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Title: can anyone tell me which klicky this chinese brave's hair comes from?
Post by: cheng on December 17, 2013, 05:57:37
I dont know the answer myself...could be quite new...probably from a female klicky...its black and straight...I didnt trim or modify it....makes a good black veil for soldiers though
Title: Re: can anyone tell me which klicky this chinese brave's hair comes from?
Post by: tahra on December 17, 2013, 09:10:55
I think it's one of the cleopatras...
Title: Re: can anyone tell me which klicky this chinese brave's hair comes from?
Post by: Sylvia on December 17, 2013, 10:31:40
Yep, it's Egyptian. :)
The woman in 4246 is one that I know definitely has it.

Her part no is 30 14 4000.  :elf:
Title: Re: can anyone tell me which klicky this chinese brave's hair comes from?
Post by: cheng on December 17, 2013, 13:59:09
thanks ladies!
and ETN even...dont think I can get them from DS, haha!

OMG...and what did I do with cleopatra :P must have packed her away when renovating and dropped her wig :lol:
Title: Re: can anyone tell me which klicky this chinese brave's hair comes from?
Post by: GrahamB on December 17, 2013, 18:16:03
Special 4651 (Cleopatra) also has this hair. So does the Egyptian lady in Mystery Figures Series 2. No part number/ETN in Playmodb for this hair, it's described as 'unknown'. Sorry Cheng! Keep an eye on those Maltese sellers on ebay, perhaps?
Title: Re: can anyone tell me which klicky this chinese brave's hair comes from?
Post by: cheng on December 18, 2013, 00:26:20
Yep, it's Egyptian. :)
The woman in 4246 is one that I know definitely has it.
Her part no is 30 14 4000.  :elf:

ah, Graham, so this hair mould has been around quite a while already.
..I misread, thinking the number Sylvia mentioned, was for this hair piece....anyway I dont think I need more, yet.
Title: Re: can anyone tell me which klicky this chinese brave's hair comes from?
Post by: GrahamB on May 09, 2014, 21:11:08
I came across this topic when looking for something else. There is nopw a part number for black 'Cleopatra' hair if Cheng or anyone is interested. It is 30 25 9990 (and costs 0.20 Euro from DS). Thanks to Heather for 'scraping' this information from Ersatzteile-Finden on www.playmobil.de. There are other hair part numbers now available and I will post full details in a new topic when I have done a bit more research....
Title: Re: can anyone tell me which klicky this chinese brave's hair comes from?
Post by: tahra on May 09, 2014, 21:22:17
I came across this topic when looking for something else. There is nopw a part number for black 'Cleopatra' hair if Cheng or anyone is interested. It is 30 25 9990 (and costs 0.20 Euro from DS). Thanks to Heather for 'scraping' this information from Ersatzteile-Finden on www.playmobil.de. There are other hair part numbers now available and I will post full details in a new topic when I have done a bit more research....

Thank you - I'd love to be able to get some hair types/colors....
Title: Re: can anyone tell me which klicky this chinese brave's hair comes from?
Post by: cowabounga on May 10, 2014, 04:57:10
Yes, me too!
Title: Re: can anyone tell me which klicky this chinese brave's hair comes from?
Post by: cheng on May 11, 2014, 02:02:08
I came across this topic when looking for something else. There is nopw a part number for black 'Cleopatra' hair if Cheng or anyone is interested. It is 30 25 9990 (and costs 0.20 Euro from DS). Thanks to Heather for 'scraping' this information from Ersatzteile-Finden on www.playmobil.de. There are other hair part numbers now available and I will post full details in a new topic when I have done a bit more research....

Thanks Graham...I've ordered only 4 already....is the ETN available because of the Figu?e ....not because it was on other kliky? Anyone knows what's the ETN for the white belt for the Masai special? If that non-Fi?ure is "scrape-able"?
Title: Re: can anyone tell me which klicky this chinese brave's hair comes from?
Post by: GrahamB on May 11, 2014, 13:42:42
...is the ETN available because of the Figu?e ....not because it was on other kliky?

Yes, I think that's why, Cheng. Only the parts from recent sets are available through DS (and show up on Ersatzteile Finden)

Anyone knows what's the ETN for the white belt for the Masai special? If that non-Fi?ure is "scrape-able"?

Which special are you referring to? 4685 'Masai Warrior' has a black belt; 30-07-8680 is similar if not identical and this is available from DS.
Title: Re: can anyone tell me which klicky this chinese brave's hair comes from?
Post by: cheng on May 12, 2014, 04:22:12
thanks GrahamB!

The Masai I'm referring to is the witch doctor 30007132 who has a single-shoulder red top and zebra coloured skirt and also holds a stick/staff with zebra colours...I think he's from DS catalogue but I'm very sure he has a white belt. (something like black judoka belt except that its in white)

is the 30-07-8680 a black belt for knights? I can't tell, its just says gurtel-schwert (belt-black) but its not removable, how come its available from DS?

does anyone know the ETN of the white belt from 30001293(Red Indian)?

is anyone able to 'harvest' for the ETN for the black rubbery swimming cap?
I have seen the red swim cap but thought there could have been a black one too, was there? 
Title: Re: can anyone tell me which klicky this chinese brave's hair comes from?
Post by: GrahamB on May 12, 2014, 06:51:55
is the 30-07-8680 a black belt for knights? I can't tell, its just says gurtel-schwert (belt-black) but its not removable, how come its available from DS?

See attached picture below, from PlaymoDB. The belt isn't quite as square as that in reality! It is only removable by disassembling the klicky. The King in fi?ures Series 4 had such a belt, which probably explains why it is now available as a separate part.

does anyone know the ETN of the white belt from 30001293(Red Indian)?

PlaymoDB calls this a 'loincloth' and several Indian klickies have one. Heather recently added the ETN 30 64 1983 with description 'Loincloth (white)'. There is no picture on www.playmobil.de or PlaymoDB, so someone will have to order one to check it out. It might be from the Indian in fi?ures Series 4 (white with blue printing).

is anyone able to 'harvest' for the ETN for the black rubbery swimming cap?
I have seen the red swim cap but thought there could have been a black one too, was there?

This might be 'Perücke-Bademütze', released in both black and red. Unfortunately, no ETN for either, yet.
Edit: 30 20 5633 is ETN for one of the two  'Perücke-Bademütze', but the colour is not disclosed in Ersatzteile-Finden. I have ordered one from DS, so when it comes we will know what colour it is! Watch this space....
Title: Re: can anyone tell me which klicky this chinese brave's hair comes from?
Post by: Indianna on May 12, 2014, 21:17:22
I feel that I should know the answer to this question, or that I used to know the answer to this question, but anyway, here goes:  what does "ETN" stand for, please?   ???
Title: Re: can anyone tell me which klicky this chinese brave's hair comes from?
Post by: cheng on May 13, 2014, 01:39:12
Thanks graham!! You've written a lot of useful info here...maybe we should start a thread for ETNs not available in plans .......or better still...in Heather's playmodb....but she has plenty to do already.....
Yes do let us know....I hope 'Perücke-Bademütze' 30 20 5633 is black!
ETN for kone of the two  'Perücke-Bademütze',

Indianna....my German isn't good but its Ersatzteile-T-Nummer.... Cant remember what T was for...somebody please correct me....

I usually type "ETN number" here so those people who don't understand can at least guess what we mean...these 8 digit numbers so important to us PM collectors ;)
Title: Re: can anyone tell me which klicky this chinese brave's hair comes from?
Post by: GrahamB on May 13, 2014, 08:03:53
ErsatzTeil Nummer
Title: Re: can anyone tell me which klicky this chinese brave's hair comes from?
Post by: Indianna on May 13, 2014, 13:20:17
Thanks for the explanation, cheng & Graham!  It seems so obvious now.  ::)  I had been thinking that it must be an English language abbreviation similar to ISBN (International Standard Book Number) or SKU Stock Keeping Unit) as opposed to a German abbreviation - after all, why would I ever imagine that a German company would use an abbreviation for a German language term? ? ? ? ;D
Title: Re: can anyone tell me which klicky this chinese brave's hair comes from?
Post by: GrahamB on May 13, 2014, 15:12:02
It be one of they TLAs, Indianna- a Three Letter Abbreviation, so it be.
Title: Re: can anyone tell me which klicky this chinese brave's hair comes from?
Post by: sbblabotw on May 14, 2014, 12:21:43
I can't resist these puzzles! I think I can say it's a good guess that 'Perücke-Bademütze' 30 20 5633 is the black one. Look at the parts that surround it, numerically (the final '3' doesn't count):

30 20 5513 - Helm-Samurai für Feder
30 20 5523 - Helm-Bergbau
30 20 5543 - Skirt, armoured, with sword-loop on left
30 20 5553 - Legs with split skirt, smooth armoured boots
30 20 5573 - Rifle, assault
30 20 5583 - Wig (hair), straight, swept back
30 20 5593 - Arm, bare, tapered to wrist, frilly shoulder cover
30 20 5613 - Collar of hoodie shirt, small, pointed front and back
30 20 5633 - Perücke-Bademütze
30 20 5643 - Stungun future planet
30 20 5673 - Schiffsaxt
30 20 5683 - Neckerchief
30 20 5693 - Shoulder cover
30 20 5703 - Wig (hair), bald head with headband
30 20 5723 - Collar, armoured, with pegs for wings
30 20 5733 - Loincloth / belt with knob
30 20 5743 - Legs with knee-length shorts, ankle boots
30 20 5753 - Arm for diving suit, padded
30 20 5763 - Light for diving suit

All these parts look like ones that appear for the first time in 5460. The English names are determined because the German name for the part, matches a previously existing German name, so I have a script to look for these matches and copy over the English name from the older part. (Using the existing parts as a Rosetta Stone, basically.) It's on my list to get some pictures and colours in there, and assign them to the set. Also thinking about a useful way to show what parts belong with which Figure, not just the set number.

By the way, parts detectives: parts starting in "30 2" are unpainted (although they may be molded in multiple colours); "30 63" and "30 64" parts are painted; "30 66" and "30 67" parts have multiple molds, usually assembled permanently such as animals, but sometimes separable. This is a near-100% rule. Might be of some help.
Title: Re: can anyone tell me which klicky this chinese brave's hair comes from?
Post by: cheng on May 14, 2014, 14:25:27
Heather...I'm speechless and will need to read what u wrote several times :P and your last paragraph...I must copy it down somewhere...this thread will be lost someday...even then I will continue to ask these "silly" questions for I'm eons behind you all in ETNs.....I'm so handicapped now without your playmodb running at its best...
Title: Re: can anyone tell me which klicky this chinese brave's hair comes from?
Post by: GrahamB on May 14, 2014, 14:58:01
Those are very useful tips, thanks Heather. Part numbers do have some logic! And somewhere in Geobra GMBH there is a master list with every part number, description, colour, moulding details, etc. (drools uncontrollably...). I know this is true, because they have never used a part number twice, so they must have a list to reference whenever they number a new part! Why can't they just let us see the d**n list? Just leave me in a room with it and a photocopier, or computer and USB drive.....

Also thinking about a useful way to show what parts belong with which Figure, not just the set number.
Could each Figure have its own set number, such as 5460a,  5460b, etc., like the klickies? There might be a case for aligning these numbers with the lists on Animobil too?
Title: Re: can anyone tell me which klicky this chinese brave's hair comes from?
Post by: sbblabotw on May 14, 2014, 18:37:42
Here you go. All my findings in one compact list, with other notes besides.

Playmobil Part Numbers Decoded (http://playmodb.org/parts_decoded.htm)
Title: Re: can anyone tell me which klicky this chinese brave's hair comes from?
Post by: tahra on May 14, 2014, 19:50:07
That is really interesting stuff :)

Thanks for sharing!
Title: Re: can anyone tell me which klicky this chinese brave's hair comes from?
Post by: Tiermann on May 15, 2014, 06:59:58
At Animobil the Figures are numbered to correspond to the instructions sheet that comes with each figure. So the gladiator is Series 6 boy 1 or 5458-1.
I notice I don't actually have the set numbers listed. I will get that corrected in the next couple weeks after I am back from Germany.
I will have to take a look at the 30 66 and 30 67 parts and see if one of them corresponds to parts that would go through the sonic welder? A horse for instance has two parts that get assembled. A small boat hull has two parts that get welded together using the sonic welding machine and become theoretically inseparable.
Title: Re: can anyone tell me which klicky this chinese brave's hair comes from?
Post by: sbblabotw on May 15, 2014, 14:14:45
Sonic-welded parts: that would be interesting to know! Actually, jointed animals are spread over 30 65 to 30 67 - fixed that error. 30 67 does have a fair number of other complex parts, but it's hard to tell if they are welded, or screwed/clipped together. Almost all 30 51 parts, conversely, are in multiple pieces, but not meant to stay attached.
Title: Re: can anyone tell me which klicky this chinese brave's hair comes from?
Post by: GrahamB on May 15, 2014, 15:01:13
Could each Figure have its own set number, such as 5460a,  5460b, etc., like the klickies? There might be a case for aligning these numbers with the lists on Animobil too?

At Animobil the Figures are numbered to correspond to the instructions sheet that comes with each figure. So the gladiator is Series 6 boy 1 or 5458-1.

I just checked the PlaymoDB numbering of klickies from the first four Figures series (#5, 6, 7 are not in there yet). They follow the same sequence as on Animobil for Series 1 Boys, Series 1 Girls and Series 4 Girls, nearly the same sequence for Series 4 Boys (k5284a=Series 4 boy 4 and k5284d=Series 4 boy 1), but quite different sequences for both Series 2 and 3. Some of the names also differ of course. The two lists don't have to match exactly of course, but if they could it would be helpful!  :)
Title: Re: can anyone tell me which klicky this chinese brave's hair comes from?
Post by: GrahamB on May 24, 2014, 20:57:55
Yes do let us know....I hope 'Perücke-Bademütze' 30 20 5633 is black!

Yes, the 'bathing cap' hairpiece with that ETN/ part number is black, as Heather predicted. I ordered one from DS to check this out. I have some other hairpiece details (name/ style/ colour/ ETN) from the same DS order which I will share soon, but I need to make another small order to finalise some details (e.g. I ordered one Hula-Frau (Hawaiian) hairpiece to find out if the ETN I ordered was blue or black and they sent one of each, so I am none the wiser!).
Title: Re: can anyone tell me which klicky this chinese brave's hair comes from?
Post by: cheng on May 24, 2014, 23:39:15
I feel like an under graduate who wrongly sat in a PhD lecture hall  :P ....should this thread be flagged...immortalized.....or pf dedicate a sub for playmodb? I can also just drop ETN here if I think playmodb still hasn't got it and perhaps some of u experts can examine it instead of troubling Heather with an email each time. Or ask silly questions regarding playmodb here instead of troubling Heather :P and thanks for confirming the black cap! But the loads of collateral information makes this thread so invaluable...I wil return here myself someday when I start to be an inspector too :D