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Title: DS 2019-2020
Post by: bml87 on May 02, 2019, 12:44:14
Last year the new DS articles were announced on 2 May, according to Amclicks (http://amclicks.org/foro/novedades-playmobil/nuevo-catalogo-ds-alemania-20182019), so we might expect some Playmobil news in the next coming hours (or days)...

Any guesses from you guys? I'm wishing for some Western updates...
Title: Re: DS 2019-2020
Post by: Giorginetto on May 02, 2019, 12:56:21
Where are the Nuremberg  guards !!!????  :hmm:
Title: Re: DS 2019-2020
Post by: Oliver on May 02, 2019, 15:23:33
I was so excited when I saw this thread title! But no news yet I guess?
Title: Re: DS 2019-2020
Post by: PlaymoFrankJon on May 02, 2019, 21:26:24
You tricked me with the title lol! I'll just keep on refreshing until something pops up right ?  ;D
Title: Re: DS 2019-2020
Post by: Hadoque on May 02, 2019, 23:57:05
I too was excited when seeing the thread-title and thought the new DS sets were revealed!
You should be lynched  :P
Title: Re: DS 2019-2020
Post by: jodawill on May 03, 2019, 14:48:37
Why do I not see 6582 listed on the Playmobil website? Has it not been released in the US yet?
Title: Re: DS 2019-2020
Post by: Hadoque on May 10, 2019, 22:21:09
Still no news at all about the DS catalogue items for 2019?  ???
Title: Re: DS 2019-2020
Post by: bml87 on May 16, 2019, 09:48:30
And like every year, the news was brought to us by our friends of Amclicks! Thanks to their member Playdalai!

http://amclicks.org/foro/novedades-playmobil/nuevo-catalogo-ds-alemania-20192020/

Spoiler: the amount is underwhelming unfortunately...
Title: Re: DS 2019-2020
Post by: PlaymoFrankJon on May 16, 2019, 10:11:34
Some very nice sets in there, but i hope there is more  ;D
Title: Re: DS 2019-2020
Post by: tahra on May 16, 2019, 13:12:01
Thanks for the heads up! :)

(9851 is MIA.. )
Title: Re: DS 2019-2020
Post by: sbblabotw on May 16, 2019, 14:26:42
Here they are in the DB. I'll correct any names, release dates etc. when the actual setpages, not just the pictures, become available in the official site. 9851 I added as well, no picture yet.

New Sets in DS 2019 (http://playmodb.org/cgi-bin/your_set_list.pl?setlist=9831,9832,9833,9834,9835,9836,9837,9838,9839,9840,9841,9842,9843,9844,9845,9846,9847,9848,9849,9850,9851,9852,9853,9854,9855,9856;title=New%20Sets%20in%20DS%202019)
Title: Re: DS 2019-2020
Post by: tahra on May 16, 2019, 15:00:13
Here they are in the DB.

Thank you :)
Title: Re: DS 2019-2020
Post by: jodawill on May 16, 2019, 15:29:45
I love the "Ergänzungsset Mittelalter" set. But I really hope they make some klickies to go with it!

Does anyone know what "Noveldor" means? Those knights look pretty cool, much better than the heavily fantasized stuff they've been doing recently.
Title: Re: DS 2019-2020
Post by: Oliver on May 16, 2019, 15:37:08
Thanks for posting!

I think the fancy dress shop is cute, and I like the stands with the prices on for the clothes.

I like the free lady. But no new re-releases I guess.
Title: Re: DS 2019-2020
Post by: jodawill on May 16, 2019, 15:50:40
Has anyone else noticed that the merlons on the castle extensions don't match any of the current castles? They must have at least two more being released soon. Have those been announced?
Title: Re: DS 2019-2020
Post by: bml87 on May 16, 2019, 16:29:40
Has anyone else noticed that the merlons on the castle extensions don't match any of the current castles? They must have at least two more being released soon. Have those been announced?

The new Knights sets have been revealed on Amclicks as well, here's the link (http://amclicks.org/foro/novedades-playmobil/novedades-alemania-agosto-septiembre-2019/).
But, it's indeed peculiar that the add on sets will be released before the new main theme in August.

On Klickywelt the cover of the new DS catalogue has been revealed as well! Note that the validity period is until 31 January 2019  :(o):!!! I guess they want to start to release the DS sets on the same date all over the world. Now the German market got them 6 months before the other markets. (Source on Klickywelt (https://klickywelt.de/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=71515&sid=fd16f27194a8cdfa5bbf5442f9bef24a)).

Other pictures of other DS sets (= rereleases) are also available in that same topic of Klickywelt (https://klickywelt.de/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=71515&sid=fd16f27194a8cdfa5bbf5442f9bef24a). Fort Brave and the Western school are back.
Title: Re: DS 2019-2020
Post by: bml87 on May 16, 2019, 16:36:55
Here they are in the DB. I'll correct any names, release dates etc. when the actual setpages, not just the pictures, become available in the official site. 9851 I added as well, no picture yet.

New Sets in DS 2019 (http://playmodb.org/cgi-bin/your_set_list.pl?setlist=9831,9832,9833,9834,9835,9836,9837,9838,9839,9840,9841,9842,9843,9844,9845,9846,9847,9848,9849,9850,9851,9852,9853,9854,9855,9856;title=New%20Sets%20in%20DS%202019)

Thanks! It really shows how less new DS sets are released this year...
Title: Re: DS 2019-2020
Post by: sbblabotw on May 16, 2019, 16:41:44
But, it's indeed peculiar that the add on sets will be released before the new main theme in August.

Squinting at pages 12 and 16 of the klickywelt images, I can see that there's a date under the NEU flag on the castle-addons and the new Knights figures. I'm assuming it's August 2019, same as the castles, but once we get the official PDF we'll be able to see for sure.
Title: Re: DS 2019-2020
Post by: bml87 on May 16, 2019, 16:45:17
Squinting at pages 12 and 16 of the klickywelt images, I can see that there's a date under the NEU flag on the castle-addons and the new Knights figures. I'm assuming it's August 2019, same as the castles, but once we get the official PDF we'll be able to see for sure.

You are right, it says "Neu ab Aug 2019" (New from August 2019)! That explains a lot :)
Title: Re: DS 2019-2020
Post by: bml87 on May 16, 2019, 17:05:42
Thanks! It really shows how less new DS sets are released this year...

You can compare it here:

DS 2018 (http://playmodb.org/cgi-bin/your_set_list.pl?setlist=9800,9801,9802,9803,9804,9805,9806,9807,9808,9809,9810,9811,9812,9813,9814,9815,9816,9817,9818,9819,9820,9821,9822,9823,9824,9825,9826,9827,9828,9829,9830,6573,6574,6575,6576,6577,6578,6581,6582,6583,6584,6585,6586,6587,6588,6589,6590,6591,6592,6593,6594,6595,6596,6597,6598,6599,;title=New%20Sets%20in%20DS%202018): 56 new sets
DS 2019 (http://playmodb.org/cgi-bin/your_set_list.pl?setlist=9831,9832,9833,9834,9835,9836,9837,9838,9839,9840,9841,9842,9843,9844,9845,9846,9847,9848,9849,9850,9851,9852,9853,9854,9855,9856;title=New%20Sets%20in%20DS%202019): 26 new sets
Title: Re: DS 2019-2020
Post by: Oliver on May 16, 2019, 17:27:04
The new Knights sets have been revealed on Amclicks as well, here's the link (http://amclicks.org/foro/novedades-playmobil/novedades-alemania-agosto-septiembre-2019/).
But, it's indeed peculiar that the add on sets will be released before the new main theme in August.

On Klickywelt the cover of the new DS catalogue has been revealed as well! Note that the validity period is until 31 January 2019  :(o):!!! I guess they want to start to release the DS sets on the same date all over the world. Now the German market got them 6 months before the other markets. (Source on Klickywelt (https://klickywelt.de/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=71515&sid=fd16f27194a8cdfa5bbf5442f9bef24a)).

Other pictures of other DS sets (= rereleases) are also available in that same topic of Klickywelt (https://klickywelt.de/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=71515&sid=fd16f27194a8cdfa5bbf5442f9bef24a). Fort Brave and the Western school are back.


Thanks!

It also lists the Tailors Shop as 'new' though it feels like it only just came out of the DS selection (I wish they'd  re-release the one with the bakery).

Can't believe they still have enough of the Modern Villa to have it back in. Seems like they've been trying to get rid of them for ages.
Title: Re: DS 2019-2020
Post by: jodawill on May 16, 2019, 18:04:19
Why do they always rerelease these sets without the klickys? I would love to buy Fort Brave, but they don't sell any soldier klickys to go with it. :'(
Title: Re: DS 2019-2020
Post by: Tiermann on May 16, 2019, 18:49:46
Looks like just the new sets, not showing what may be rereleased from before.  The 9842 set with the civilian work stuff is nice for  use in castles or marketplace set ups. The costume shop is a nice idea but nothing there I need. Animals are a yawn, nothing new. Shields are the new knights theme so that's nice. Not much I will need there really.

Edit initially missed the Klickywelt pages.  Yeah nothing much interesting in re releases except maybe the fishing boat.  Still the red house. They need to switch up the color to one of the others.
Title: Re: DS 2019-2020
Post by: sbblabotw on May 16, 2019, 19:18:09
Hey, some of them have PDF instructions already! Including the knights, so now we have part numbers for the bronze armour, and the fancy shields...

2019 DS sets with PDF instructions (https://playmodb.org/cgi-bin/your_set_list.pl?setlist=9831,9832,9836,9838,9842,9843,9844,9845,9846,9847,9850,9851,9852,9853;title=2019%20DS%20sets%20with%20PDF%20instructions) (Fixed, thanks Boris)

I don't think I'll bother with cracking at inventories just yet, since there are a LOT of reused parts here, and the spare-parts service will do most of it for me in June. I'll put in klickies though (since they don't), and see if I can get decent pictures for the new shields etc.

Catalogue comparison: new feature, ordered by release-date.
PlaymoDB Sets listed in "Catalogue DS Germany 2018-2019", sorted by release date (https://playmodb.org/cgi-bin/catalogue_contents.pl?partnum=86539;sortby=released)
PlaymoDB Sets listed in "Catalogue DS Germany 2019-2021", sorted by release date (https://playmodb.org/cgi-bin/catalogue_contents.pl?partnum=86957;sortby=released)

The new sets are at the bottom, of course.

Title: Re: DS 2019-2020
Post by: bml87 on May 16, 2019, 19:30:53
Hey, some of them have PDF instructions already! Including the knights, so now we have part numbers for the bronze armour, and the fancy shields...

2019 DS sets with PDF instructions (http://bigreddell/cgi-bin/your_set_list.pl?setlist=9831,9832,9836,9838,9842,9843,9844,9845,9846,9847,9850,9851,9852,9853;title=2019%20DS%20sets%20with%20PDF%20instructions)


The link should be: https://playmodb.org/cgi-bin/your_set_list.pl?setlist=9831,9832,9836,9838,9842,9843,9844,9845,9846,9847,9850,9851,9852,9853;title=2019%20DS%20sets%20with%20PDF%20instructions  ;)

On the other hand, I am surprised they have manuals for the klicky-groups!
Title: Re: DS 2019-2020
Post by: tahra on May 16, 2019, 19:50:44
Hey, some of them have PDF instructions already! Including the knights, so now we have part numbers for the bronze armour, and the fancy shields...

:o

Thank you again!
Title: Re: DS 2019-2020
Post by: playmofire on May 16, 2019, 20:11:07
Why do they always rerelease these sets without the klickys? I would love to buy Fort Brave, but they don't sell any soldier klickys to go with it. :'(

I think it may be so that people cannot buy the re-release and then try and sell it as an original item.
Title: Re: DS 2019-2020
Post by: austinf4564 on May 16, 2019, 23:56:58
Thank you for the updates! I've been waiting to see what is coming. I'm excited to see that extension floor (9848) for the new "Large Hospital" 70190. I'm dreaming of that hospital, however it doesn't seem like it's going to be released in the USA  :'(

I love that pottery wheel in the 9842 set!
Title: Re: DS 2019-2020
Post by: Hadoque on May 17, 2019, 00:03:22
What a ... desillusion. There is so little, and nothing "wowing" at all.

There is mostly 1 (yes, 1) thing I like, it comes in set 9836 "3 Waterknights":
the knight/soldier in the middle has a nice print on his blue torso, that torso could be used for customising all kinds of historical civilian klickies.

Strange indeed the instructions with partnumbers for these DS knights are available! But the better for us  :)
Title: Re: DS 2019-2020
Post by: Macruran on May 17, 2019, 02:27:19
Aesthetically these sets look more classic than recent ones have - with the exception of the flame knights of course. The blue knights look fairly properly medieval, though their heraldic symbol could be better. Hopefully this signals a pullback from recent extravagances.

Is the boat remote control modified or just renumbered?
Title: Re: DS 2019-2020
Post by: Klickteryx on May 17, 2019, 04:20:55
I love the "Ergänzungsset Mittelalter" set. But I really hope they make some klickies to go with it!

Those knights look pretty cool, much better than the heavily fantasized stuff they've been doing recently.

The village set looks promising and great to see those baking accessories that came with the lebkuchen baker here though I'd rather have something other than the well. There should be a set with villagers in it (not a princess and knight family!) as otherwise there is no one to give all these nice things to.

The knights though...nice bronze armour but the flames are hideous and I really don't like the two helmet designs on the left.  The blue guys are quite generic and nothing much of interest but they're not offensive and they're not lime green so there's that going for them.
Title: Re: DS 2019-2020
Post by: GrahamB on May 17, 2019, 07:58:20
Dressing up set
2 children, hats, cloaks, capes, etc. Ghost costume, tiger head mask, new animal masks, accessories from micro sets; swords, shields, helmet, naval officer's hat, child-sized breastplates, child-sized hoop dress, clip on fairy wings....
Clip on beards (my avatar reminded me)

I hope I get royalties for 9847 (https://playmodb.org/setpics/9/9847.jpg)!
Title: Re: DS 2019-2020
Post by: sbblabotw on May 17, 2019, 12:03:46
Is the boat remote control modified or just renumbered?

The instructions actually have the same partnumber - 30 82 2253 - Instructions for 5536/9853 (https://playmodb.org/cgi-bin/showpart.pl?partnum=30-82-2253), but now have both set numbers printed on the first page. Neither version actually shows part numbers for the bits of the motor. I haven't read every bit of the text in all the languages (sorry :)  ) but I'd say that "just renumbered' is a good assumption.
Title: Re: DS 2019-2020
Post by: Oliver on May 17, 2019, 16:08:56
I just noticed that The Merrymens Feast 6464 is back on the UK site, though it's not actually for sale yet.
Title: Re: DS 2019-2020
Post by: Giorginetto on May 18, 2019, 11:03:56
Love 9842 set. Medieval classic playmobil stuff. I still remember when i got my first playmo well back in the 70s ( still have it and used in my diorama) . I will be getting some of these set surely , so great to see steck  :love:
Title: Re: DS 2019-2020
Post by: tahra on May 18, 2019, 14:37:18
I will be getting some of these set surely , so great to see steck  :love:

What steck?!
Title: Re: DS 2019-2020
Post by: StJohn on May 18, 2019, 15:12:26
There is no steck, just the illusion of steck in blurry images.
Title: Re: DS 2019-2020
Post by: jodawill on May 18, 2019, 17:00:20
What steck?!

Isn’t Fort Brave steck? That’s being rereleased.
Title: Re: DS 2019-2020
Post by: tahra on May 18, 2019, 17:10:51
There is no steck, just the illusion of steck in blurry images.

Bah. I didn't see any steck, even blurred (the classic houses don't really count, have been available like.. always)

Isn’t Fort Brave steck? That’s being rereleased.

Nope. System X... I think.


Title: Re: DS 2019-2020
Post by: Oliver on May 18, 2019, 17:39:11
Even when everything was Steck, the western forts had their own assembly system (I think, I only ever had one and I only got that as part of a bundle).
Title: Re: DS 2019-2020
Post by: tahra on May 18, 2019, 17:44:02
Even when everything was Steck, the western forts had their own assembly system (I think, I only ever had one and I only got that as part of a bundle).

Yep... A wonderful system, actually (though I find it hard to assemble - managed to hurt myself making the piece in the xmasy dio  :-[ )

If I see them cheap... ;)  .. but not the fort house though.. have (probably more than) enough of those.
Title: Re: DS 2019-2020
Post by: jodawill on May 18, 2019, 18:18:08
I actually really like System X, except I’ve found they don’t connect in all of the ways I would expect. That’s what I find frustrating about them. For example, the horizontal and vertical pins are spread apart differently, so I can’t connect things in ways they weren’t designed to be. But it feels really satisfying to snap them together.
Title: Re: DS 2019-2020
Post by: bml87 on May 18, 2019, 18:24:09
Let's talk about that validity date: until 31 January 2021. What do you think is going on? I thought about 4 options:

A. Playmobil wants the same release date for the new DS items all over the world, now Germany has the release 6 months prior to the rest of the countries where the DS is part of the assortment.

B. This is actually the last DS ever, so it ends simultaneously with the validity date of the rest of the world.

C. The future DS products will be part of the normal catalogue. No separate catalogue anymore.

D. The new validity period is now one year and a half, instead of one year.
Title: Re: DS 2019-2020
Post by: tahra on May 18, 2019, 19:04:10
I actually really like System X, except I’ve found they don’t connect in all of the ways I would expect. That’s what I find frustrating about them. For example, the horizontal and vertical pins are spread apart differently, so I can’t connect things in ways they weren’t designed to be. But it feels really satisfying to snap them together.

Well... I find system X hard to work with - not too much practice or knowlegde, I think... And I have the same problem!  When I am doing something, somehow I always needed connections where there aren't any  :-\

Maybe I am doing it wrong?


Let's talk about that validity date: until 31 January 2021.

You are right, that IS the biggest news!


A. Playmobil wants the same release date for the new DS items all over the world, now Germany has the release 6 months prior to the rest of the countries where the DS is part of the assortment.

But... DS here is January 1.  Or 2 or 4, but....

B. This is actually the last DS ever, so it ends simultaneously with the validity date of the rest of the world.

:o  That had not even crossed my mind. Now I am scared.  Now that you mention it, it wouldn't be a COMPLETE surprise, now would it?  :'(

C. The future DS products will be part of the normal catalogue. No separate catalogue anymore.

But if no more ds....

D. The new validity period is now one year and a half, instead of one year.

I could be ok with that. My wallet says "10 years is better. Or 100"..
Title: Re: DS 2019-2020
Post by: Tiermann on May 18, 2019, 20:16:41
I am inclined to think they are trying to line up with world wide release.
They have more and more themes being released everywhere at once (licensed for instance). It used to be that they did delayed releases for most of the world because they didn't have the production capacity to do everywhere at once for new releases. Now that they have gone to only a two year cycle for most things, and they are continuing to expand production capacity (doubling the size of Malta klicky factory for instance), I think they are slowly heading towards world wide releases on more and more lines. It's more cost effective for them to produce all of an item for the whole world at once than to have to do multiple runs of it. Considering that they currently release DS to the rest of the world after only 6 months, they are probably already making it all in a single run anyway. So releasing everywhere at the same time would make more sense.
Title: Re: DS 2019-2020
Post by: playmofire on May 19, 2019, 15:32:11
I know that at one time Playmobil would do a run of 10,000 of new sets and not do a re-run until the stock was gone.    This meant holding large stocks of finished products as well as raw materials.  Nowadays, however, they work, like most manufacturers on the "just in time" system which reduces the need to hold large stocks of either raw materials or finished products..
Title: Re: DS 2019-2020
Post by: jodawill on May 19, 2019, 16:29:20
I know that at one time Playmobil would do a run of 10,000 of new sets and not do a re-run until the stock was gone.    This meant holding large stocks of finished products as well as raw materials.  Nowadays, however, they work, like most manufacturers on the "just in time" system which reduces the need to hold large stocks of either raw materials or finished products..

It seems like “just in time” is code for “nearly always out of stock.”
Title: Re: DS 2019-2020
Post by: bml87 on May 19, 2019, 19:00:13
Considering that they currently release DS to the rest of the world after only 6 months, they are probably already making it all in a single run anyway. So releasing everywhere at the same time would make more sense.

A theory that makes a lot of sense! Also, if they want to keep competing with Lego, a worldwide release for all the themes and expansion sets is unavoidable!
Title: Re: DS 2019-2020
Post by: PlaymoFrankJon on May 24, 2019, 13:00:55
Looks like the DS parts have dropped (Not all, the new castle extensions & knights arent on the website yet). German website has them, but more importantly Belgium, Spain, Netherlands all have them too! So my guess is that the 6 month gap is gone ? Great..
Title: Re: DS 2019-2020
Post by: bml87 on May 24, 2019, 15:10:01
Looks like the DS parts have dropped (Not all, the new castle extensions & knights arent on the website yet). German website has them, but more importantly Belgium, Spain, Netherlands all have them too! So my guess is that the 6 month gap is gone ? Great..

It's amazing!!! Also, the medieval feast is back online!!
Title: Re: DS 2019-2020
Post by: tahra on May 29, 2019, 13:46:24
pdf now available:
http://playmobil.a.bigcontent.io/v1/static/DS_DE_2019_2021
Title: Re: DS 2019-2020
Post by: jodawill on May 29, 2019, 14:40:24
Thanks for the link! It looks like the western bank and sheriff's office will be discontinued soon then. I might pick up the sheriff's office sometime since I have the new sheriff klicky. :) I really wish they'd release some new cavalry klickies to go with that fort.
Title: Re: DS 2019-2020
Post by: Oliver on May 30, 2019, 02:49:21
Maybe I'm just confused about what's 'new' but it seems like the UK site has most of the new DS stuff. Which makes sense, as all DS is served from Germany anyway.
Title: Re: DS 2019-2020
Post by: Bolingbroke on May 31, 2019, 13:22:33
This time I am definitely gettingtwo or three of the Merry Men’s Feast. Scalpers were selling them for obscene prices on ebay recently.

The rest is meh. I don’t know if I have the green house already. At this point most of my PM collection is in storage, has been since my now 4 yr old was born, so no idea what it is that I have or not.
Title: Re: DS 2019-2020
Post by: jodawill on May 31, 2019, 14:01:35
These new "castles" look really bad to me. I'm curious to see whether they sell well. They don't look like anything in particular, and they're pretty bland when you look at them without the klickies. I hope they aren't giving up on traditional knights.
Title: Re: DS 2019-2020
Post by: playmofire on May 31, 2019, 14:47:30
Maybe I'm just confused about what's 'new' but it seems like the UK site has most of the new DS stuff. Which makes sense, as all DS is served from Germany anyway.

Most of, I think, but not all.
Title: Re: DS 2019-2020
Post by: jodawill on June 19, 2019, 17:26:36
In slightly related news (in light of the fort being reissued), the Civil War klickies are back in stock on the US site. I ordered a couple sets of each this morning. :easterhop: