they are probably discolored.
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This is my car, I've bought it from the Grootspoorclub in Den Haag, The Netherlands:
(http://s27.postimg.org/6mnlpzm3n/Rongenwagen_IMG_0007.jpg)
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This Youtube film explains the difference —> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PbqizRk8MHI
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This was such a great addition to the train theme. It has so many great uses beyond a pipe wagon. Sure wish geobra would slowly rerelease them all as they did with the red liquid wagon.
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This Youtube film explains the difference —> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PbqizRk8MHI
Thanks, but what about the two versions in gray? No doubt about pipes in brown were released in early versions from 1980 and gray ones in add-on 7505 later. The real question is whether a different gray tone was released in late versions of 4105…
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I don't think there are two different tones of gray on the picture. The first wagon catches the light, the second is a little more away from the lightsource. If the light is from a normal lamp, the light is a bit yellow, and that will give on a photographic picture the impression of another color of gray.
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I don't think there are two different tones of gray on the picture.
It is not me who says that, check the original post and other photos of the owner (page 393):
http://forum.e-train.fr/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=13507&hilit=attelage&sid=6d7f18a259905ff53197f92bfe649dbd&start=5880
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Than it must be discoloration due to exposure to the sun. A problem I also have with older Playmobil wagons, specially when they did run outside the house.
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There were only 2 colors of pipes:
grey (the »weathered« version is no extra color, it's yellowed by the sun) and brown.
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As Ras says, this wagon and the variants of it are very useful general purpose rail wagons. I have sox or so in various forms.
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??? Do the inside of the pipes have a different color than the outside? If so, they are probably discolored.
I could not look inside the pipes before because the pipes shown in first photo of this thread were not mine. I only had the lighter gray ones but I got the other two variants recently. Now, with the evidence I can confirm that there were three colors of pipes in set 4105: brown, lighter gray and gray.
No yellowed, no discoloration. They are just two different tones of gray.
(http://i1164.photobucket.com/albums/q564/BiktopP/4105/DSC04372_zpssyudih0x.jpg) (http://s1164.photobucket.com/user/BiktopP/media/4105/DSC04372_zpssyudih0x.jpg.html)
In real life the difference is quite obvious. It is like make a comparison of some Playmo dolphins or sharks that do have variants in gray.
Actually, there are three box versions in Playmobil Collector's Guide 1974-2009 , 3rd edition. I wanted to make a correlation between the boxes and the pipe colors but I got a 4th box version not shown in the guide. See below. So, I just can say that two different tones of gray did exist.
(http://i1164.photobucket.com/albums/q564/BiktopP/4105/DSC04396_zpsy5ygrzpo.jpg) (http://s1164.photobucket.com/user/BiktopP/media/4105/DSC04396_zpsy5ygrzpo.jpg.html)
(http://i1164.photobucket.com/albums/q564/BiktopP/4105/DSC04401_zpsdtvtmwdq.jpg) (http://s1164.photobucket.com/user/BiktopP/media/4105/DSC04401_zpsdtvtmwdq.jpg.html)
(http://i1164.photobucket.com/albums/q564/BiktopP/4105/DSC04381_zpshvvzvsow.jpg) (http://s1164.photobucket.com/user/BiktopP/media/4105/DSC04381_zpshvvzvsow.jpg.html)
No set number in box
(http://i1164.photobucket.com/albums/q564/BiktopP/4105/DSC04385_zpsfqpsbshf.jpg) (http://s1164.photobucket.com/user/BiktopP/media/4105/DSC04385_zpsfqpsbshf.jpg.html)
I got brown pipes in this box.
Outline number (and the legend "tracks not included" in 6 languages)
(http://i1164.photobucket.com/albums/q564/BiktopP/4105/DSC04390_zpsvk7arsyd.jpg) (http://s1164.photobucket.com/user/BiktopP/media/4105/DSC04390_zpsvk7arsyd.jpg.html)
I got light gray pipes
Outline number and no legend. Not shown in Collector's guide
(http://i1164.photobucket.com/albums/q564/BiktopP/4105/DSC04383_zpsluwt4m9m.jpg) (http://s1164.photobucket.com/user/BiktopP/media/4105/DSC04383_zpsluwt4m9m.jpg.html)
I got gray pipes
Black number (and the legend "tracks not included" in 6 languages)
I do no not have this box version but it is shown in Collector's guide.
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No yellowed, no discoloration. They are just two different tones of gray.
Maybe we just ought to keep searching so we might find the missing 48 tones accomplishing 50 shades of grey... 8-).
jj:
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Maybe we just ought to keep searching so we might find the missing 48 tones accomplishing 50 shades of grey... 8-).
jj:
Boom! Boom! :lol:
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I just wish they would rerelease the wagon in the future. It's not easy or affordable in the states :'( with all the stuff I have I do not think I have one of these. I stopped buying for now but it would be nice to inject more stock into the markets so I could perhaps buy some used someday :crossed: