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General => Collector's Corner => Topic started by: Rasputin on October 05, 2012, 23:28:04

Title: Adult sets for adults eyes only.
Post by: Rasputin on October 05, 2012, 23:28:04
bb just mentioned to me that Lego has sets marketed to adult clients. What if ...........

I would want the old brass trains back for re-release. I do not think Geobra could sell such a toy marketed to kids with all the current protection law.

And army sets, like tanks and jets. My modern cities need  proper armies. Nothing to distinct to any particular region but at least four factions.

Also a casino theme with slots and tables. Has to have a stage and bar in it.

What what would you want if it was for adults eyes only?
Title: Re: Adult sets for adults eyes only.
Post by: Hadoque on October 06, 2012, 00:45:35
Though I seriously doubt Geobra will ever launch a line specifically for adult collectors, such sets would give endless possibilities...
I'd want bigger ships of course  ;D  Historical trimasters, but also a modern nuclear aircraftcarrier...
And jets, like an F-22 Raptor or an EF-2000  Typhoon (and Rafales or Superhornets or F-35s for the carrier).
Title: Re: Adult sets for adults eyes only.
Post by: bonniebeth on October 06, 2012, 00:56:43
I would like to see some things that might be much too big and expensive for a normal toy market. Like perhaps a ferris wheel, though that would probably have a limited audience. Some other things that might have a wider audience:

A large pirate ship, much closer to actual scale, with sleeping quarters below deck and rows of cannons.

The paddle boat that was never released as it was deemed too expensive.

Stocks and gallows. What western town is complete without gallows?

A western coroner with hearse, or even a modern funeral set with a proper coffin, flowers, and modern hearse. Much too dark for kids perhaps, but essential for serious photo stories and dios made by adults.

EDIT: Just noticed Hadoque mentioned larger ships!
Title: Re: Adult sets for adults eyes only.
Post by: Hadoque on October 06, 2012, 01:02:27
A large pirate ship, much closer to actual scale, with sleeping quarters below deck and rows of cannons.

 :)9


EDIT: Just noticed Hadoque mentioned larger ships!

 ;D
Title: Re: Adult sets for adults eyes only.
Post by: Hadoque on October 06, 2012, 01:06:44
Stocks and gallows. What western town is complete without gallows?

A western coroner with hearse, or even a modern funeral set with a proper coffin, flowers, and modern hearse. Much too dark for kids perhaps, but essential for serious photo stories and dios made by adults.

Yes, such more dark/controversial sets would be cool too! A kind like the medieval torture-chamber prototype-set, which never made it into production...
Title: Re: Adult sets for adults eyes only.
Post by: bonniebeth on October 06, 2012, 01:13:05
Yeah, that may be a little TOO dark. But I suppose there'd probably be quite a market for it.

I'm trying to think of other sets that are just a hair too big and grande for a normal toy market. It seems we have talked about so many things and now I can't think of any of them. :lol:
Title: Re: Adult sets for adults eyes only.
Post by: Pynedor on October 06, 2012, 01:17:06
I definitely agree with the request for larger ships. The thing that's really kept me from buying any of the ships is the lack of below-deck areas. The ships just don't seem very realistic to me because of that. :-\

I wouldn't want modern military sets though... I know a lot of people have made customs and would really like sets like that to be released.

I would add that I think some actual Crusade sets would be cool instead of just the individual Crusaders. It's quite obvious that the few that were released were basically targeted at adults that would actually know what they were supposed to be, but it's unfortunate no actual sets have been released.
Title: Re: Adult sets for adults eyes only.
Post by: Rasputin on October 06, 2012, 01:19:00
big ship would be great and I am sure if they made one I would get one. I think lego had a set that was close to $1000 if I am remembering correctly. 
 
I really like the idea of funerals. Classic western ones and modern ones. Even a cemetery and crematory  :lol: 
 
there was a toy aircraft carrier and it was huge. I would get one of those for our armies.
 
Its so easy to shop in the land of make believe  :lol:
Title: Re: Adult sets for adults eyes only.
Post by: bonniebeth on October 06, 2012, 01:33:09
Another thing would be a roman ship with space for rowers below deck. ;D As in Ben Hur. I think also that certain historical klickys that would not be interesting to kids could be released for adults. As in greek warriors, samurai, or actual specific historical figures like Napolean. I'd rather see a whole greek theme than just warriors though. But you get the idea.
Title: Re: Adult sets for adults eyes only.
Post by: Ismene on October 06, 2012, 01:58:19
I want a white ferris wheel, like the one in Paris, a realistic Victorian/Western train, and a Victorian undertaker with a horse-drawn hearse! And old chapel with an cemetery would be cool. In France and Louisiana, cemeteries have little stone ''houses'' for family burials. It would be awesome to have some of those. The effect is so eerie.

I don't think stocks are too dark for children. They'd be good for a medieval set too. It could include cabbages.  :lol:

Modern warfare sets are too ''close'' for my comfort. But I could see some adult collectors wanting them.
Title: Re: Adult sets for adults eyes only.
Post by: bonniebeth on October 06, 2012, 02:05:55
Cabbages with the stocks! :lol: :lol: :lol: That made me laugh!

Yes little burial tombs would be cool. Only really old cemetaries have that here in Louisiana. It would be cool for a certain scene from Phantom of the Opera! :yup:

A carousel would be great too, and a roller coaster.
Title: Re: Adult sets for adults eyes only.
Post by: Pynedor on October 06, 2012, 02:08:27
They do have that executioner figure. I mean, it's... an executioner. There really isn't any other interpretation for it. He chops off heads with a giant axe. :lol:
Title: Re: Adult sets for adults eyes only.
Post by: Ismene on October 06, 2012, 02:14:23
Yes little burial tombs would be cool. Only really old cemetaries have that here in Louisiana. It would be cool for a certain scene from Phantom of the Opera! :yup:

Seeing as I collect Victorian sets, I'm only interested in ''old''. Yes, it would be good for the Phantom.
Title: Re: Adult sets for adults eyes only.
Post by: Rhalius on October 06, 2012, 09:17:11
Well I am fine with sets being released for adults, but they should not alienate children. Modern armies is a definitive no go since many of these things will find their way to children's playmobil as well.

For adult sets, I would think more about sets a bit too big and maybe a little too complex for children. Such as a beautifull three master with soldiers on it, larger buildings and maybe playmobil depictions of famous buildings, moments in history, etc.

All kinds of things that would be beautifull to put on display, but wont alienate children.
Title: Re: Adult sets for adults eyes only.
Post by: bonniebeth on October 06, 2012, 11:23:06
Well, if they were marketed specifically to adults in a seperate section of the website, I don't see how it would matter. Other than something totally inappropriate for children to even see. There are many modern war toys out there, so I don't see how it would alienate kids. That isn't to my personal taste and I wouldn't buy them, but I don't think it would alienate kids, or their parents, assuming it wasn't even marketed for kids.
Title: Re: Adult sets for adults eyes only.
Post by: zugpferdchen on October 06, 2012, 13:13:31
I want larger older locomotives in Playmobil:
Locos like the BR 01 (http://www.spur-1-freunde.de/Bilder/BR01-kiss/frameset2Kiss01.html), 01.10 (http://www.spur-1-freunde.de/Bilder/BR01-10/km1/01.1102/framesetBR011102km1.html), 17.10 (http://www.fleischmann.de/uploads/pics/flash_Dampf_BR17.JPG), 78 (http://www.spur-1-freunde.de/Bilder/BR78maeNeu/frameset78410.html), 96 (http://www.lokschuppenhagenhaspe.de/artikel/big/4974cd51b9b77.JPG) (Mallet) and E 18 (http://up.picr.de/6979638apg.jpg)/E 19 (http://www.spur-1-freunde.de/Bilder/E19/kiss/framesete19kiss.html), E 91 (http://www.spur-1-freunde.de/Bilder/E91drg/framesete91drg.html) and a SVT 137 »Fliegender Hamburger« (http://www.spur-1-freunde.de/Bilder/svt137/framesetsvt.html)  [Pics are most very expensive Gauge 1 models, 17.10 is H0].
...or at least one bigger steam loco for customizing...

It is a pity that there will probably never be such locomotives or similar.
I/we have to build unfortunately these things myself/ourselves...
Title: Re: Adult sets for adults eyes only.
Post by: Rasputin on October 06, 2012, 14:30:02
I want larger older locomotives in Playmobil:
Locos like the BR 01 (http://www.spur-1-freunde.de/Bilder/BR01-kiss/frameset2Kiss01.html), 01.10 (http://www.spur-1-freunde.de/Bilder/BR01-10/km1/01.1102/framesetBR011102km1.html), 17.10 (http://www.fleischmann.de/uploads/pics/flash_Dampf_BR17.JPG), 78 (http://www.spur-1-freunde.de/Bilder/BR78maeNeu/frameset78410.html), 96 (http://www.lokschuppenhagenhaspe.de/artikel/big/4974cd51b9b77.JPG) (Mallet) and E 18 (http://up.picr.de/6979638apg.jpg)/E 19 (http://www.spur-1-freunde.de/Bilder/E19/kiss/framesete19kiss.html), E 91 (http://www.spur-1-freunde.de/Bilder/E91drg/framesete91drg.html) and a SVT 137 »Fliegender Hamburger« (http://www.spur-1-freunde.de/Bilder/svt137/framesetsvt.html)  [Pics are most very expensive Gauge 1 models, 17.10 is H0].
...or at least one bigger steam loco for customizing...

It is a pity that there will probably never be such locomotives or similar.
I/we have to build unfortunately these things myself/ourselves...

Wow, those are some beautiful engines. I have always wanted an electric trolley, if that is what they are called, to be set up on an automatic reversing switch. It would go through a down town area in a Victorian type classic setting.

Those engines must be over $1000 each, certainly not located in your toy department for kids 4-12 years old.
Title: Re: Adult sets for adults eyes only.
Post by: Pynedor on October 06, 2012, 16:59:29
I don't think there will ever be sets released for this market only, as there's no possible way to limit the buyers. Also, nothing we've listed is really too mature for children or anything. I reckon we're naming things that might be too complex or specific for children, but I can't really definitively say that because I think some of the ideas suggested would actually add to the learning experience of the toys. :lol:
Title: Re: Adult sets for adults eyes only.
Post by: zugpferdchen on October 06, 2012, 17:25:40
Those engines must be over $1000 each, certainly not located in your toy department for kids 4-12 years old.
Yes, you are right, these Gauge-1-toys are for adults with much money: each loco costs in Gauge 1 ~2000,- to 3000,- € (not $).
In comparison to this, a 4052 loco is cheap...


I have always wanted an electric trolley
...but this could be a model for children too (one day perhaps), I think...
Title: Re: Adult sets for adults eyes only.
Post by: bonniebeth on October 06, 2012, 18:00:31
I don't think there will ever be sets released for this market only, as there's no possible way to limit the buyers.

We don't mean that only specific people would be allowed to buy them. Just that they would be marketed towards adults, not children since they would be more expensive than found in an ordinary toy line. And in some cases the box might need a "not intended for children under 12" warning. If people feel their kids are mature enough to handle it and want to buy them for their kids in spite of the expense that owuld be fine. Just like the lego Death Star, or Falling Water. Anyone who wants it can buy them, it's just not something most parents would probably buy for their five-year-old.

architecture series: http://architecture.lego.com/en-us/products/

12 and up products: http://shop.lego.com/en-US/catalog/productListing.jsp?_requestid=258782 some of these sets are $400, adjust the listing to price: high to low, and you will see some sets that are obviously not for your average child.
Title: Re: Adult sets for adults eyes only.
Post by: Duckman on October 06, 2012, 18:23:29
How about re-releasing the two  western and 4052 trains as static models!

Replace the motor block/s with a simple non powered rolling chassis stick them in a nice Perspex/plastic display case and give them a limited edition certificate. Perhaps on a piece of plastic track with fixed figures.

The advantages of this would be, hopefully it would be quite cheap to make but have a collectable limited edition price premium for Playmobil. Any one who didn’t want to keep it in its static form could remove it from its case and source themselves a motor block or two. Provide new source of spares for  existing western and 4052
 
Also Playmobil does at least give a small nod to adult collectors with its £100 (not complaining) resin figures.
Title: Re: Adult sets for adults eyes only.
Post by: bonniebeth on October 06, 2012, 18:55:50
Which are not available to us in the US. :( We don't get so much as a story book or jigsaw puzzle over here.
Title: Re: Adult sets for adults eyes only.
Post by: Rasputin on October 06, 2012, 19:31:42
I don't think there will ever be sets released for this market only, as there's no possible way to limit the buyers. Also, nothing we've listed is really too mature for children or anything. I reckon we're naming things that might be too complex or specific for children, but I can't really definitively say that because I think some of the ideas suggested would actually add to the learning experience of the toys. :lol:

I think it would only be limited in the available funds. Typical kids do not have access to $1000 for some hobby.

I do agree that the content is not too far off for kids, that is unless there is a brothel  ;)



How about re-releasing the two  western and 4052 trains as static models!

Replace the motor block/s with a simple non powered rolling chassis stick them in a nice Perspex/plastic display case and give them a limited edition certificate. Perhaps on a piece of plastic track with fixed figures.

The advantages of this would be, hopefully it would be quite cheap to make but have a collectable limited edition price premium for Playmobil. Any one who didn’t want to keep it in its static form could remove it from its case and source themselves a motor block or two. Provide new source of spares for  existing western and 4052
 
Also Playmobil does at least give a small nod to adult collectors with its £100 (not complaining) resin figures.


That is a great idea to over come these obstacles. I do not know why I did not think of it, it so simple and would work. Engine blocks are still on auctions regularly
Title: Re: Adult sets for adults eyes only.
Post by: Gyps on October 11, 2012, 17:45:55
I like the idea of medieval stocks, but can't see how a klicky could fit in them, given that their hands and heads wouldn't be able to be in them at the same time :D  He would have to have his hands in stocks and maybe his head peeping over the top... gah!

As for gallows - I think there was a diorama produced recently (can't find the link) where they had one in the town centre using existing playmo parts.. if I manage to rediscover it, I'll post :D 

Title: Re: Adult sets for adults eyes only.
Post by: bonniebeth on October 11, 2012, 20:59:32
Right, they would have to be just hands in the stocks, or the feet-only kind. Somewhere I have a picture of myself in foot stocks when I was a teenager. :lol: You sit on a board that is turned sideways so that it is very uncomfortable, with your feet straight out in front. That kind would work very well for a klicky.