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Title: Removing klicky hands?
Post by: mwilbury on April 11, 2010, 04:09:26
This topic has probably been covered, but I couldn't find it in a search. . . is there an easy way to pop the hands out of the arms? 
Title: Re: Removing klicky hands?
Post by: Martin Milner on April 11, 2010, 05:57:44
Not without breaking the arms unfortunately. They are molded in.
Title: Re: Removing klicky hands?
Post by: Wolf Knight on April 11, 2010, 07:55:03
I tried it sometimes withterrible results...if the arm would not crack, the hand would be VERY loose in another arm making it frustrating to try and make the klicky hold something steady....
Title: Re: Removing klicky hands?
Post by: reylocann on April 14, 2010, 03:40:27
 :wave:

I have actually had some success removing hands.... I had to change the skin colour of one of my klickys and got the hands out without too much trouble.  It was an older klicky - probably late 80's early 90's.  I used a special pair of needle nose pliers [the have a foam like material in the jaws]. I grabbed the wrist below the hand and  gently rocked it back and forth using moderate pressure and the hand popped out without visible damage to the wrist or hand. The opening in the arm did widen a bit [a mm or so], however, the replacement hand still had to be "popped" in and was fairly secure.  To be on the safe side I warmed the joint and "tightened" it back around the hand. 

Rey
Title: Re: Removing klicky hands?
Post by: Wolf Knight on April 14, 2010, 05:28:44
To be on the safe side I warmed the joint and "tightened" it back around the hand. 

Havent thought of that....good idea!!!
Title: Re: Removing klicky hands?
Post by: Bill Blackhurst on April 14, 2010, 11:51:09
:wave:

I have actually had some success removing hands.... I had to change the skin colour of one of my klickys and got the hands out without too much trouble.  It was an older klicky - probably late 80's early 90's.  I used a special pair of needle nose pliers [the have a foam like material in the jaws]. I grabbed the wrist below the hand and  gently rocked it back and forth using moderate pressure and the hand popped out without visible damage to the wrist or hand. The opening in the arm did widen a bit [a mm or so], however, the replacement hand still had to be "popped" in and was fairly secure.  To be on the safe side I warmed the joint and "tightened" it back around the hand. 

Rey


Excellent Rey, you've discovered my secret :)9! I've done it the same way with satisfying results! I have adapted a small section of rubber hose slid onto the donor hand & used needle nosed pliers in the same fashion. After installing the different Klicky hands this is the procedure I use. I cover the newly installed hand & forearm leaving a 1/4" uncovered wrist area with cold wet linen cloths to prevent over heating of the surrounding areas, then position a hair dryer set on medium depending on the hair dryer to soften the plastic in the wrist area. When you start to see the plastic "mend" from the heat, stop, & quickly use a dry cloth to press the wrist area to tighten it around new hand. I also use a hair dryer set on medium to make white stress marks disappear on damaged vehicles also. My wife's hair dryer is in use a lot, but not for beauty purposes ;)!
Title: Re: Removing klicky hands?
Post by: WarriorOfToys on April 14, 2010, 13:22:08
Thanks for the tips Bill and Rey! :)

I assume that your heating tecnique, Bill,
Would work for other things like... bending hats?
Title: Re: Removing klicky hands?
Post by: Bill Blackhurst on April 14, 2010, 13:50:31
Thanks for the tips Bill and Rey! :)

I assume that your heating tecnique, Bill,
Would work for other things like... bending hats?

Most definitely WoT! I strongly recommend that practice is made using a comparable thickness & type of scrap plastic to prevent damage to a valuable item, & to perfect your bending skills! I don't recommend using a heat gun due to extreme heat being able to disform items severely, however I use the one I have for projects, but rarely. I use "the hair dryer :evilplan:" for setting decals, removing decals, bending parts, drying large batches of used parts received from eBay after washing, shrinking heat wrap plastic, really there isn't a day that I don't plug it in to use on my Playmobil projects! Great investment, plus it drys my wife's hair  ;)!
Title: Re: Removing klicky hands?
Post by: WarriorOfToys on April 14, 2010, 17:09:37
Hmmmm... ;D
Well in that case there may be a few new customs comming out soon... ;)

I just thought,
Couldn't you heat the arm before removing the hand,
And pull it out, widening the hole a little, but fix it when the new hand is in place?
Title: Re: Removing klicky hands?
Post by: Wolf Knight on April 14, 2010, 17:16:05
Great technic Bill!!! Certainly worth trying with the hands... I use the hair drier for the items i washed but never thought about it like that...although it crossed my mind when i saw a spear bending from over heating....
Title: Re: Removing klicky hands?
Post by: Bill Blackhurst on April 14, 2010, 19:00:50
Hmmmm... ;D
Well in that case there may be a few new customs comming out soon... ;)

I just thought,
Couldn't you heat the arm before removing the hand,
And pull it out, widening the hole a little, but fix it when the new hand is in place?

I've done that additional process too, WoT! One word of caution is use the exact same process by keeping the hand & forearm areas cool to prevent softening the wrong sections by using the cool wet linens! You can also adjust the heating of the plastic by distance of the hair dryer to the plastic surface. BE VERY CAREFUL, too close & results may prove disastrous!
Title: Re: Removing klicky hands?
Post by: Gepetto on April 15, 2010, 00:21:53
My wife's hair dryer is in use a lot, but not for beauty purposes ;)!

But beauty is in the eye of the beholder!  :D  :wave:
Title: Re: Removing klicky hands?
Post by: Tricornejock on April 22, 2010, 10:32:00
 :wave: Hello,

i explain you here with some pictures a technique I use myself to remove correctly a hands of Klickys.

Use preferences recent figures, the plastic is more flexible than the old. You can too also warm up before the arm with a source of hot air, like hair dryer, heat gun, radiator, etc...

Important: Be sure that the new hands are the same as those to replace, because a part that enters in the arm is sometime different (Bigger, smaller, longer, shorter).

The rest follows with the pictures because it is sometimes better than write too much and my english is a little poor.

Friendly ;)
TJ

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Title: Re: Removing klicky hands?
Post by: Wolf Knight on April 22, 2010, 14:51:05
Very interesting....have to try it....
Title: Re: Removing klicky hands?
Post by: flatcat on April 22, 2010, 14:56:20
Thanks for posting this Tricornejock :)9
I'll have to try this myself as I have a couple of poor klickies with broken hands :'(
Title: Re: Removing klicky hands?
Post by: Bill Blackhurst on April 22, 2010, 15:15:47
And yet another excellent method, TJ :)9! Thank you for this additional method, now we have several different ones to choose from!
Title: Re: Removing klicky hands?
Post by: playmo1989 on April 22, 2010, 15:41:54
intresting i'am gonna try it but i think it depends on the clicky how well is the hand on the clicky like the heads sometimes you can remove a head with your hand other you need pilers ! if i'am saying nonsense correct me :-[
Title: Re: Removing klicky hands?
Post by: Gepetto on April 23, 2010, 03:50:38
Very clever method, must try this out!  :wave:
Title: Re: Removing klicky hands?
Post by: Andy R on April 23, 2010, 06:44:46
What I did was take a pair of pliers and left the body assembled to pull the unwanted hands out of the wanted arms. Then the hands I wanted to keep I cut out of the arms (taking care of course not to cut the hands themselves.
Not every one of these has come out right; More than a few have been loose. It’s kind of a crap shoot.
Good luck to you.
Title: Re: Removing klicky hands?
Post by: mwilbury on April 23, 2010, 19:43:54
Some great reference material here.  Thanks for sharing!
Title: Re: Removing klicky hands?
Post by: Bill Blackhurst on April 23, 2010, 19:50:01
intresting i'am gonna try it but i think it depends on the clicky how well is the hand on the clicky like the heads sometimes you can remove a head with your hand other you need pilers ! if i'am saying nonsense correct me :-[

You have hit on a very valuable point of reference playmo1989! I have found that not all of the designs of Klicky hands are the same, so between all of the different procedures of removal here, I'm sure the operation will be a success to any Klicky  ;)!
Title: Re: Removing klicky hands?
Post by: Wolf Knight on April 23, 2010, 20:00:32
You have hit on a very valuable point of reference playmo1989! I have found that not all of the designs of Klicky hands are the same, so between all of the different procedures of removal here, I'm sure the operation will be a success to any Klicky  ;)!

So.... lets pull out some hands eh???  ;D ;D ;D I'll go with the klickies that have their arms cracked a bit.... Any thread of how to repair cracked arms btw???
Title: Re: Removing klicky hands?
Post by: Bill Blackhurst on April 23, 2010, 21:26:43
So.... lets pull out some hands eh???  ;D ;D ;D I'll go with the klickies that have their arms cracked a bit.... Any thread of how to repair cracked arms btw???
If the arm is severely discolored, you can always use my hair dryer method to heat the plastic & fade the white discoloration before gluing it. Next spread the cracked plastic after inserting a new hand & use "Plastruct" "Plastic Weld" Plastic Glue available @ most hobby shops, to both sides of the cracked area. Clamp the arm using a small hobby vise or equivalent. Be sure to use the glue sparingly & do not get glue on the hand. If this happens the arm plastic & hand plastic will join together and the hand won't move  :o! Leave the arm in the clamped position until it is dry usually 24 hours.  If any glue shows after it is dry, take some 1500 or 2000 grit wet or dry sand paper & smooth the area affected. Next polish the sanded area by rubbing the affected arm with some automotive rubbing compound medium/course grade dabbed on a rag. Continue to polish the area until the sanding marks are gone.
Title: Re: Removing klicky hands?
Post by: Wolf Knight on April 24, 2010, 05:11:57
Great advice Bill !!! I'll look for the glue next time I'll visit the local hobby store!!!  :)9 :)9 :)9
Title: Re: Removing klicky hands?
Post by: gchunowitz on August 02, 2023, 15:37:07
Old post, I know. It took me quite a bit or experimentation, but wanted to let everyone know there is a way to remove hands without cracking the arm. The arm needs to be heated with a heat gun on the 3-4 setting (just below medium) for about 20 seconds. Ideally, you rotate the heat around the wrist continuously so as not to focus the heat on one point. The hand then comes out smoothly and the other hand needs to go in immediately while the plastic is still warm. If the original hand does not come out with little effort, don't force it. Instead, heat up the wrist some more until the hand comes out with almost no force. I have now completed this process several times, the only downside is that sometimes the hand can be a little loose, but this can be avoided by not heating the wrist up too much. This process takes some practice so I recommend using some throw away arms to get the hang of it. The temperature and time are the hardest part to get right, but I would start off halfway between low and medium setting on the heat gun and for about 15 seconds and play with the time/temperature to perfect the process. Good luck, if anyone is even reading this...lol
Title: Re: Removing klicky hands?
Post by: Klickteryx on August 02, 2023, 20:37:45
Thankyou for your method. What gun do you use in case different ones have different heat settings?