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General => News => Topic started by: Wesley Myers on March 11, 2013, 03:57:10

Title: Playmobil invests £25m in injection moulding kit
Post by: Wesley Myers on March 11, 2013, 03:57:10
I thought this was interesting:

http://www.prw.com/subscriber/headlines2.html?cat=1&id=2303 (http://www.prw.com/subscriber/headlines2.html?cat=1&id=2303)
Title: Re: Playmobil invests £25m in injection moulding kit
Post by: el jefe on March 11, 2013, 04:22:58
New machines, more playmobil for the future.  Sounds good to me.
I gotta laugh at that the name of that sight.  Plastics and Rubber weekly.  It just oozes excitement.   :lol:
Title: Re: Playmobil invests £25m in injection moulding kit
Post by: playmofire on March 11, 2013, 07:11:17
Obviously they're getting things right in some customers' eyes.
Title: Re: Playmobil invests £25m in injection moulding kit
Post by: Rasputin on March 11, 2013, 15:38:41
a 3,200 metric ton machine is over 7 million pounds. What kind of molding machine is that?
Title: Re: Playmobil invests £25m in injection moulding kit
Post by: Tiermann on March 11, 2013, 18:24:15
Interesting
My guess on the large size would either be the big pieces like ship hulls, or multi-part ones that include some assembly like klickies.
Title: Re: Playmobil invests £25m in injection moulding kit
Post by: CountBogro on March 11, 2013, 18:39:05
... I gotta laugh at that the name of that sight.  Plastics and Rubber weekly.  It just oozes excitement.   :lol:

... My guess on the large size would either be the big pieces ...

Somehow I suddenly had to think of huge Playmobil suits  :love: or  :-[ (you choose)

Bogro
Title: Re: Playmobil invests £25m in injection moulding kit
Post by: Indianna on March 11, 2013, 19:08:08
a 3,200 metric ton machine is over 7 million pounds. What kind of molding machine is that?

I would say that this is either a typo or they are using the European convention of commas where we Ammuricans would put a decimal point.  In other words, this may mean 3.200 metric tons or about 7,000 pounds.   :)

Now, having said that, I notice that it says between 6 and 3,200 metric tonnes, so why would the 6 come first as, in my explanation, it would be the larger number.  I don't know what to think, except that I cannot conceive of a machine that weighs 7 million pounds.   ???

In any case, this is a very interesting article, indeed - thanks, Wesley!
Title: Re: Playmobil invests £25m in injection moulding kit
Post by: Rhalius on March 11, 2013, 19:13:25
With so many added moulding machines, perhaps this means they will take older parts back into production again?
Title: Re: Playmobil invests £25m in injection moulding kit
Post by: playmofire on March 11, 2013, 21:32:00
The tonnage required in the injection moulding process depends on the area of the item being moulded and the nature of the material, sloe flow or high flow, so Tim is probably right, large items such as pirate ship hulls.

Note, too, that the article is not saying that Playmobil is buying an injection moulding machine of 3,200 tonnes, just that they use them, which implies they already have these, not that any of that investment is being spent on them. 

As regards Indianna's suggestion that the comma is being used as decimal point (as is the case in Continental Europe), I don't think this is the case as a decimal point is used in the usual way in the currency figures.
Title: Re: Playmobil invests £25m in injection moulding kit
Post by: Redmao on March 13, 2013, 12:20:53
Good to know that things are going well for the Company.
Who knows, maybe this increase in production capabilities might mean that the lines will eventually be released globally so the rest of the world won't have to wait for a year to get the latest assortments.

That or we won't have the problem of regular short sleeves instead of rolled-up sleeves like shown on the boxes because the mold is already over used.

Of course I'm an optimist :)
Title: Re: Playmobil invests £25m in injection moulding kit
Post by: Indianna on March 13, 2013, 13:12:32
. . . As regards Indianna's suggestion that the comma is being used as decimal point (as is the case in Continental Europe), I don't think this is the case as a decimal point is used in the usual way in the currency figures.

Good point, Gordon!  I was so discombobulated with the idea of a 7 million pound machine that I couldn't think straight.   :-[ 
Title: Re: Playmobil invests £25m in injection moulding kit
Post by: tonguello on March 13, 2013, 14:55:35
Interesting indeed.
But I think that more injection machines does not necesarily means more assortment, but just more production. (in numbers I mean)

Let's jump when we read about 30m euros investment in new molds!!  ;D
Title: Re: Playmobil invests £25m in injection moulding kit
Post by: Rasputin on March 13, 2013, 15:20:39
Interesting indeed.
But I think that more injection machines does not necesarily means more assortment, but just more production. (in numbers I mean)

Let's jump when we read about 30m euros investment in new molds!!  ;D

On the contrary, If Geobra buys new machines and no new molds  that would mean that the new machines are using the old molds and that is good by me. Old molds = more classic parts and less clip system junk. I really do not see this as the case and I have a feeling they are also investing in new mold carving machines. This new technology is what is causing the price of molds to drop dramatically and that is causing or allowing Geobra to cycle the themes faster.
Title: Re: Playmobil invests £25m in injection moulding kit
Post by: Walts-Trains on March 13, 2013, 21:16:17
Ship Hulls are only small compared with some of the items Geobra produce.
Across the road from the factory where they produce Playmobil in Germany they have another factory producing garden pots etc. One of the machines is in the Playmobil factory producing very large pots. The mould weighs 2 tonnes alone.
Some of the pots are produced in Playmobil size.
Title: Re: Playmobil invests £25m in injection moulding kit
Post by: Wesley Myers on March 14, 2013, 02:48:29
On the contrary, If Geobra buys new machines and no new molds  that would mean that the new machines are using the old molds and that is good by me. Old molds = more classic parts and less clip system junk. I really do not see this as the case and I have a feeling they are also investing in new mold carving machines. This new technology is what is causing the price of molds to drop dramatically and that is causing or allowing Geobra to cycle the themes faster.

Even the rereleased old items (at least the bakery and the museum) are using different moulds than the original ones.  These are not the same old pieces.  The moulds have been either retooled or they have created anew. 

I have made a posting which I entitled 'Steck Identification Guide' and it outlines the differences in how the pieces have been changed over time.  I posted it on Laughing Giraffe but I should post it here as well.
Title: Re: Playmobil invests £25m in injection moulding kit
Post by: Rasputin on March 14, 2013, 03:37:48
Even the rereleased old items (at least the bakery and the museum) are using different moulds than the original ones.  These are not the same old pieces.  The moulds have been either retooled or they have created anew. 

I have made a posting which I entitled 'Steck Identification Guide' and it outlines the differences in how the pieces have been changed over time.  I posted it on Laughing Giraffe but I should post it here as well.

It was more wishfull thinking more than anything :-[ More old parts that are interchangeable, stecks, systemX etc....

Yes please do post your findings
Title: Re: Playmobil invests £25m in injection moulding kit
Post by: Playmo_80 on March 14, 2013, 11:26:17
for information steel density is about 8T/cubic meter, so 3,200 T means 400 cubic meter, so the mold size could be 100mx2mx2m....So 3,2T is more realistic....

Playmo_80