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General => What is this??? => Topic started by: cachalote on June 18, 2015, 19:55:54

Title: head "stuff"
Post by: cachalote on June 18, 2015, 19:55:54
:-[ this is not the usual do-you-have-any-idea-for-what-set-this-part-is.

:) i know where these images came from - it's playmobil's most recent "generation" of pirates.

??? what i don't know is what the "stuff" that is coming out from the head of these figures is.
??? any clues?

why is it present ia almost every recent pirate set?
why does it protrude from the figures heads, "travellng" through hair, bandadas and tricornes?
what is the phone number of playmobil's chief designer?
is it very difficult to buy rope anywhere in germany?
is there an extradition treaty between portugal and germany?
Title: Re: head "stuff"
Post by: tahra on June 18, 2015, 20:30:40
Well.. I like it :)

I suppose a couple of different designs would be good, but.. Anyways, easy enough to fix if you don't want them (or replace them)
Title: Re: head "stuff"
Post by: cachalote on June 18, 2015, 20:52:12
??? and why isn't there such well-i-like-it stuff in all the themes?

:) oh. look, it's a dolphin with a stick-where-you-can-hang-stuff coming out of his head!
well, you are being to dramatic: whatever we hang there can come off leaving just the stick.

:hmm: oh, look, there is another stick coming out of that playmo-baby's head!
8} and another form his belly!
:o oh, look, and another one form his back!

:'( oh, this is not nice anymore, what is happening to hour klickies?
i heard it was the chief designer idea and, when nobody insulted him, he felt free to hang sticjs in every set, everywhere!

oh, and how was that possible?

you know, people just didn't want to look rude at first, and then they thougth it would go away on its one, and then, when it didn't, it was too late and the chief designer had taken over the management of playmobil and forced everyone to say the sticks were great and a very nice idea, and now i heard people talking about putting sticks in the company's workers heads and if someone opposed he or she would disappear.

long live the stick/stuff!
we want the stick/stuff!

everyone not having a stick/stuff coming out of their heads will be forced to go and live in denmark, surrounded exclusively by legos.

long libe the stick/stuff!
we are the stick/stuff people! ;)
Title: Re: head "stuff"
Post by: Ismene on June 18, 2015, 21:11:42
I haven't seen those before or I wasn't paying attention. I sort of see where they were going with this, but it didn't quite get there.
Title: Re: head "stuff"
Post by: Baron Marshall on June 18, 2015, 22:19:52
I think the Johnny Depp pirate movies feature a lot of "let's dangle stuff from pirate hats" don't they?
Title: Re: head "stuff"
Post by: Macruran on June 19, 2015, 06:44:12
I don't know much about pirates but those things look wacky and inauthentic.

Dark times are upon us.
Title: Re: head "stuff"
Post by: cheng on June 19, 2015, 10:49:22
these hanging thingies will get lost and do they expect parents to order them from DS? when they made legs/arms with moulded-on armour, we thought it was to simplify manufacturing or avoid losing tiny parts...
Title: Re: head "stuff"
Post by: GrahamB on June 19, 2015, 14:55:33
Well, thank you cachalote for your manifesto on behalf of the Dangly Bits Party.

I hereby launch a rival party, the Hole in the Head Party. Not satisfied with sticks to dangle bits on (don't forget the Hawaiian hair stick for a flower), I wish to propose all klickies should henceforth have a hole in their heads to allow the addition of crowns, Indian feathers, strings of flowers, etc.  Since they have no brains to speak of, the addition of a hole in the head should pose no problems at all for the klickies or their designers!

Tahra, do you want to start an Equality of Arms Party to campaign for left wing (or arm) and right wing (arm) to be the same? Or perhaps a Stamp Out THAT Hair Party?

 :lol:
Title: Re: head "stuff"
Post by: tahra on June 19, 2015, 15:47:32
I have no issues with the hawaiian hair - it is, IMO, a nice addition, and also quite easy to "fix". I think the same might be true for this new pirate peg-thingies. And I do like them (duh, skull.)

Holes are very different matter. While the new (GORGEOUS, rubbery) indian hair works fine with no feather, that DREADFUL "queen hair" is completely useless without the crown. Worse, it's not that great with it to begin with. Would be quite pretty without that hole - as we can see with the other versions.

As to wings, I don't thing that'd work. Common arms (that is, basically all but the puffy egyptian-like sleeves) should be all alike yes. The left/right arm thing adds basically nothing, and you lose a lot.

Let's not even start with the female/male all different skinny arms, ok?  >:(  >:(  >:(
Title: Re: head "stuff"
Post by: cachalote on June 19, 2015, 22:57:50
you are welcome grahamb.
... but i have an amendment to your proposal - the holes would also be mandatory on the designers's skulls.
a long stick would be needed in this case - of course.
a small one would be lost in the void that fills the inside of playmobil designers' skulls.
who are these people?
where did they attend school?
how were they chosen?
is it that hard to work in the middle of "romantisches franken?
... wait a minute - that might be the problem - no good designer would like to work in such an idylic place (to many trees, too many castles).
and even if a desperate one would - god knows why - the "design by comitee" policy (http://www.playmofriends.com/forum/index.php?topic=3064.0) would no doubt drive him mad in a few weeks.
;)
Title: Re: head "stuff"
Post by: GrahamB on June 21, 2015, 10:02:18
- the holes would also be mandatory on the designers's skulls.


Yep, that's covered in my manifesto!

the addition of a hole in the head should pose no problems at all for the klickies or their designers!
Title: Re: head "stuff"
Post by: cachalote on June 21, 2015, 14:13:41
:-[ i am sorry grahamb, i thought you meant easy for the designers to MAKE holes in klickies' skulls.
i am glad we think alike (like great minds usually do).

:hmm: i decided to investigate the pirates of the caribbean dangling stuff.
there's even a web site explaining all jack sparrow's clothing items - http://jacksparrowcostuming.wikispaces.com/Wig+and+Bandanna
apparently keith richards - http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-448276/Keiths-daddy-bad-hair-days.html - had a decisive influence in the dangking-stuff-from-one's-head-no-matter-what-everything-goes.

:( if playmobil wanted to "copy" this trend without paying royalties (uuhhh, aren't they se clever) they could at least understand its basics.
"stuff" hangs from inside the hair - not outside from it.
when "stuff" appears mixed wit a bandana or tricorne, it is still attached to the hair.
it's not "glued" outside.
it's not a coat hanger.

:) playmobil designers have done so good in the past - the earrings and the beards are a fine example.
it's difficult to go more "rocaille" at playmo-scale.
if you can't quite understand what it is from 25 cm (10 inches) away, maybe it's not worth it?
could this be a rule for all playmo stuff?
Title: Re: head "stuff"
Post by: Hadoque on July 06, 2015, 05:54:13
One or two pirates with such a dingle-dangle thingie hanging from their hats/heads would have been fine, but they really overdid it and indeed almost every pirate figure from the new sets (including the DS add ons) has one... ::)
Maybe they started from the viewpoint that young kids will be more attracted to the klickies by all these gold/silver-coloured head/hat-hangers.
Generally, to my taste several of the new pirates have too much detail, and their newest ship has too few detail.
Title: Re: head "stuff"
Post by: cachalote on July 06, 2015, 11:33:57
:'( you are so right ras.
ships are becoming increasingly "abstract" and "poor".
pirates and soldiers are becoming increasingly "figuraive" and "rich".
8} sometimes it seems that 2 different companies are responsible for both families of sets.
if this continues maybe one of these days the figures won't fit in the boats.
Title: Re: head "stuff"
Post by: PlaymoMan on July 06, 2015, 19:20:49
They aren't awful, but are definitely overused and unnecessary in this case. Especially the female pirate - the "hanging ornament" is attached to a peg coming out of the figure's hair. Yikes. It's easy to work with a hat in this case, but the hair? :-\
Title: Re: head "stuff"
Post by: tahra on July 06, 2015, 20:21:43
They aren't awful, but are definitely overused and unnecessary in this case. Especially the female pirate - the "hanging ornament" is attached to a peg coming out of the figure's hair. Yikes. It's easy to work with a hat in this case, but the hair? :-\

It's the same hair the hawaiian has - and an indian. You can put a flower, a feather, a skull... Nice. Or you can just snip it. Easy peasy.
Title: Re: head "stuff"
Post by: PlaymoMan on July 06, 2015, 20:41:19
It's the same hair the hawaiian has - and an indian. You can put a flower, a feather, a skull... Nice. Or you can just snip it. Easy peasy.

That's true. But it's still odd as to why Playmobil opted to include that feature in the first place. I can't imagine kids seeing the hanging ornament and thinking, "Wow! That's what I've been looking for in my Playmobil pirates all this time!". Pirates aren't exactly associated with dangling trinkets, so it isn't an element that adds value to the set.
Title: Re: head "stuff"
Post by: tahra on July 06, 2015, 20:44:16
I can't imagine kids seeing the hanging ornament and thinking, "Wow! That's what I've been looking for in my Playmobil pirates all this time!". Pirates aren't exactly associated with dangling trinkets, so it isn't an element that adds value to the set.

They're not!? These days, they probably are.

Maybe more then fairies with pink  ::)
Title: Re: head "stuff"
Post by: Baron Marshall on July 06, 2015, 20:54:31
Well some kids, even though you try your best to teach them different, do want that stuff. My six year old loves the hair dangle stuff and pink everything.... she wants pink pirates and pink knight armor too... it's very distressing actually  :lol:
Title: Re: head "stuff"
Post by: Macruran on July 06, 2015, 20:57:29
A pink knight would actually be pretty sweet.
Title: Re: head "stuff"
Post by: cachalote on July 06, 2015, 21:08:56
there will always be two kind of people in the world - including the playmo-world.

those that don't like meaningless things and those who find a way to see an use for them against all odds.
those that don't like it tend see the other group as a bunch of shallow and rather stupid people.
those that don't care about it see the first group as righteous and small-minded people.

:-[ i, for myself, have to confess - i see no reason whatsoever for the introduction of these "sticks" and i very much refrain from insulting everyone who doesn't agree with me and from using stronger words to define them.
as i love playmobil figures, it makes me sad/mad to have to dislike some for such a little reason.
but little is the key-word here - klickies are also little.
being so, a little "stuff" takes an enormous size.

>:( when i first saw these things i'm glad i live so far away from zirndorf.
my first reaction was to deeply hate the geobra designer that came up with this stupid idea.
i even started to imagine his ugly face and the ridiculous way he dresses and the car he drives so badly and slowly and the awful things he likes and the beautiful things he dislikes...
a little thing would trigger an attack.
and i would go to jail.
and my little pirate friends would have nobody to defend them against the evil design world.

as i think this way i get a little calmer.
but, as i said, a little thing can get me back on the ak-47 mood again.
:) please, zirndorfian designers, don't do this again.
as playmoman brilliantly said: it adds no value.
Title: Re: head "stuff"
Post by: cachalote on July 06, 2015, 21:17:40
... please forgive me.
i remembered i was a "white knight" in richard's kingdomality - http://www.cmi-lmi.com/kingdom.html
Title: Re: head "stuff"
Post by: tahra on July 07, 2015, 07:26:40
Well, I kinda like these - in pics, didn't see them "in the plastic" yet.

I do want to ... well.. do SOMETHING to whoever ruined the fairy ship. And worse, pink TRANSPARENT wizard staff. A gorgeous beautiful PERFECT sculp. Utterly ruined by a ... strange (can we leave it at that?) decision with colors. The Others take them.
Title: Re: head "stuff"
Post by: Birdie on July 07, 2015, 07:41:19
A pink knight would actually be pretty sweet.

At the rate it's going, I'm sure your wish will be granted soon!
Title: Re: head "stuff"
Post by: cachalote on July 11, 2015, 18:44:19
if it was trasparent/blue i would want one...
Title: Re: head "stuff"
Post by: Baron Marshall on July 11, 2015, 22:17:13
Transparent/pink?  :lol:
Title: Re: head "stuff"
Post by: Rasputin on July 12, 2015, 12:59:36
Argggg......these type of topics don't have me seeing red, but rather ugly fisher price pastel.

Geobra please stop catering to immaturity, these are toys for beeping sake.....and not just any toys........its an educational toy system
Title: Re: head "stuff"
Post by: tahra on July 12, 2015, 17:56:41
Transparent/pink?  :lol:

Yes. Beautiful sculpts.. HORRID colors. WHAT IN TARTARUS ARE THEY THINKING!?

(http://www.playkingdoms.com/temp/playmoproc/sillycolorstaff.jpg)

There are probably more unfortunate examples of this.
Title: Re: head "stuff"
Post by: indianapierre on July 17, 2015, 02:26:41
I'm on board with a lot of our complaints, but these cause me nothing but delight.

Trade silver for pirates often took the form of garish, annoying little nick-nacks accosting everything including hair. I'll gladly acquiesce to pegs for an opportunity to have dangly bits (NM how much I bug my G/f to wear her tassled garments.  TASSELS!!!)

...and the fairy staves have a beautiful sculpt, & I don't mind the colors. They feel magical.
Title: Re: head "stuff"
Post by: Birdie on July 17, 2015, 06:41:38
I'll confess, I kinda like the dangly hair thingies too, in moderation  ;D  :-[

And of course the sculpt of the staves is great. The glowing ball on top could even remain a flashy colour. But not the handle!  :wall:
Title: Re: head "stuff"
Post by: cachalote on July 17, 2015, 10:34:25
dear birdie and tahra,
this is not a place for confessions.
this is a thread to "smash" foolish ideas in the pirates world.
don't let the title foolish you.
if you kind of like the head stuff keep it to yourselves.
if you also like the coloured sticks, no problem but the head stuff is something that is not acceptable in the pirates world.
i bet you are not a single-pirates-and-no-other-theme collectors.
this head stuff for us (the single-pirates-and-no-other-theme collectors) means the door is open for any absurd stuff.
it starts with these little things and then what? realistic hair?
you see, that's already done.
how can design go in such different and antagonic ways?
it's the head stuff, i'm sure.
the head stuff...
 :wall:
Title: Re: head "stuff"
Post by: tahra on July 17, 2015, 12:00:15
if you kind of like the head stuff keep it to yourselves.

I most certainly will not.  :P

You know what they say about opinions........... 
Title: Re: head "stuff"
Post by: Birdie on July 17, 2015, 12:54:06
dear birdie and tahra,
this is not a place for confessions.
this is a thread to "smash" foolish ideas in the pirates world.
don't let the title foolish you.
if you kind of like the head stuff keep it to yourselves.

Way to treat two of the "five active members of this forum", as you put it elsewhere   :P
Title: Re: head "stuff"
Post by: Macruran on July 17, 2015, 13:28:55
It's things like this that make me glad that the only theme I collect was released once for a couple years only and will never come back and be horribly messed up. No pink Romans!
Title: Re: head "stuff"
Post by: Rasputin on July 17, 2015, 13:45:57
Sorry captain, geobra did it to most other historic themes so it was bound to happen to the pirate theme as well. The design team is running out of historic themes though. Just wait for the fantasy construction theme soon in pastel. Pink excavator that flies perhaps
Title: Re: head "stuff"
Post by: Macruran on July 17, 2015, 13:47:27
Pink police! Napoleonic dragons!
Title: Re: head "stuff"
Post by: tahra on July 17, 2015, 13:58:26
Pink excavator that flies perhaps

You forgot the most important part! It will shoot (at least) popcorn missiles!
Title: Re: head "stuff"
Post by: Tiermann on July 17, 2015, 19:27:37
I would totally buy Napoleonic Dragons.  ;D
Title: Re: head "stuff"
Post by: Macruran on July 17, 2015, 20:30:46
That would actually be pretty cool, but only if they kept the Napoleonic figures historically accurate.

PM should do a steampunk theme.
Title: Re: head "stuff"
Post by: cachalote on July 17, 2015, 21:31:56
it would have to be a blue steampunk for boys and a pink steampunk for girls.  :)
Title: Re: head "stuff"
Post by: Macruran on July 17, 2015, 21:51:57
steampink
Title: Re: head "stuff"
Post by: Birdie on July 18, 2015, 10:23:27
This made me laugh out loud  :lol: