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General => Collector's Corner => Topic started by: Bolingbroke on September 10, 2010, 09:41:22

Title: Playmobil Collector
Post by: Bolingbroke on September 10, 2010, 09:41:22

Is this book worth buying? I'm trying to find pictures of its contents - like the Amazon 'Look Inside' facility, but I can't  :'(

Does it list every set, and give a list of its contents, a la Playmodb?

Title: Re: Playmobil Collector
Post by: playmofire on September 10, 2010, 10:03:04

It is worth buying.  It lists, with a small picture of the box every set, year by year.  Not every set is necessarily there because Axel, the compiler, may not have been able to trace every set.  The book also lists licensed items, keyrings, puzzles and other Playmobil related items, including websites.  It does not list the parts for each set like playmoDB - it weighs 0.854kg already!

Title: Re: Playmobil Collector
Post by: shirona33 on September 10, 2010, 10:05:33

Quote from: Bolingbroke on September 10, 2010, 09:41:22

Is this book worth buying? I'm trying to find pictures of its contents - like the Amazon 'Look Inside' facility, but I can't  :'(

I bought the second edition and then also the third. If there'll be a fourth I'd also buy it!

Quote from: Bolingbroke on September 10, 2010, 09:41:22

Does it list every set,

Yes, each Set, any Country, all keychains, "Exklusive Set", marchandise products,.......

Quote from: Bolingbroke on September 10, 2010, 09:41:22

and give a list of its contents, a la Playmodb?

No, only a picture, date when it started to sell and scarcity value but not in Euro. One Klicky is not rare five klickys is very rare.

Title: Re: Playmobil Collector
Post by: shirona33 on September 10, 2010, 10:08:36

Quote from: playmofire on September 10, 2010, 10:03:04

Not every set is necessarily there because Axel, the compiler, may not have been able to trace every set. 

Okay, lets say, there is any set, which Axel was able to make a picture of it. Some sets he got pics from collector's who have it. I think, there would not be many sets which are missing! ;)

Title: Re: Playmobil Collector
Post by: sbblabotw on September 10, 2010, 12:06:19

It doesn't have any of the 7000-series add-ons only available from DS, sadly. What is does have that PlaymoDB doesn't is a detailed chronology of when sets were released, and when their boxes were updated.  My copy is full of pencil notes pointing a set to its predecessor, successor or alternate version.

Title: Re: Playmobil Collector
Post by: Wolf Knight on September 10, 2010, 12:19:45

Its a great handbook to have!! Great manual!! Its certainly worth having!! I have both second and third edition!

Title: Re: Playmobil Collector
Post by: sweetking on September 10, 2010, 12:42:43

I have first and third releases. Interesting books, despite sometime too small images.

Really usefull to identify a set number and know the rarity of the set you've found on a flea market.

Title: Re: Playmobil Collector
Post by: Coyote on September 10, 2010, 12:44:27

I have the first edition.  I love it.  Read it all the time still.  I really need to get a newer one though.

Title: Re: Playmobil Collector
Post by: Bolingbroke on September 10, 2010, 12:58:02

Quote from: sbblabotw on September 10, 2010, 12:06:19

What is does have that PlaymoDB doesn't is a detailed chronology of when sets were released, and when their boxes were updated. 

But the PM official site does give you a complete chronology of all the sets released before 2006, isn't that right?

Title: Re: Playmobil Collector
Post by: Elric on September 10, 2010, 13:03:39

I have only been accumulating playmobil for a year now and recently bought the third addition collector book.  It's worth every penny. :)

Title: Re: Playmobil Collector
Post by: sweetking on September 10, 2010, 13:18:32

Quote from: Bolingbroke on September 10, 2010, 12:58:02

But the PM official site does give you a complete chronology of all the sets released before 2006, isn't that right?

not exactly, :

Playmobil's site does not list all sets (nearly all standard sets are on the website but not all)
Collector's book offers a good panorama on "foreign klickies" (Antex, Trol, Marx Toys, Schaper, etc.), exclusive sets (Kaufhof, Karstadt, Toy's R us, Real, France Loisirs, etc.), eggs, recent color figures, keyrings, merchandising, catalogues, etc.
Playmobil website just show release date in germany, not end of production date. The collector's book shows start and end dates (in Germany).

Title: Re: Playmobil Collector
Post by: Bolingbroke on September 10, 2010, 13:32:52

Ok thanks - Ill check it out.

I just wish the PM archive section weren't so lame: they could've least given us hi-res pictures of the front and back covers of the boxes. Especially the back ones. Sometimes you can't make out what is supposed to be in a set, unfortunately.

Title: Re: Playmobil Collector
Post by: grangel on September 10, 2010, 17:52:30

try to find the last edition and buy it for sure!!!

It is your bible for playmos

Title: Re: Playmobil Collector
Post by: Wolf Knight on September 10, 2010, 18:15:07

Quote from: Bolingbroke on September 10, 2010, 13:32:52

Ok thanks - Ill check it out.

I just wish the PM archive section weren't so lame: they could've least given us hi-res pictures of the front and back covers of the boxes. Especially the back ones. Sometimes you can't make out what is supposed to be in a set, unfortunately.

If you are looking for high resolution pics in collector you will not find any. They are small but easy to look at. You cannot tell what is in a set easily, and there is no back box picture. But having that as a guide of what was produced when was produced, makes it,as grangel pointed out, a bible for us  :D :D :D

Title: Re: Playmobil Collector
Post by: The_Mad_Hadder on December 08, 2016, 02:05:26

Old topic I know, but since the third edition of the collector book came out over 6 years ago, any idea if there is a new one coming out soon. I have thought about buying the third addition on E-bay, but once I found out how long ago it was made I was wondering if anyone knew if a 4th addition is in the works?

Cheers,

James

Title: Re: Playmobil Collector
Post by: playmofire on December 08, 2016, 07:43:32

Sadly, Axel Hennel, the author/compiler of the Playmobil Collector, died in 2013.

Title: Re: Playmobil Collector
Post by: The_Mad_Hadder on December 08, 2016, 17:55:21

I am sorry to hear that.

Is there a trust? I would assume that the family or a named party would own the rights to the contents of the book. Is it possible for someone else to take up the tourch and carry on with this?

Sincerely,
James C. Byrne

Title: Re: Playmobil Collector
Post by: playmofire on December 08, 2016, 19:48:40

The publishers may hold copyright or the author's heirs, but it is a massive continuation either way.  There are gaps to fill from earlier years, which must become harder and harder to do as each year passes, and new sets to add, which becomes a more and more demanding task as sets now come and go so quickly. 

In many ways, in my opinion, edition 3 covers the "classic" period of Playmobil almost exactly (it actually continues a few years after 2009). 

By the "classic" period I mean the years beginning with its introduction where there were a number of core themes produced, sets covering the theme well (e.g. figures, vehicles, buildings), with plenty of parts and accessories in them, and requiring use of imagination by the person playing with them.  Over time, sets were phased out and then later re-introduced with added refinements, but still basically following the same approach, a key part being the simple, basic figure which could be turned into different roles simply by changing hair or hats or whatever, something which also made the figures often quite non-theme specific, adding to the play and imagination value.

Increasingly, however, in more recent years, sets have become smaller, the range of items in a theme less, and accessories fewer.  At the same time, the basic figures have become more detailed through printing and interchangeable clothes, both of which limit the need for imagination and also  make them more theme specific.

I would say that the beginning of the end of the "classic" period is when Hans Beck retires in 1998 or when he dies in 2009.  Certainly, with the death of Horst Brandstatter in 2015 and the changes which followed we see the end of the "classic" period.

Title: Re: Playmobil Collector
Post by: The_Mad_Hadder on December 08, 2016, 20:05:02

playmofire,

Thank you for the information, I guess for my needs Edition 3 will help me find what sets I am missing for the themes I am collecting. Are they all in English, I ask because I see two versions on ebay.com/ebay.ca where one is a blue cover and the other grey or is one just soft cover and the other hard cover?

Sincerely,
James

Title: Re: Playmobil Collector
Post by: playmofire on December 08, 2016, 20:25:48

I have editions 1, 2 and 3, and all have a blue stripe down the left hand side and the rest of the cover pictures of Playmobil figures.

Edition 1 covers 1974 to 2000; edition 2 covers 1974 to 2006 and edition 3, 1974 to 2009.

New information on previously covered years is added (usually detail changes) and new sections are added.

Title: Re: Playmobil Collector
Post by: The_Mad_Hadder on December 08, 2016, 20:33:57

Blue cover

http://www.ebay.com/itm/PLAYMOBIL-COLLECTOR-Guide-3rd-Edition-1974-2009-/122224729085?hash=item1c75295bfd:g:wD0AAOSwImRYKJ7E

Grey cover

http://www.ebay.com/itm/PLAYMOBIL-Collectors-Guide-3rd-Edition-Ltd-Ed-English-German-/361845040616?hash=item543fa525e8:g:7acAAOSwWKtUtPgN

Title: Re: Playmobil Collector
Post by: playmofire on December 08, 2016, 20:48:09

I forgot to say, the blue cover ones are all soft backs and the grey cover one was the limited hard cover version.

They are all in German and English.

Title: Re: Playmobil Collector
Post by: The_Mad_Hadder on December 08, 2016, 20:50:56

Thank you,

Just picked up the soft cover

Sincerely,
James

Title: Re: Playmobil Collector
Post by: playmofire on December 08, 2016, 21:01:59

Glad to help, James.

Title: Re: Playmobil Collector
Post by: Hadoque on December 08, 2016, 22:01:45

A detail about the picture on the 3rd edition´s cover that James might not yet know;
The klicky in black in the lower right corner is Axel (the author) himself in Playmobil-version.
(and the priest-looking figure with long white beard is "Ikeama"´s avatar, a longtime collector and member of Klickywelt-forum)

Title: Re: Playmobil Collector
Post by: playmofire on December 08, 2016, 22:03:23

I didn't know that, Hadoque.  Thank you.    :wave:

Title: Re: Playmobil Collector
Post by: Hadoque on December 08, 2016, 22:15:19

Quote from: playmofire on December 08, 2016, 22:03:23

I didn't know that, Hadoque.  Thank you.    :wave:

Ah, you´re very welcome, Gordon  :)
(I wrongly assumed you already knew)

Title: Re: Playmobil Collector
Post by: GrahamB on December 08, 2016, 22:25:20

Quote from: The_Mad_Hadder on December 08, 2016, 20:05:02

Are they all in English

The third edition has nearly all the information in both English and German.

Axel Hennel's work on this book was tremendous. Apparently he travelled around, visiting collectors and taking pictures of set boxes for inclusion. It would take a lot of work to update it, but it would be great to have a fourth edition!

Title: Re: Playmobil Collector
Post by: Georgeag1972 on December 23, 2016, 18:38:12

Hello everybody.

On Tricornejock com. the team has created a very interesting project:

Playmobil Online COLLECTOR


The new online catalog for collectors and friends of the Klickies

There, you will be able to see on a page (pdf) all the regular and exclusive sets that playmobil has produced from 2010 to 2017, for every country!

Here is the link:

http://www.tricornejock.com/forum/app.php/page/playmobil-all-news

I think it is very interesting for all the collectors. You can join it!

Friendly George. :)

Title: Re: Playmobil Collector
Post by: GrahamB on December 24, 2016, 10:05:03

No DS items though :(

Title: Re: Playmobil Collector
Post by: Georgeag1972 on December 24, 2016, 17:04:40

Quote from: GrahamB on December 24, 2016, 10:05:03

No DS items though :(

DS sets are also there Graham! "Playmobil Derect Service". There is a pdf page only for the DS sets!

George. :)