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General => Report & Review => Topic started by: Saskia on February 26, 2009, 18:36:14

Title: Play and Collect sets 5001 Wolf Clan and 5002 Seapeople
Post by: Saskia on February 26, 2009, 18:36:14
Yesterday I received a package with the 5001 and 5002 box. The 5001 has the Wolf Clan sets 4807 to 4812 and the 5002 has the seapeople sets 4813 to 4818.

First I've made pictures of the front of the boxes.
Then the inside of one of the boxes and the back of the other.
Title: Re: Play and Collect sets 5001 Wolf Clan and 5002 Seapeople
Post by: Saskia on February 26, 2009, 18:46:30
I was surprised to see that the backs of the Wolf Clan sets and the Seapeople are all the same.  And as there are no instructions, you'll have to check the front to see if everything is there.

The next step was the unpacking, which was great fun. I was especially surprised by the color of the Wolf Clans armor.
Title: Re: Play and Collect sets 5001 Wolf Clan and 5002 Seapeople
Post by: Saskia on February 26, 2009, 18:48:21
I now realize that you can't really see the quality of the sets on these pictures. So I'll post the last ones from last night and start with making some new ones.
Title: Re: Play and Collect sets 5001 Wolf Clan and 5002 Seapeople
Post by: Indianna on February 26, 2009, 19:07:17
Hi Saskia - thanks for the photos! 

It's very helpful to see them outside of the boxes - they look wonderful!    :yup:

Title: Re: Play and Collect sets 5001 Wolf Clan and 5002 Seapeople
Post by: Saskia on February 26, 2009, 19:39:04
They sure are.

Here are some more pics.
Title: Re: Play and Collect sets 5001 Wolf Clan and 5002 Seapeople
Post by: Saskia on February 26, 2009, 19:41:17
I'll let the pictures speak for themselves.
Title: Re: Play and Collect sets 5001 Wolf Clan and 5002 Seapeople
Post by: Saskia on February 26, 2009, 20:12:05
To be honest, I had expected to like the seapeople more. But now I have them, I mus say that the Wolf Clan has mutch more appeal to me.
Title: Re: Play and Collect sets 5001 Wolf Clan and 5002 Seapeople
Post by: Saskia on February 26, 2009, 20:15:12
I haven't found anything that I didn't like about these sets. Except the missing instructions with partnummers, so it will be hard to order spare/extra parts.
Title: Re: Play and Collect sets 5001 Wolf Clan and 5002 Seapeople
Post by: Saskia on February 26, 2009, 20:18:13
These wil be the last pictures for tonight.

Tomorrow evening I'll try to make some pictures of the seapeople.
Title: Re: Play and Collect sets 5001 Wolf Clan and 5002 Seapeople
Post by: Martin Milner on February 26, 2009, 20:27:03
I love these 5001 knights more every time I see them, I'm just waiting for the opportunity to get them at a reasonable price to get at least two sets.

For my theme, I like every figure to be individual if possible, and these guys are certainly a rough bunch of misfits.

I'm amused by that big moustache on the archer!  8}
Title: Re: Play and Collect sets 5001 Wolf Clan and 5002 Seapeople
Post by: Gepetto on February 27, 2009, 03:17:12
Thank you for the photos Saskia, a very interesting group indeed!



Gepetto
Title: Re: Play and Collect sets 5001 Wolf Clan and 5002 Seapeople
Post by: Justindo on February 27, 2009, 05:03:52
I was hoping the black feathers were a different type.  This disappoints me.
Title: Re: Play and Collect sets 5001 Wolf Clan and 5002 Seapeople
Post by: BlueWizard on February 27, 2009, 17:14:21
Thank you for posting those great pictures, Saskia... I hadn't noticed the great designs on the shields before.  Both the Seafolk and the brassy knights sets look super... hopefully they will be reasonably priced (???) by the time they arrive on these shores!

David
Title: Re: Play and Collect sets 5001 Wolf Clan and 5002 Seapeople
Post by: Rasputin on February 27, 2009, 17:19:16
The more i see the coloration of the armor the more i want a lot of these . Thanks for the pictures
Title: Re: Play and Collect sets 5001 Wolf Clan and 5002 Seapeople
Post by: Gepetto on February 27, 2009, 19:01:44
The more i see the coloration of the armor the more i want a lot of these . Thanks for the pictures

Rasputin, I think the more you see of any Playmobil the more you want a lot of them! :lol: :lol:

I sure am glad I am not like that! 0)



Gepetto
Title: Re: Play and Collect sets 5001 Wolf Clan and 5002 Seapeople
Post by: Rasputin on February 27, 2009, 19:08:31
Rasputin, I think the more you see of any Playmobil the more you want a lot of them! :lol: :lol:

I sure am glad I am not like that! 0)



Gepetto

I will not deny that any time soon , after i saw Richard's collection, he offered a reverse mortgage and i am still patiently waiting  :D

On a different note or to stay on topic,  i do not remember who or where t was mentioned but i agree those sea horses look more and more like something from Barbie
Title: Re: Play and Collect sets 5001 Wolf Clan and 5002 Seapeople
Post by: cachalote on February 27, 2009, 19:33:04
it's the eyes rasputin.  8}
if you ignore it, they actually look a lot like the real hippocampus
  :yup:
Title: Re: Play and Collect sets 5001 Wolf Clan and 5002 Seapeople
Post by: Saskia on February 28, 2009, 21:52:03
Well, I have to agree about both counts. They do look like the real animal, but also have a Barbie-ish look. But to let you better judge. Here are some pics (sorry they're later than planned).
Title: Re: Play and Collect sets 5001 Wolf Clan and 5002 Seapeople
Post by: Saskia on February 28, 2009, 21:52:57
And the last two.
Title: Re: Play and Collect sets 5001 Wolf Clan and 5002 Seapeople
Post by: CountBogro on March 02, 2009, 11:49:59
sigh ... another must have for me ...
Wonder where I am going to find all the money to get it all  :-[

Bogro
Title: Re: Play and Collect sets 5001 Wolf Clan and 5002 Seapeople
Post by: Klickus Mobilius on March 04, 2009, 08:42:17
I like the Wolf Clan.  Very cool.

I notice the large shield for left-handed klickies has appeared under another incarnation again.  What is Playmobil thinking?  I guess in this context, it's okay since the theme does not lend itself to building a large army of which an entire group is composed of lefties.

Not that there's anything wrong with that... :toot:
Title: Re: Play and Collect sets 5001 Wolf Clan and 5002 Seapeople
Post by: Martin Milner on March 04, 2009, 10:25:48
Errr....you did read the lengthy explanation of the pavise shield that I took the trouble (and about an hour) to write in response to your last query about this shield, right KM?

I sure hope you did, but your response above suggests not or else you've forgotten it, so here it is again:

We've had quite a discussion over this shield and it's apparent wrong-handedness.

My conclusion is that the original shield (I think it first appeared in Set 3651, thanks Playmodb) was designed as a Pavise or wall shield, the sort of static shield a crossbowman would carry to within bow range of a castle walls during a siege, then shelter behind while preparing his shot, and expose his head & shoulders over the top of while shooting.

(http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd97/Martin_Milner/Balestriere1.jpg)(http://demandware.edgesuite.net/aabe_prd/on/demandware.static/Sites-DE-Site/Sites-Catalog/de_DE/v1235885538028/imagesOnline/archiv_products/3651-1.jpg)

The klicky should carry the pavise within crossbow range of the target, put it down and shield behind it, while getting his bowshot ready.  A Pavise was large and heavy, so it is reasonable that the handhold was on the dominant side.

For this purpose it's ideal, but even the person setting up the packshot was confused by the handhold, and put the shield in the klicky's right hand (which is also twisted backwards) and crossbow awkwardly in his left, maybe because the figure designer had give the klicky an eyepatch on the right eye. It's been causing confusion ever since.

The pavise shield is still used correctly for crossbowmen, the most recent use in set 4808 of the Wolf Knight collection, though this klicky has a short bow (oops Playmobil).


In the case of this blister pack, originally Specials 4560 & 4632, Playmobil were really just testing the water for the potential interest in a Roman theme and nothing was quite right, they were just using existing pieces to create something like a legionary. This shield was the closest they had to the classic Roman shield.

Here's the use I put these blister figures to:

(http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd97/Martin_Milner/Roman%20Layouts/IMGP9809.jpg)
(http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd97/Martin_Milner/Roman%20Layouts/IMGP9815.jpg)
Title: Re: Play and Collect sets 5001 Wolf Clan and 5002 Seapeople
Post by: Klickus Mobilius on March 04, 2009, 16:46:08
Errr....you did read the lengthy explanation of the pavise shield that I took the trouble (and about an hour) to write in response to your last query about this shield, right KM?

I sure hope you did, but your response above suggests not or else you've forgotten it,

I read your wonderful and detailed explanation of the pavise shield.  I even complimented your creative use of it and said that I liked what you did.

My point here is that I disagree with Playmobil's continued use of that shield design.  If they use it again in some future theme, I will call attention to it again because I don't particularly care for it.  (Hm.  Perhaps I should write to them directly.)  But anyway, if or when this left-handed shield reappears, expect me to once again take exception to it.
Title: Re: Play and Collect sets 5001 Wolf Clan and 5002 Seapeople
Post by: Amd on March 04, 2009, 17:44:04

yeaph... thats a pavise shield... thanks for the information...

pd: martin i like the way you use the centurion, like an auxiliar archer... thanks for the idea!!!
Title: Re: Play and Collect sets 5001 Wolf Clan and 5002 Seapeople
Post by: nicki72 on March 04, 2009, 18:17:14
Well, I have to agree about both counts. They do look like the real animal, but also have a Barbie-ish look. But to let you better judge. Here are some pics (sorry they're later than planned).

Thanks for the photos!
Well, Barbie-ish or not, I really like this set!  Must come from having two girls (well, and being one myself! :P).  I'm sure it's the colors that make us think Barbie, as well as the "pearly" look of it...but it does have appeal!  I'm sure that the girls and I must have this set!

I don't know much about the knights and such, but I really like the color of this armour!  Most of the Knights at our house serve to protect the Fairytale castle--with the Wolf Knights and the pirates usually playing the bad guys!  ;D  I guess we're just girly!  :lol:
Title: Re: Play and Collect sets 5001 Wolf Clan and 5002 Seapeople
Post by: Martin Milner on March 04, 2009, 19:59:44
I read your wonderful and detailed explanation of the pavise shield.  I even complimented your creative use of it and said that I liked what you did.

My point here is that I disagree with Playmobil's continued use of that shield design.  If they use it again in some future theme, I will call attention to it again because I don't particularly care for it.  (Hm.  Perhaps I should write to them directly.)  But anyway, if or when this left-handed shield reappears, expect me to once again take exception to it.

 ;D Fair enough, or as we say round these parts, Fairy Snuff.  ;D

My feeling is that for an archer it's OK, because an archer (or crossbowman) carries the shield into battle, plonks it down, and hides behind it. At least for this wolf knight set they gave it to the archer.

For the Roman Special it was a cop out, because it was the closest thing they had to the rectangular Roman shield in shape, and they didn't want to design a new shield. They had had new pieces for other specials, so there was no reason not to, but they didn't. 

I've now got abot 25 of these green pavise shields, and I'm not sure whether I'm going to keep using them for the Romans, or set them aside for another project.
Title: Re: Play and Collect sets 5001 Wolf Clan and 5002 Seapeople
Post by: Little Jo on March 04, 2009, 21:29:43
Thanks for this review!

Sad to hear that there are no instructions because I planned to order the animals (wolves and large sea horses) ... now I must think about buying them although I'm not interested that much in knights or undersea tales ...  :-\
Title: Re: Play and Collect sets 5001 Wolf Clan and 5002 Seapeople
Post by: Rasputin on March 05, 2009, 19:56:02
Thanks for this review!

Sad to hear that there are no instructions because I planned to order the animals (wolves and large sea horses) ... now I must think about buying them although I'm not interested that much in knights or undersea tales ...  :-\

I know anytime i could not find a part # i simply ask the order-taker @ DS to get the #. I would provide the set#, a detailed description & color and usually they could figure it out .
Title: Re: Play and Collect sets 5001 Wolf Clan and 5002 Seapeople
Post by: Little Jo on March 06, 2009, 06:04:28
You do this by phone or in written form?
Title: Re: Play and Collect sets 5001 Wolf Clan and 5002 Seapeople
Post by: sbblabotw on March 09, 2009, 00:21:02
Thanks for this review!

Sad to hear that there are no instructions because I planned to order the animals (wolves and large sea horses) ... now I must think about buying them although I'm not interested that much in knights or undersea tales ...  :-\

For a short time there were text-lists of part numbers at the set pages for the Sammelspass sets at playmobil.de, and I managed to get them into PlaymoDB before they were taken off.

PlaymoDB List - Sammelspass (http://playmodb.org/cgi-bin/your_set_list.pl?setlist=4807,4808,4809,4810,4811,4812,4813,4814,4815,4816,4817,4818;title=Sammelspass)

I had to translate them from German, without pictures, so use at your own risk - customizer already found one error, which I've fixed, but there might be more.  I also don't know which colour of the small seahorses is which, since all of them just said "Seepferd"!  The wolves are all different, too, but they don't look that much different to me in the pictures.

Any numbers anyone discovers that I don't have, please pass them along.  Thanks!
Title: Re: Play and Collect sets 5001 Wolf Clan and 5002 Seapeople
Post by: Little Jo on March 09, 2009, 05:42:12
Ah, thanks for the info. The I will place an order and see what comes back.  ;D
Title: Re: Play and Collect sets 5001 Wolf Clan and 5002 Seapeople
Post by: Amd on March 09, 2009, 07:24:51
thanks to a friend in germany i got the dark knigth set in souther california!!!

they are pretty nice indeed...


but i regret to inform i broke all the pices and made some customs...

For a short time there were text-lists of part numbers at the set pages for the Sammelspass sets at playmobil.de, and I managed to get them into PlaymoDB before they were taken off.

PlaymoDB List - Sammelspass (http://playmodb.org/cgi-bin/your_set_list.pl?setlist=4807,4808,4809,4810,4811,4812,4813,4814,4815,4816,4817,4818;title=Sammelspass)

I had to translate them from German, without pictures, so use at your own risk - customizer already found one error, which I've fixed, but there might be more.  I also don't know which colour of the small seahorses is which, since all of them just said "Seepferd"!  The wolves are all different, too, but they don't look that much different to me in the pictures.

Any numbers anyone discovers that I don't have, please pass them along.  Thanks!

is an honor to meet you sbblabotw..
Title: Re: Play and Collect sets 5001 Wolf Clan and 5002 Seapeople
Post by: Rasputin on March 09, 2009, 13:11:09
You do this by phone or in written form?

I place all my orders however long by phone .
Title: Re: Play and Collect sets 5001 Wolf Clan and 5002 Seapeople
Post by: Amd on March 09, 2009, 15:36:26
I place all my orders however long by phone .

 :lol: :lol: :lol: sometimes i call them before posting an order to know if they have a piece or not, and i keep them in the phone long long time to tell them at the end that i will call them back  :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: Play and Collect sets 5001 Wolf Clan and 5002 Seapeople
Post by: Little Jo on March 09, 2009, 21:46:05
REespect for the patience ... not only yours but also of the agent.

I prefer just placing my order by e-mail (or from the DS shop in case the parts are available in the spare parts section) and let me surprise which piece had been available and what are the total costs. Most times I have a quite good guess differing just about 10 Euros or so.
Title: Re: Play and Collect sets 5001 Wolf Clan and 5002 Seapeople
Post by: Miguel on March 10, 2009, 11:54:34
For my theme, I like every figure to be individual if possible, and these guys are certainly a rough bunch of misfits.

I also prefer to have a "band" rather than an army :) I guess it evokes the personality of each character, what (at least for me) enriches the "whole picture"  ;)

And thanks for the pictures Saskia, I didn't know these sets, but I guess I've become extremely attracted to the Wolf Clan!  :D
Title: Re: Play and Collect sets 5001 Wolf Clan and 5002 Seapeople
Post by: Klickus Mobilius on March 11, 2009, 08:22:22
I also prefer to have a "band" rather than an army :) I guess it evokes the personality of each character, what (at least for me) enriches the "whole picture"  ;)


My feelings exactly!

But then, I have neither the space nor the finances for an army.
Title: Re: Play and Collect sets 5001 Wolf Clan and 5002 Seapeople
Post by: Amd on March 13, 2009, 23:50:54
REespect for the patience ... not only yours but also of the agent.

I prefer just placing my order by e-mail (or from the DS shop in case the parts are available in the spare parts section) and let me surprise which piece had been available and what are the total costs. Most times I have a quite good guess differing just about 10 Euros or so.

and how long you suppose to wait for them to answer you?, i place an order by mail at the beginning of the week, and they haven't answer my mail... is this normal??
Title: Re: Play and Collect sets 5001 Wolf Clan and 5002 Seapeople
Post by: CountBogro on March 14, 2009, 08:53:16
To be honest; I only receive a e-mail from them if there's something wrong with the order.
Otherwise there's suddenly a package in the post and some money deducted from the bankaccount ...

Bogro
Title: Re: Play and Collect sets 5001 Wolf Clan and 5002 Seapeople
Post by: Tiermann on March 19, 2009, 23:30:21
oh drat, pink seashells. Now I have to go update my database again. I like thew wolf sets better but will end up with all of them I'm sure.
Title: Re: Play and Collect sets 5001 Wolf Clan and 5002 Seapeople
Post by: CountBogro on March 20, 2009, 07:44:51
The wolves aren't new then, Tim?
Title: Re: Play and Collect sets 5001 Wolf Clan and 5002 Seapeople
Post by: sbblabotw on March 20, 2009, 16:08:34
The wolves aren't new then, Tim?
The numbers are new.  (One of them probably came with the special 4644 - Warrior with Wolf (http://playmodb.org/cgi-bin/showinv.pl?setnum=4644) but I don't know which one.) I'm looking forward to clear photos of each.
Title: Re: Play and Collect sets 5001 Wolf Clan and 5002 Seapeople
Post by: Tiermann on March 22, 2009, 16:49:01
All of the wolves are new. :) If you notice - the one in the special has a closed mouth and all of the new ones have open mouths, so totally different mold and would have a different number.
Title: Re: Play and Collect sets 5001 Wolf Clan and 5002 Seapeople
Post by: CountBogro on March 23, 2009, 04:58:41
All of the wolves are new. :) If you notice - the one in the special has a closed mouth and all of the new ones have open mouths, so totally different mold and would have a different number.
Poor Tim; 12 more to collect  ;D
Title: Re: Play and Collect sets 5001 Wolf Clan and 5002 Seapeople
Post by: Richard on April 25, 2009, 20:10:25



To be honest, I had expected to like the seapeople more. But now I have them, I mus say that the Wolf Clan has mutch more appeal to me.



Great review, Saskia !!!

I noticed that some of the figures in the new Drachenland theme also seem to have the same "burnished" looking armour. Maybe someone at Playmobil likes Dungeons and Dragons or Warhammer ... ;)

And, thanks for your review of the Merpeople. "Barbieish" or not, they will fit pefectly into my slowly growing "Atlantis" theme ... :)

All the best,
Richard