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Title: New Playmo bank causes outrage
Post by: Redmao on February 13, 2013, 13:20:20
NOTE: We have removed the original link by Redmao because there were in it another links to articules not appropiate for kids. We'll try to add the pictures soon.
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http://www.playmodb.org/cgi-bin/showinv.pl?setnum=5177
http://www.playmobil.de/on/demandware.store/Sites-DE-Site/de_DE/Product-Show?pid=5177&cgid=Polizei

Come on! Playing cops and robbers is almost as old as playing cowboy and indians. The cowboys can have their rifles and pistols, but the police can't have a thief to catch?


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Anti-gun campaigners slam new play set
 
Shocking ... snap of play set
Published: 11th February 2013

PLAYMOBIL have been slammed for a new toy set that shows an armed robbery at a bank.
The ‘City Action’ pack contains a masked blonde robber with toy shooter, a suited bank manager, gold bars, notes and a cash machine.
For kids ... box says toys are aimed at kids aged 4-10

Pictures accompanying the set, aimed at kids as young as four, show the raider holding a gun up to the bank boss as he hands over loot.

Another shows the blonde woman emptying a cash machine of tiny toy notes.

Raid ... cash machine snap

Anti-gun campaigners have branded the £35 playset - which says it’s aimed at kids aged four to 10 - as “horrendous”.

Communities Against Gun and Knife Crime spokesman Danny Bryan said: “It is horrendous that young people are given all these images to shape them. It is sending out the wrong message.”
 
Full set ... lets kids build entire bank, complete with ATM, security screen and wads of cash

But the German toy manufacturer behind the set claims it encourages kids to “imagine, invent, create.”

Playmobil sparked controversy in the past with a building site set aimed at youngsters which included what appeared to be crates of beer.
Title: Re: New Playmo bank causes outrage
Post by: tahra on February 13, 2013, 13:26:13
That was SO FREACKING FUNNY!

Gods, they should get a(nother) hobby!

That playmobil actually responded to it makes it kinda sad.
Title: Re: New Playmo bank causes outrage
Post by: bonniebeth on February 13, 2013, 13:39:37
Oh, that's just ridiculous! They're taking the set out of context, this is part of a police theme, so the whole point is for the police to catch the bad bank robber and take her to jail!
Title: Re: New Playmo bank causes outrage
Post by: Redmao on February 13, 2013, 13:44:30
Glad I'm not alone in finding this situation ridiculous.
Title: Re: New Playmo bank causes outrage
Post by: Bolingbroke on February 13, 2013, 13:47:24
The usual do-gooders.  ::)

Problem with them is they get a lot of media attention: they're only a very noisy minority, but because of the noise they generate they make it seem like most people agree with them  ::) ::) ::)
Title: Re: New Playmo bank causes outrage
Post by: Jay on February 13, 2013, 13:54:32
I don't think the set would be that much fun with some figure trying to cash a bad check.  Or with the teller just giving away toasters with every new account.
Title: Re: New Playmo bank causes outrage
Post by: bonniebeth on February 13, 2013, 14:08:07
I don't think the set would be that much fun with some figure trying to cash a bad check.  Or with the teller just giving away toasters with every new account.

:lmao: :lmao: :lmao:

If you look at the comments under the article, an awful lot of people agree with us that this controversy is just stupid. As one person said, we all played with guns as kids and it didn't turn us into mass murderers. ::)
Title: Re: New Playmo bank causes outrage
Post by: tahra on February 13, 2013, 14:49:33
My biggest shock was to see it was from UK, not US...  where they're usually fine with kids handling guns, as long as they're real. Plastic cannons are DANGEROUS!   8}
Title: Re: New Playmo bank causes outrage
Post by: playmovictorian on February 13, 2013, 14:51:26
Not to forget that the banking system has become one of the biggest robber on earth so I really do not know where to begin here  :lol:...
Title: Re: New Playmo bank causes outrage
Post by: Rasputin on February 13, 2013, 14:57:43
I think these articles are very funny and the people who are against the set are very naive, narrow minded extremists. For some reason they write the article to make them appear to think that the mere image of a gun will spark a child into a fit of killing rage.

Thanks for the laugh  ;)
Title: Re: New Playmo bank causes outrage
Post by: bonniebeth on February 13, 2013, 15:04:01
As if a gun is the only way to kill someone. 8}
Title: Re: New Playmo bank causes outrage
Post by: Erik on February 13, 2013, 15:38:37
I'm Captain of the Guards in a maximum security prison, and NONE of the robbers or agressors I work with daily seem to be influenced by "horrendous" Playmobil sets...Some people are so narrow-minded it saddens me. ::)
Title: Re: New Playmo bank causes outrage
Post by: tahra on February 13, 2013, 15:49:17
As if a gun is the only way to kill someone. 8}

Guns don't kill. PEOPLE kill.
Title: Re: New Playmo bank causes outrage
Post by: Lynx on February 13, 2013, 15:59:35
Hahaha, get a life, authors of this article! One of the funny comments: The real outrage is charging £40 for it!  :lol:
Title: Re: New Playmo bank causes outrage
Post by: Rasputin on February 13, 2013, 16:01:13
Hahaha, get a life, authors of this article! One of the funny comments: The real outrage is charging £40 for it!  :lol:

That was the one I had to laugh at too
Title: Re: New Playmo bank causes outrage
Post by: bonniebeth on February 13, 2013, 16:07:33
There's some great comments on that article both there and here. :lol: What Erik said made me laugh out loud!
Title: Re: New Playmo bank causes outrage
Post by: Baron Marshall on February 13, 2013, 16:36:05
my playmo bank robbers are falling behind the times... the last one just used a system x tool to disassemble the vault break the safe open... after placing a post in front of the police office door so they couldn't chase him  :lol:
Title: Re: New Playmo bank causes outrage
Post by: bonniebeth on February 13, 2013, 16:46:15
my playmo bank robbers are falling behind the times... the last one just used a system x tool to disassemble the vault break the safe open... after placing a post in front of the police office door so they couldn't chase him  :lol:

 :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: New Playmo bank causes outrage
Post by: tonguello on February 13, 2013, 18:15:55
NOTE: We have removed the original link by Redmao because there were in it another links to articules not appropiate for kids. We'll try to add the pictures soon.
Mod team.
Title: Re: New Playmo bank causes outrage
Post by: Hadoque on February 14, 2013, 02:35:08
We have removed the original link by Redmao because there were in it another links to articules not appropiate for kids.



A trainrobbery this time?  ;D
Title: Re: New Playmo bank causes outrage
Post by: Jay on February 14, 2013, 02:50:04
Guns don't kill. PEOPLE kill.

Yup, with guns.  ::)
Title: Re: New Playmo bank causes outrage
Post by: tahra on February 14, 2013, 08:46:20
my playmo bank robbers are falling behind the times... the last one just used a system x tool to disassemble the vault break the safe open... after placing a post in front of the police office door so they couldn't chase him  :lol:

:lmao:  :P

Yup, with guns.  ::)

Oh, please. With guns, knives, a rope, a shoe, a stone, a bottle, with their bare hands (or feet!) - shall I go on? We've been killing each other since the beginning of times. It's our nature.

You NEVER saw a gun being accused of murder!

(anyways, off topic, kinda)

I just don't get it why they picked on this particular set...
Title: Re: New Playmo bank causes outrage
Post by: Erik on February 14, 2013, 11:12:52


I just don't get it why they picked on this particular set...

Probably the fact that it's a FEMALE bankrobber...I can't stop thinking of all those innocent, shocked to the core children who are crying themselves to sleep at night after having seen this blue box just BRIMMING with it's evil content!!! :lol:
Title: Re: New Playmo bank causes outrage
Post by: tonguello on February 14, 2013, 11:17:55
I don't know if someone already said this.... but that's no woman... that's Damo!!  :lol: :lol: :lol:


 ;D
Title: Re: New Playmo bank causes outrage
Post by: bonniebeth on February 14, 2013, 11:32:36
 :lol: :lol: :lol: Yes, every time I see it I think of it as a man dressed as a woman! Probably because of Damo! :lol: :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: New Playmo bank causes outrage
Post by: Ismene on February 14, 2013, 22:46:03
In an age when parents let young children play violent video games, I hardly think a plastic bank robbery is what we need to be worried about.

I love how Damo's bag matches his/her shirt and shoes!  8-)
Title: Re: New Playmo bank causes outrage
Post by: Rhalius on February 15, 2013, 08:50:09
Well I gues they could have seen it coming that some nutjobs would get into a rage about this set.

First time I see playmobil criminals with a gun, usually its the cops that have sniper rifles, pistols, machine guns, batons, riot shields and everything. Yet I dont think anyone ever argued about this inciting kids to play out some serious police brutality.

I'd gues playmobil could have included an armed cop with the set to show the criminal isnt getting away with it, but it shouldnt be needed.
Title: Re: New Playmo bank causes outrage
Post by: JackDaniels on February 15, 2013, 11:16:41
Just read it in the newspaper. Typical some thing for Europe or the Netherlands. To many people doing nothing all day,  except looking at others and thinking:

what's there to 'nack(?)' about? When i was a kid lots off times we saddeld our pony's and robbed the stagecoach......Never thought off becoming one in real life :lol:

Jack
Title: Re: New Playmo bank causes outrage
Post by: conniefrere on February 15, 2013, 15:34:53

First time I see playmobil criminals with a gun, usually its the cops that have sniper rifles, pistols, machine guns, batons, riot shields and everything. Yet I dont think anyone ever argued about this inciting kids to play out some serious police brutality.


Ehmm, and how would you call a pirate? Oke, the're not always criminals, some had a  Letter of Marque and Reprisal and were allowed to enter another ship. However, most pirates were just criminals and you could be hanged. The playmopirates have guns too! Furthermore the western bandits and robber sets also have guns. So I did not quite get your statement.


I agree of course it's a lot of  nonsense to slander this set. I find it peculiar this news appears after the news on 31 jan 2013 about playmobil making 5% more profit and will expand their production capacities in nearby future. Seems someone is jealous! Lego?  :) 8-)
Title: Re: New Playmo bank causes outrage
Post by: tahra on February 15, 2013, 15:37:02
(unfortunately, I don't think Lego has ANYthing to be jealous about :(  )
Title: Re: New Playmo bank causes outrage
Post by: conniefrere on February 15, 2013, 15:40:57
(unfortunately, I don't think Lego has ANYthing to be jealous about :(  )

You're right..... but, on the bright sight, playmo keeps getting bigger!
Title: Re: New Playmo bank causes outrage
Post by: tahra on February 15, 2013, 16:11:54
Well, IMO, playmobil is WAY BETTER than lego (DUH, right?). Just lousy at promotion. AND they don't like money. A shame.

Then again, aren't there lego cops and robbers as well?
Title: Re: New Playmo bank causes outrage
Post by: Rhalius on February 15, 2013, 19:27:07
Not sure if lego cops have guns.

Anyways, about pirates, cowboys, knights and such having weapons: Somehow those fanatics dont care about that unless they are really terrible. It's usually just the modern settings that they pick on since they think children will identify strongly with it. Though you do hear about parents who take away the weapons of their children's pirates, cowboys and knights too.

Nothing I agree with, but its just how their twisted logic works. Same reason why they have produced salloons and taverns, but construction workers with beer cause a controversy.

Regarding lego not having anything to be jalous of... well not anymore at least. They are mostly just scoring over the succes of established movies.

They did however do plenty of things earlier in lego's golden age that pretty much spanned from the 80's to the 90's that could be envied.

While playmobil has released the occasional nice space sets, overall I'd have to say that Lego has been far more succesfull in the space theme with all kinds of interesting spaceships that had smaller ships coming out of them, monorails, rockets, and plenty of interesting factions. In the late 90's they ran out of inspiration sadly enough, but before then they pretty much released one succesfull space theme after another without using any licenses.

Stuff like this UFO for example was released at the creative peak of that theme:
(http://i913.photobucket.com/albums/ac337/Rhalius/Lego008.jpg)
Opinions on the looks might differ, personly I think it looks quite stylish. But the brilliance in the design is that theres an exploration vehicle inside that can be taken out with a robotic arm, a smaller exploration cart under a hatch, and a smaller ufo on top attached with magnets.
And lego did stuff like this all the time with their space themes, having smaller exploration vehicles inside a larger one. This is simply the only good example I personly have of it.

Also, while Playmobil was earlier with pirates, I'd say that Lego has been very strong with their own pirate theme in its early years, before they ditched it after releasing a rather poor batch later in the 90's.

Stuff like the port here:
(http://i913.photobucket.com/albums/ac337/Rhalius/Lego003.jpg)
Is certainly something I would love to see playmobil do sometimes. It has a harbour, a crane, various small buildings to store goods and it even comes with the small tradeship thats laying next to it.  It gives the soldiers something to protect, and the pirates something to plunder. Thats always been missing from playmobil sadly enough.

Considering how Playmobil has released so many civilian sets for the medieval theme in its heyday, its quite surprising that they never did that for the pirates theme while even lego did that, and they had very little civilian stuff in any historic theme at any given time.

Title: Re: New Playmo bank causes outrage
Post by: tahra on February 15, 2013, 20:18:59
Not sure if lego cops have guns.

REALLY?!  :o

Anyways, about pirates, cowboys, knights and such having weapons: Somehow those fanatics dont care about that unless they are really terrible. It's usually just the modern settings that they pick on since they think children will identify strongly with it.

Yeah, go figure. I never understood that.

Regarding lego not having anything to be jalous of... well not anymore at least. They are mostly just scoring over the succes of established movies.

I think you saw my statement the other way around - or I made it wrong. Now I'm not sure. I meant that lego should NOT be jealous, as they are brilliant at promotion, and there's hardly a place without lego, while playmobil.. well.... you know. That was quite shocking in that London store. :(

I like Lego, but not a buyer.. I have a couple of small sets from 1981, some ancient stuff when I was even younger (yes, and dinosaurs roamed the Earth) - whith those blocky figures.

However, I think playmobil is infinitely better than lego - the klickys are just ADORABLE. Even the 123 ones, compared to the duplo ones, are miles above.

But "comercially", playmobil doesn't begin to scratch lego's shoes. Unfortunately. AND they don't like money - a problem lego doesn't seem to have (though I'm not into forums/stores/whatever of lego - other than paging through the catalogs there are at stores sometimes ;) )

Makes me sad and mad by turns, but it's my opinion :(  And if I seem overly critic sometimes.. it's because I care. I don't give a darn if other stuff's designers are color blind, if they're worse (or better) than before or whatever.. because I don't care. Playmobil is... different.  :love:  So I whine and whine and protest, and whine some more. For all the good it does me.

With all the faults it has, it is still the best toy EVER. <- PERIOD.   ;D
Title: Re: New Playmo bank causes outrage
Post by: Rhalius on February 15, 2013, 22:01:28
It sure is yes, and its probably a good thing that they arent too commercial. the more commercial lego seems to be getting, the further the quality of the sets seems to go down and the prices just keep going up because its vaguely resembling something from a movie.

If anything, playmobil is getting a bit too commercial with some stuff such as the new asian dragon theme, the shopping mall, latest cowboys and more such themes. Focusing on the most basic things that attract kids to a theme instead of providing a broader range that they arent familiar with and provides a full world instead of just one aspect of it.
Title: Re: New Playmo bank causes outrage
Post by: Sylvia on February 15, 2013, 23:11:02
This "controversial" bank set even got a mention on Channel 4 program The Last Leg this evening, and the host had it set up on his desk. ;)
Title: Re: New Playmo bank causes outrage
Post by: bonniebeth on February 15, 2013, 23:18:19
Really? That's interesting it even made the TV news! So what did they say about it? I mean did the hosts act like the whole thing was silly or what?
Title: Re: New Playmo bank causes outrage
Post by: Sylvia on February 16, 2013, 11:14:27
The show it appeared on is hosted by comedian Adam Hills and is more of a chat show then a news program. It looks back on weekly world events and mixes humour with more serious topics, many of which are related to disabled people. The panel of 3 discussed whether or not the bank set was appropriate for kids but actually spent more time making jokes about it, so they didn't really come to any firm conclusions. :)

Title: Re: New Playmo bank causes outrage
Post by: Birdie on February 20, 2013, 17:46:15
There was a column in one of Belgium's big newspapers (De Standaard) about it yesterday.
The journalist was making fun of the fact that they were focusing on the criminal and not the bank as a toy (the pun being that banks are the real villains in this day and age).

I think most people realize this is a stupid thing to get upset about.
But the discussion is quite entertaining, that's true  :)
Title: Re: New Playmo bank causes outrage
Post by: Rasputin on February 20, 2013, 19:35:47
Now that would have been a funny set. The bank teller holding the gun to the customer and robbing them  :lol:
Title: Re: New Playmo bank causes outrage
Post by: Rhalius on February 21, 2013, 12:15:11
western banks are usually released with a bankrobber as well.