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General => News => Topic started by: tonguello on July 24, 2015, 14:58:00
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Pics of series 10 and 11 had been around for months (I would say 5 months at least) are they really fake like everyone says, or leaked too soon and tried to be hushed? :hmm: :hmm:
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JIC
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That disgusting image are fake, confirmed by playmobil.
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Well I wouldn't mind a female painter and a woman scientist.
Edit: and that Dutch girl with the buckets!
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That disgusting image are fake, confirmed by playmobil.
Really? at the PCC?
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Those female figures look a lot better in general, more action oriented instead of pink princesses.
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Really? at the PCC?
And on THAT site.
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despite's tahra hate for bullfights, i think the bullfighter is the best figure.
maybe a portuguese bullfighter on a horse could also be done.
the clothes are nice and germans love horses.
the tin-man is also wonderful.
the wizard of oz is one of my favourite movies and if the lion and the straw men and all the witches and, of course, dorothy and toto.
if there isn't a problem with copyrights it would be wonderful.
a little red riding hood has alrady been done
hansel & gretel i seem to recall were kind of done too.
i also heard - in here, in playclicks, in klickywelt, i don't remember - that these were fakes and that geobra offcially said so - where, i also don't remember.
let's wait and see.
something a collector has some trouble doing...
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maybe a portuguese bullfighter on a horse could also be done.
NO. Like we are not ashamed enough. Our country is a disgrace.
I'll shut up now, so I don't get any more furious. Friday night - bad time for a fit and all.
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Our country is a disgrace.
Mine too! Just look at the good bits, Tahra. ;D
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Some stories need a villain too.
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Assuming they are fake, why would someone do that? This is so obscure why would they bother? My bet is that they are real, regardless of what PMB supposedly said.
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That disgusting image are fake, confirmed by playmobil.
Btw,why is that image disgusting? It's not that the figures are lewd or obscene.
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I think quite a few of us feel bullfighting is disgusting and not suitable to be represented in toys. Ergo, these pictures are fakes because PM would not include a figure as likely to cause offence as this one does. Further proof, as someone else pointed out in another topic on this same theme, comes in the fact that set numbers 5968, 5969, 7211 and 7212 have already been used. So it's not a particularly good fake.
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Too bad, these are some of the best. In my opinion there are way more offensive figures, basically any solider to me is more offensive than a traditional bullfighter. Some one who's job it is to harm other humans for collective gains, usually religious is lower than killing a bull in a show to eat. Then there is klickies like Napoleon.......
I would have bought two cases of these
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I think quite a few of us feel bullfighting is disgusting and not suitable to be represented in toys. Ergo, these pictures are fakes because PM would not include a figure as likely to cause offence as this one does. Further proof, as someone else pointed out in another topic on this same theme, comes in the fact that set numbers 5968, 5969, 7211 and 7212 have already been used. So it's not a particularly good fake.
The hooded executioner figure could be considered disgusting, as could many of the soldier, knight, pirate, western, etc etc etc under your definition. And then there's Napoleon. How many thousands were killed in those wars. That's not offensive? Were there to be sufficient outrage over the bullfighter, then maybe PMB would pull the figure. But the fact that presently it's there doesn't mean that it's fake. As it is, it's not a bull fighting set. It's just one figure. Also, the fact that the numbers have been used before is not unique. A lot of numbers have been used more than once Also, given that this is certainly a preview of these lines they could be mock-ups with an official number not yet released. I am betting that these are real.
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Just give the fellow a different hat and use that red cloth as a tablecloth or something and you have yourself a nice clickie that can be used for many purposes.
I agree about the executioner still being the darkest clicky they released. Their role is to simply behead other people. But it works for storytelling.
A bull fighter could just as well be used for storytelling, to show all the things wrong with bull fighting. I mean, that hooded executioner will definatly not be a hero in my stories. I'd assume that typically kids would use that clicky as a henchman to the bad guy and that the brave hero gets resqued or resques a friend before the executioner can kill them.
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Opinions...
I don't find the executioner disgusting... very useful fellow - on a non-playmoworld that is - all my klickys are good ;D
That murdering-sadistic-coward (trying to be polite, not that there are fitting words in any language) would beat even the religion propaganda sets in my book (and would make the executioner needed >:D ). Which are the most unproper sets. It would be a new level of low.
And there WAS outrage, when that disgusting image popped - both at THAT site and on the pcc.
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not outraged about the zoo workers who lock up huge animals in tiny cages for the chance to sell tickets for their entire depressing lives?
People used to be so outraged about the working animals at circuses too.
All the war horses that are in the medival theme, just to be sent to slaughter for a noble knight?
There are a lot more mistreated animals than that cow at the end of the bullfighters lance, just think how the bull feels who got all dressed up in the alpine theme
How about all the horses and bulls who are worked to death pulling carts?
Yes everyone has an opinion
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Gladiators and arena animals.
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Only the playmo ants, flies and bats are safe :P
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I've seen a number of Alpine cows. They seem pretty chill about their gear.
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Pretty sure there have also been quite a few poachers and hunters sets that often included rare or even endangered animals.
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Man even dolphins get netted
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Guys please keep on track ... and respectfully.
Thanks :)
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Guys please keep on track ... and respectfully.
Thanks :)
So, this issue really is are these real or not? While not having anyway of knowing until they either come out, or don't, I still think that they are.
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I would say no, not real. Too many useful parts ;)
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Might not be real since the scale is off on some characters. They are always depicted on the same scale but not here, most noteable with the lady that has the huge headdress.
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Even if it is a fake, I would be very interested in knowing who did it. There are some good designs there, and it's not sloppily done.
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Well, the discussion is now closed, as PCC members can see in the next catalogue (others have to wait until 7th August). These are NOT mystery figures series 10 and 11.
According to that very question being asked they said that Series 10 is in the Pipeline but will be released at a later date.
OK, perhaps I was a bit hasty.... :-[
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the series are never revealed in the first glance of the new catalogs but sometime later. ;)
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Yeah Mystery series aren't released until the Spring catalog at Toy Fair.
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THERE'S STILL A CHANCE
A pith helmet is pretty desireable. Until absolutely proven otherwise I will believe it is real.
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There is not a single knight figure in these two batches, thats actually what makes it most suspicious to me. There always is one medieval knight or soldier of a sort.
Not having that once might happen, but twice in a row is really not going to happen I think.
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THERE'S STILL A CHANCE
A pith helmet is pretty desireable. Until absolutely proven otherwise I will believe it is real.
You can still order these pith helmets through DS!!!
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:(o):
Part number?
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Definitely fake, there are spelling errors in the German language...and the fact that some words are capitalized at the beginning of the line and some not...points into the same direction: fake
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http://playmodb.org/cgi-bin/textsearch.pl?sortby=partnum&page=1&text=pith&lang=all&pics=on (http://playmodb.org/cgi-bin/textsearch.pl?sortby=partnum&page=1&text=pith&lang=all&pics=on)
30276990 is 20p. How many do you want?
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A dozen please! GrahamB I will be naming my firstborn after you.
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Definitely fake, there are spelling errors in the German language...and the fact that some words are capitalized at the beginning of the line and some not...points into the same direction: fake
That is another nail in the coffin for these being genuine then! Tonguello, why not start a poll on whether these are genuine or not?
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Series 10 is definitely fake, but unless you are a PCC member I cannot prove it until January!
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Playmobil clearly stated that long ago. GOOD.
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Too bad, the fakes are better in my opinion. Some nice looking new ones but there are more nice ones in the fakes.
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mystery solved ;D
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But the mystery of who did it and why remains.
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Well I quite like the real ones myself. Seems like the duopacks are going to more than make up for any disappointments anyone might have with the figures though. ;)
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But the mystery of who did it and why remains.
Why? To drive us collectors nuts, as if that takes a lot of pushing :P
It happens every year, not with the Fi?ures, but any theme.
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Every year? I was unaware of this phenomenon.
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Every year? I was unaware of this phenomenon.
Yes, at about the same time as the RASPUTIN Mail Box Full season!
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A coincidence, or is he involved in this plot? :P
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Yes, at about the same time as the RASPUTIN Mail Box Full season!
LOL :lol:
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Series 10 is definitely fake, but unless you are a PCC member I cannot prove it until January!
So the private club knows that it's fake but can't prove it for 5 more months? Something doesn't sound right. Have the new series been previewed on the other foreign forums?
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So the private club knows that it's fake but can't prove it for 5 more months? Something doesn't sound right. Have the new series been previewed on the other foreign forums?
You paid to join this private club so why not just join the pcc and get it over with. You get a hat and a free gift worth the $12/year. Don't expect organization on the lame format. The best part is getting access to special sale exclusives
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My free gift was some sort of neck band for suspending an ID tag.
The sale is the only advantage.
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Do people outside of Europe get access to the special sales? And what sorts of things are in the sale? Or do you have to join to find out? :lol:
The one thing that would make me join the PCC in a heartbeat would be access to the German parts department.
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You don't get access to the parts dept. Special sale is mostly exclusive sets like you would see talked about otherwise. The grey four way Steck connector is a club exclusive as well.
The annual gift is a figure that they send out to all paid members who are in the club as of October first. We don't know what it is until they are about to send it out. Last year was the red Marco Polo figure, the year before was the all white Color style knight.
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It's pretty cool yes. Its pretty much exclusive sets that are normally issued by companies or specific countries that are made available through the special sale when possible. Its not always possible for them since they need a good amount of them.
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Official real photos for series 10 have been released.There's one figure with a double faced woman who wears pyjamas and holds a mirror.Her hair is like the double faced rockstar from series 2,but in pink-fuscia colour.
There's also a man with high legs who is also double faced.
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Well, I don't need, nor would I wear a PMB cap, and some of the specials don't interest me that much. As far as sales, TRU, and PMB often have sales of the stuff I am interested in. I do like to know what's going on as it happens, but that is certainly not worth $12 a year. So yeah, I wait it out.
But what honks me about this is that I've probably been buying and/or collecting this line since the late 70s in Germany,before it was ever even known here. And I've seen all the US companies come and go, but now because I'm not going to pay for something that doesn't intrigue me, I get the cold shoulder. Honestly, this whole PCC stuff almost made me get rid of all my stuff a year or so ago in disgust. But it's a shame, if it's true, that those supposed mystery figures aren't the ones they are going to do. They were some of the best things I've seen in a while. Whoever created those should actually work for the company
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Well, I don't need, nor would I wear a PMB cap, and some of the specials don't interest me that much.
(...)
Well, I suppose I disagree with almost everything.
I think the PCC is a HUGE step in the right direction, in spite of all the issues (and they aren't few, but this is not the place, I guess). And that price, if anything is too low, imo.
The way they treat me sometimes makes me feel like quitting playmobil. It's a disgrace. I know I will NEVER get rid of all my precious klickys, but..
As to the disgusting figures, enough was said.
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but now because I'm not going to pay for something that doesn't intrigue me, I get the cold shoulder.
What do you mean by getting the cold shoulder?
The way I see it, before I was a PCC member I didn't know anything about sets that weren't announced officially yet. I know there was always Klickywelt leaking retail catalogue pictures, sure. But imho it's only natural that the company would try to prevent that from happening over and over again.
Now they ask €10 a year and send you a pretty neat exclusive figure in return (shipping + value alone is worth €10), and you get info about the new releases over half a year early. Plus they have created a way to ask questions to PM staff, and they actually do listen, answer, explain their views and strategies, etc... They do their best to make sure all PCC members get access to exclusive sets, which you would otherwise have to hunt over the internet and pay to get shipped to you. They even ask your opinion when they decide which collector sets to re-release, and actually take the results into account, and make the most-desired sets available again.
To make up for the fact that the discussion platform there is beyond frustrating, they even gave us permission to create a private board here, as a sort of extention to the PCC's paying-member board. That is pretty trusting and accommodating on their part.
How does that make them a bad company all of the sudden?
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To make up for the fact that the discussion platform there is beyond frustrating, they even gave us permission to create a private board here, as a sort of extention to the PCC's paying-member board. That is pretty trusting and accommodating on their part.
Ah yes - that was quite amazing! ;D
Now we can even blab to our hearts delight in a proper forum immediately!
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Indeed, I wasnt a member the first year but became one last year and am still quite happy about it, recently renewed my membership for the first time.
While I can't speak about upcomeing special sales, last year I got quite a few nice things which I did post in my new purchases thread.
I got the white knight, A play+give fleur de lis knight in gold armor, the newest knight christopher and some four way steck connectors. And Marco Polo for free.
And other than that its nice to be able to talk somewhat with Playmobil employees and they do listen to constructive feedback and have commented on it often enough.
Also nice to know a bit in advance what will be released to get a bit of an idea of expenses.
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But it's a shame, if it's true, that those supposed mystery figures aren't the ones they are going to do. They were some of the best things I've seen in a while. Whoever created those should actually work for the company
Amen.
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I suppose that one of my gripes is the 'loyalty' program that requires people to buy memberships for exclusive rights. Do other companies require people pay for their loyalty programs?
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I suppose that one of my gripes is the 'loyalty' program that requires people to buy memberships for exclusive rights. Do other companies require people pay for their loyalty programs?
Costco
Gas clubs
Golf clubs
Yacht club
Type of places
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And I will point out that the club charges an annual fee because we the collectors requested that they do so. When we were discussing the creation of the club in the initial test group there was concern about people joining just to get the club exclusives to sell and we voted in favor of charging a membership fee to help narrow it to people who are serious about Playmobil. The PCC isn't for just anyone who buys Playmobil it is for collectors and adult enthusiasts, children can't join on their own for the same reason. It is not a loyalty program, it is a Playmobil Collectors Club.
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^ What Tiermann said.
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To me the PCC membership is worth it. I realise living in Europe makes it easier to make use of all the benefits. The costs of the fee are no more than a small financial compensation for all they offer.
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REI also is paid membership and I get access to used gear sales. Lots of companies do it with great success and feed back. It's hard to pass on $5 keen saddles that have been worn once. I am quite happy to pay to play at all these establishments. Last month I bought a $2200 folding Alaskan style kayak...brand new but previously bought.. for $200. Great club as far as I am concerned. Geobras club is still in diapers but it's growing. I will stick it out and see where it goes.
As far as the fake series 10, very disappointed that it's true. I would have bought a few cases if they were real. They really look like they got some ideas from previous Lego seriess
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This has gone a little off track guys. :hmm:
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SO, series 11 guesses anyone? :lol:
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For season 11 they are going to have a princess, a fairy, a knight and a pirate.
Hard to be wrong when they have those in each batch. :P
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My best guess is for series 11 there will be 3-4 I really like right off the bat and a couple I think are pointless with the rest falling in between. When I actually get them I will end up liking more than I thought I would, but the pointless ones will still be pointless. Then about 3-5 years later I will suddenly need 4 or 5 of one of the pointless ones for a project because it's just perfect. :-\
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My best guess is for series 11 there will be 3-4 I really like right off the bat and a couple I think are pointless with the rest falling in between. When I actually get them I will end up liking more than I thought I would, but the pointless ones will still be pointless. Then about 3-5 years later I will suddenly need 4 or 5 of one of the pointless ones for a project because it's just perfect. :-\
YES this exact situation is why I really should just get a whole case of everything :lol:
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YES this exact situation is why I really should just get a whole case of everything :lol:
well, you gave good use to the blue knight! :D
I guess you wouldn't mind an army of them
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For me its mostly the tomato on a chain that bothers me about that blue knight.
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YES this exact situation is why I really should just get a whole case of everything :lol:
A really smart policy for a collector/customizer, only problem......is one case enough?
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The world is all that is the case.
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A really smart policy for a collector/customizer, only problem......is one case enough?
Good point