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Title: 5107 - Knabstrupper Horse and 5109 - Haflinger Horse
Post by: Tiermann on January 17, 2012, 06:06:05
These are the only two horses of this series I have so far. I am going to do them together in this one review.

First the 5107 set

(http://animobil.info/playmo/5107-5109/5107-1.jpg)

The Knabstrupper set is put together as a training set with a lead halter and a whip thingy.
Title: Re: 5107 - Knabstrupper Horse and 5109 - Haflinger Horse
Post by: Tiermann on January 17, 2012, 06:07:03
The horse is a nice one and I like the colors a lot.

(http://animobil.info/playmo/5107-5109/5107-2.jpg)
I just noticed that for some reason I have an old style head halter on in this image and the old style saddle, you can see it doesn't fit quite right.

The Klicky is also nice. I really like the boots with the side straps, I guess those would be some sort of spats

(http://animobil.info/playmo/5107-5109/5107-3.jpg)
Title: Re: 5107 - Knabstrupper Horse and 5109 - Haflinger Horse
Post by: Tiermann on January 17, 2012, 06:08:24
Here is the 5109 Haflinger set, it's clearly a riding set with all the usual tack for that

(http://animobil.info/playmo/5107-5109/5109-1.jpg)
Title: Re: 5107 - Knabstrupper Horse and 5109 - Haflinger Horse
Post by: Tiermann on January 17, 2012, 06:10:15
The Haflinger is a nice color, but those keys at the hoofs when seen on the inside bug me a bit. It's not noticeable on the all white Knabstrupper

(http://animobil.info/playmo/5107-5109/5109-2.jpg)

The Klicky in this set is also a good one and seems very much right for a working rider, she reminds me a lot of the women with horses I have known here in Oregon.

(http://animobil.info/playmo/5107-5109/5109-3.jpg)

(http://animobil.info/playmo/5107-5109/5109-4.jpg)
Title: Re: 5107 - Knabstrupper Horse and 5109 - Haflinger Horse
Post by: Tiermann on January 17, 2012, 06:13:14
Here is an oldest type saddle and the equestrian saddle that both fit the older horses, and on the right the new saddle style to fit these new horses

(http://animobil.info/playmo/5107-5109/5107-9-1.jpg)

And here is the head part of the tack the old style on the left and hte new style on the right

(http://animobil.info/playmo/5107-5109/5107-9-2.jpg)
Title: Re: 5107 - Knabstrupper Horse and 5109 - Haflinger Horse
Post by: Tiermann on January 17, 2012, 06:15:33
Here is a break down of the stall parts. Pretty simple construction and quite sturdy when together. It doesn't take up much space for storage when flattened.

(http://animobil.info/playmo/5107-5109/5107-9-3.jpg)
Title: Re: 5107 - Knabstrupper Horse and 5109 - Haflinger Horse
Post by: Tiermann on January 17, 2012, 06:16:36
Here is the 5107 complete set again

(http://animobil.info/playmo/5107-5109/5107-9-4.jpg)

and the 5109

(http://animobil.info/playmo/5107-5109/5107-9-5.jpg)
Title: Re: 5107 - Knabstrupper Horse and 5109 - Haflinger Horse
Post by: Tiermann on January 17, 2012, 06:19:39
Finally here is a shot of the stalls next to each other and seen from the outside.

(http://animobil.info/playmo/5107-5109/5107-9-6.jpg)

When first seeing the sets in the catalog I didn't like the stall that much and it obviously brings the price up for the set. Having had them now in person I have completely changed my mind. I love the stalls and think they work great. With 2 of the six stalls in red and two green you can be sure they will be showing up one day as reindeer stalls at Santa's castle.

I am still undecided about the horses. They are very different and take some getting used to. I didn't like the second version horses much when they first came out but adjusted to them fine over time. I'm sure once I get more used to seeing this style it will seem more natural. Clearly from the new pony farm series coming out they have committed to going this route for horses in the near future.
Title: Re: 5107 - Knabstrupper Horse and 5109 - Haflinger Horse
Post by: Wolf Knight on January 17, 2012, 07:57:03
Thank you for these pics, Tim! Not really interested in the whole set, but it would be nice to get a few of those horses from DS.
Title: Re: 5107 - Knabstrupper Horse and 5109 - Haflinger Horse
Post by: kaethe on January 17, 2012, 08:14:34
Tim
Thank you for the wonderful farm set reviews, they are so detailed, and I love your style.  It is interesting how the animals have evolved, with curved bodies and eyes, it does seem to give them more character, the brown bunny seems to be looking at you, the cats are more cat-like around the klicky legs.  Looking forward to seeing the expansion of the reindeer stalls next Christmas. 
kaethe
Title: Re: 5107 - Knabstrupper Horse and 5109 - Haflinger Horse
Post by: tahra on January 17, 2012, 08:49:41
Thanks for the pics (again).

I don't like the stalls - I mean, they bring up the price, and don't add much.. For a non-fave theme, we have TOO MUCH of riding stuff.. But I LOVED your idea of using them for Santa!

@Wolf Knight: we got one of the horsies from DS, and plan to get two more (at least)...
Title: Re: 5107 - Knabstrupper Horse and 5109 - Haflinger Horse
Post by: Giorginetto on January 17, 2012, 13:36:18
Thank you for the excellent review Sir !! As I love and enjoy horserding , i am very tempted to get at least a couple of these equastrian sets !!!  :love: :love:
Title: Re: 5107 - Knabstrupper Horse and 5109 - Haflinger Horse
Post by: bonniebeth on January 17, 2012, 13:45:06
Thanks for the review Tim! I really love the klickys in these sets. These are moving higher and higher on my priority list, thanks to you and Tenni.
Title: Re: 5107 - Knabstrupper Horse and 5109 - Haflinger Horse
Post by: Skywalker on January 17, 2012, 14:18:39
Thx for the great review.
Title: Re: 5107 - Knabstrupper Horse and 5109 - Haflinger Horse
Post by: basilsdad on January 17, 2012, 14:27:58
Thanks again for the great review and pictures, Tim.  As I was reading, I was wondering what the stalls would look like side by side and as I scrolled down there they were!  I love the new colors of the horses and the riders are pretty neat too.
Joe
Title: Re: 5107 - Knabstrupper Horse and 5109 - Haflinger Horse
Post by: conniefrere on January 17, 2012, 17:28:12
Great review. Those horses do look very nice. I womder how they would fit with a chariot.
Title: Re: 5107 - Knabstrupper Horse and 5109 - Haflinger Horse
Post by: Tiermann on January 17, 2012, 18:44:17
The saddle part wouldn't fit very well, but there is a new wagon in the Pony Farm series coming out in 2012. It will fit correctly and the traces from the chariot will probably connect fine.
Title: Re: 5107 - Knabstrupper Horse and 5109 - Haflinger Horse
Post by: Luis on January 17, 2012, 21:44:18
I don't like the stalls - I mean, they bring up the price, and don't add much..

yeah, i don't love them either, i think they're a little unnecessary - i got mine last year through German ebay and even requested the seller to send the horses with saddles alone but she said shipping would be the same with or without the stables, so i got them all mib...when i opened them the first thing i did was put the accesories on the horses and admire them - i never checked the stables... 8}
Title: Re: 5107 - Knabstrupper Horse and 5109 - Haflinger Horse
Post by: bonniebeth on January 17, 2012, 21:56:04
I actually really like the stables, except I would prefer if they were all the same colors so they could all be connected to make a nice row. Also, it would be nice if the easily connected to a barn set, or had a section you could order as an add-on to give them a roof and make a proper horse barn.
Title: Re: 5107 - Knabstrupper Horse and 5109 - Haflinger Horse
Post by: PlaymoMan on January 17, 2012, 22:03:46
I absolutely LOVE the new horses. So much of an improvement from the previous one. :love:
Those klickies are gorgeous, also.
Title: Re: 5107 - Knabstrupper Horse and 5109 - Haflinger Horse
Post by: Lindama on January 18, 2012, 00:30:35
I am really liking these. I am pleased about the finer details coming out in the playmobil animals but I do agree, the way the white keys show up on the brown horse diminishes the beauty and seems a bit of a clumsy mistake. I think I need to invest in at least one of these - hmm, but which one.
Title: Re: 5107 - Knabstrupper Horse and 5109 - Haflinger Horse
Post by: tenni on January 18, 2012, 01:16:09
Thanks very much for these pictures and the great review! The Haflinger is on my list, but I now that I see that little "white key" part, I'm wondering if it will bug me (probably not bad enough to skip the set  ;D). The Knabstrupper is a "must buy". Looks great.

I actually really like the stables, except I would prefer if they were all the same colors so they could all be connected to make a nice row. Also, it would be nice if the easily connected to a barn set, or had a section you could order as an add-on to give them a roof and make a proper horse barn.

I agree. I had low expectations for the stables, but I really like them! An add-on type barn to put them all in would be great.
Title: Re: 5107 - Knabstrupper Horse and 5109 - Haflinger Horse
Post by: tahra on January 18, 2012, 08:31:33
but I do agree, the way the white keys show up on the brown horse diminishes the beauty and seems a bit of a clumsy mistake.

Do notice those white bits WERE NOT in the promo shots or the box.. I made pics of those when I got my first... That was a cheap pub stunt, imo....
Title: Re: 5107 - Knabstrupper Horse and 5109 - Haflinger Horse
Post by: playmofire on January 18, 2012, 14:35:12
The horse is a nice one and I like the colors a lot.

(http://animobil.info/playmo/5107-5109/5107-2.jpg)
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The Klicky is also nice. I really like the boots with the side straps, I guess those would be some sort of spats

(http://animobil.info/playmo/5107-5109/5107-3.jpg)

I think the technical term is gaiters.
Title: Re: 5107 - Knabstrupper Horse and 5109 - Haflinger Horse
Post by: playmofire on January 18, 2012, 14:43:55
A nice review, Tim, and I think the reindeer idea will look superb.

The white spot is where the hoof is injected in the moulding process, so it can't be avoided I imagine.

The stalls are aimed at the keen horse collector, I imagine, so what pleases one person upsets another.

I think the "whippy thing" with the Kanbstrupper set is used in training the horse on the rein.  I'm sure I used to see an old friend who bred horses standing in her paddock with the horse on a rein trotting round her in a circle.  In her free hand she had a "whippy thing" and would just hold it out to touch the horses's chest to slow it down.
Title: Re: 5107 - Knabstrupper Horse and 5109 - Haflinger Horse
Post by: tahra on January 18, 2012, 15:42:29
The white spot is where the hoof is injected in the moulding process, so it can't be avoided I imagine.

Well, they avoided it well enough in promo shots, box..
Title: Re: 5107 - Knabstrupper Horse and 5109 - Haflinger Horse
Post by: playmofire on January 18, 2012, 16:03:07
Well, they avoided it well enough in promo shots, box..

They could have been hand made ones with maybe the white painted on.
Title: Re: 5107 - Knabstrupper Horse and 5109 - Haflinger Horse
Post by: bonniebeth on January 18, 2012, 16:24:45
They probably doctored those pictures. A little deceptive.
Title: Re: 5107 - Knabstrupper Horse and 5109 - Haflinger Horse
Post by: tahra on January 18, 2012, 16:30:08
They probably doctored those pictures. A little deceptive.

That's my point... If they hadn't, we probably would never have found that bit off.. Like this...
Title: Re: 5107 - Knabstrupper Horse and 5109 - Haflinger Horse
Post by: Luis on January 18, 2012, 16:56:17
I never noticed those white spots until now ;D
Title: Re: 5107 - Knabstrupper Horse and 5109 - Haflinger Horse
Post by: playmofire on January 18, 2012, 17:20:18
They probably doctored those pictures. A little deceptive.

Sometimes the packaging and advertising photos are taken using pre-production models and this can mean that they have been made a different way from the way the production models have been made.  If this is the case, then inconsistencies like this can arise without any meaning to deceive.
Title: Re: 5107 - Knabstrupper Horse and 5109 - Haflinger Horse
Post by: bonniebeth on January 18, 2012, 19:59:03
Yes, you are probably right, Gordon. An example is the US exclusive 5904 - Ranger`s vehicle and rhino (http://playmodb.org/cgi-bin/showinv.pl?setnum=5904). The original box front and back pictures showed the jeep having no windshield, and no holes for the windshield to fit in, and yet it did come with one. (And it looks like they eventually re-did the box art to show it.) But they would have no motive to decieve us into thinking there was not a windshield. So it was probably an early production model or something, like you said. Perhaps they toyed with the idea of cutting costs that way and then changed their minds.
Title: Re: 5107 - Knabstrupper Horse and 5109 - Haflinger Horse
Post by: MansionBuilder on January 19, 2012, 03:21:47
Thanks for the pics Tim! I really love the new style.
My cowboys will love trading in some of their old horses for the new ones, especially the Haflinger!   ;)
Title: Re: 5107 - Knabstrupper Horse and 5109 - Haflinger Horse
Post by: Gustavo on January 19, 2012, 13:53:34
I've been taking a look at all of them on the .De site (I've attached the ones that aren't in this review, except for the Araber, which is in recent review), and I'd have them all ... (Different from the "Pegasus" sets, which I will have none, even if I got money to spare ...)

People are complaining about the marks on the ... (how do you call a horse's foot again?) I don't mind about them, to tell the truth. Right, no, let me not lie: I do mind, but I remember that it's playmobil: if you look at the things, it's all full of marks (look at the klicky's head, the mark to fit the hats in, and the klicky's ass ... noone has one like that; or a playmobil (pirate) row boat, it's full of things you won't find in a real one). So, it bothers a bit, I won't lie, but I think it doesn't spare the horse. So, it's too bad that there are such marks, and maybe they can be corrected for the future, but "it's okay" (lets "forgive" them, shall we? ::) ...).


And @Tim, that's a cool background there! :) Cool pictures, very nice review :thanks:
(And :thanks: @tenni too, your review was great too, specially the "evolution of playmo horses" picture ;) I enjoyed that a lot!)

(http://animobil.info/playmo/5107-5109/5107-9-6.jpg)

Title: Re: 5107 - Knabstrupper Horse and 5109 - Haflinger Horse
Post by: tahra on January 19, 2012, 13:57:33
People are complaining about the marks on the ... (how do you call a horse's foot again?) I don't mind about them, to tell the truth. Right, no, let me not lie: I do mind, but I remember that it's playmobil: if you look at the things, it's all full of marks (look at the klicky's head, the mark to fit the hats in, and the klicky's ass ... noone has one like that; or a playmobil (pirate) row boat, it's full of things you won't find in a real one). So, it bothers a bit, I won't lie, but I think it doesn't spare the horse. So, it's too bad that there are such marks, and maybe they can be corrected for the future, but "it's okay" (lets "forgive" them, shall we? ::) ...).

The problem isn't really the mark.. Is the misleading way it wasn't on the pics.. Like I said, if they had shown the horsies with the mark from the start, nobody would notice them!

(hoof is the word you want ;) )
Title: Re: 5107 - Knabstrupper Horse and 5109 - Haflinger Horse
Post by: Gustavo on January 19, 2012, 14:09:46
Hoof, right .. thanks! ;D

I don't know, Tahra ... I think people would have seen it, and would have complained. It shows up.
But the fact is, no matter how others (not from them (design, factory, seller)) try to explain and justify the mistake, you feel deceived and, like you, a percentage of people will feel that way too. It is something they will have to correct for the near future: either taking these marks from the .. hooves ( ;) ), or making new pictures for the boxes. And maybe even officially apologizing with the customers that may have felt damaged, because it was a bad mistake as a seller ... (It does rise doubts concerning ethics (http://www.mazeguy.net/employed/judge.gif) , no matter what opinion ( (http://www.mazeguy.net/employed/teacher.gif) ) people may have, and even if they "forgive" them.)
Title: Re: 5107 - Knabstrupper Horse and 5109 - Haflinger Horse
Post by: Gustavo on January 19, 2012, 14:22:32
I love the klicky [of 51o7] too. I hope I can get the set, I like the horse, I like the klicky, I like the accessories, and I even like the stall too :)

Klickies that also motivate me are the ones of 51o9 and 51-11 :)



The Klicky is also nice. I really like the boots with the side straps, I guess those would be some sort of spats
I think the technical term is gaiters.

(http://animobil.info/playmo/5107-5109/5107-3.jpg)
Title: Re: 5107 - Knabstrupper Horse and 5109 - Haflinger Horse
Post by: playmogal on January 19, 2012, 14:30:14
Love the Klickies and the horses! Beautiful sets!

Tim, Thanks for another helpful review. These should sell quite well because so many young girls adore horses. Cheers!
Title: Re: 5107 - Knabstrupper Horse and 5109 - Haflinger Horse
Post by: Bill Blackhurst on January 19, 2012, 21:14:35
Great review of fantastic new sets, thank you for sharing these with us, Tim! These types of sets keeping evolving into better & better designs!