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General => Report & Review => Topic started by: StJohn on March 21, 2024, 16:32:33

Title: Playmobil 71604 50th Anniversary Knight
Post by: StJohn on March 21, 2024, 16:32:33
On the occasion of its first half century, Playmobil issued a jubilee knight:

(https://media.playmobil.com/i/playmobil/71604_product_detail)

I wasn't blown away at first, but, having inspected him now myself, am quite content with the product and the idea.

With the exception of the hair, the knight is identical with the 30th anniversary knight 4430 (https://playmodb.org/cgi-bin/showinv.pl?setnum=4430) of 20 years ago, here on the left:

(https://i.imgur.com/dSnjj0a.jpg)

The big difference is the material. The 30th anniversary knight was famously made using real gold, and that shows. The armor shines and sparkles, but the sheen is also very delicate and few knights remain fresh now, twenty years on. The one I'm showing here still looks good, but many others have turned dull. The jubilee knight's armor is made of a more recent type of metallic gold material, seen for example in the armor parts of 5477 - Goldener Ritter Christopher (https://playmodb.org/cgi-bin/showinv.pl?setnum=5477) and 5355 - Eagle Tournament Knight (https://playmodb.org/cgi-bin/showinv.pl?setnum=5355), which appears to be more durable.

The sword of the 30th anniversary knight is chrome, the sword of the jubilee knight is made of the same metallic silver material that is seen, for example, in the armor of 5356 - Lion Tournament Knight (https://playmodb.org/cgi-bin/showinv.pl?setnum=5356).

Turning to the horse, which is the original Version 1, once again back in production. The caparison mirrors another ancient part, namely the horse coat of the original Golden Knight (a.k.a. Swan Knight) of sets 3654 (https://playmodb.org/cgi-bin/showinv.pl?setnum=3654) and 3024 (https://playmodb.org/cgi-bin/showinv.pl?setnum=3024) of 1993, resp. 1999, shown here on the right:

(https://i.imgur.com/W9VVDiE.jpg)

As you can see, printing quality in the 1990s was better than nowadays.

How does this all work together as a set? Playmobil is celebrating a golden jubilee, so obviously something made of gold is called for. The Golden Knight is a famous Playmobil figure, here assembled with parts from different episodes of Playmobil history: the horse from the nineties, the knight from the noughties, and the new gold material from the second decade of this century. I like the idea.

Happy birthday, Playmobil! <:D
Title: Re: Playmobil 71604 50th Anniversary Knight
Post by: Macruran on March 22, 2024, 02:21:59
 <:D :woohoo:
Title: Re: Playmobil 71604 50th Anniversary Knight
Post by: Tiermann on March 22, 2024, 02:33:10
Thanks for the review on this one, I look forward to getting one. It's the first jousting knight they have done in years.
Title: Re: Playmobil 71604 50th Anniversary Knight
Post by: Klickteryx on March 22, 2024, 06:32:10
I think the caparison would be improved by adding black outlines and black lines between the two colours, basically like the 90s horse cover. The gold plated knight was a great idea but the gold was too thin and I presume the backing material oxidised unless the gold itself was an alloy. These knights were going dull within months depending on the environment they were in.
Title: Re: Playmobil 71604 50th Anniversary Knight
Post by: tahra on March 22, 2024, 07:36:47
He's really nice (even if not fave molds for armor or helmet)

Thank you for the detailed pics.

(...)here assembled with parts from different episodes of Playmobil history: the horse from the nineties, the knight from the noughties, and the new gold material from the second decade of this century. I like the idea.

Unfortunately, I SERIOUSLY doubt that crossed anyone's mind there...

Still...

 <:D
Title: Re: Playmobil 71604 50th Anniversary Knight
Post by: StJohn on March 22, 2024, 08:12:02
Unfortunately, I SERIOUSLY doubt that crossed anyone's mind there...

It's a celebration of past glory, so I do believe that somebody consciously put it together like this.

It's the first jousting knight they have done in years.

I suspect it's also going to be their last, ever :(
Title: Re: Playmobil 71604 50th Anniversary Knight
Post by: GrahamB on March 22, 2024, 08:26:21
Great review, StJohn. I didn't know about the real gold on the original Knight.

The guy in our local toyshop (a rare beast (the shop, not the guy) because it actually stocks PM!) told us this Knight is the same as those from the very start of Playmobil. I didn't have the heart to tell him it copies something from just 20 years ago (25 years for the horse and its curtains) ! I do wish geobra would release some of those pastel-coloured figures from 1974!
Title: Re: Playmobil 71604 50th Anniversary Knight
Post by: Macruran on March 22, 2024, 12:43:57
Yeah you'd think they'd do a pack of the original Indian, knight and construction worker, but in gold or something  :indian: :knight: :builder:
Title: Re: Playmobil 71604 50th Anniversary Knight
Post by: tahra on March 23, 2024, 13:54:32
Yeah you'd think they'd do a pack of the original Indian, knight and construction worker, but in gold or something  :indian: :knight: :builder:

:love:
Title: Re: Playmobil 71604 50th Anniversary Knight
Post by: Klickteryx on March 31, 2024, 07:45:59
Yeah you'd think they'd do a pack of the original Indian, knight and construction worker, but in gold or something  :indian: :knight: :builder:
They did do a recent set with an indian, a construction worker and an armed guy with helmet.
Title: Re: Playmobil 71604 50th Anniversary Knight
Post by: Macruran on March 31, 2024, 08:01:39
What's the set number?
Title: Re: Playmobil 71604 50th Anniversary Knight
Post by: Oliver on March 31, 2024, 10:43:01
What's the set number?

I believe they're referring to The Village People set  :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: Playmobil 71604 50th Anniversary Knight
Post by: Macruran on March 31, 2024, 13:32:11
 :lol:
Title: Re: Playmobil 71604 50th Anniversary Knight
Post by: Tiermann on March 31, 2024, 15:34:46
The construction worker in the Village People set has a gold helmet. It really wouldnt be a stretch for them to do a gold set of the original klickies. There was that gold street performer recently too.
Title: Re: Playmobil 71604 50th Anniversary Knight
Post by: Klickteryx on April 01, 2024, 00:18:55
Their chrome is good and an original set in chrome could then be repurposed as museum knights or just do a complete early era chrome knight.

That gold street performer is a great set, they could probably do with a [something's] Got Talent type set with a panel of judges and Xs that light up and make a noise. Of course they could also do a bell for the tower but no one would buy that obviously so grumble grumble grumble...
Title: Re: Playmobil 71604 50th Anniversary Knight
Post by: GrahamB on April 01, 2024, 08:48:39
...bell for the tower...

I'm sure the tower bell 30801440 in 3445 is the same as the bell in the red, blue and orange Circuses, 3553, (https://playmodb.org/setpics/3/3553.jpg) 3510 (https://playmodb.org/setpics/3/3553.jpg) and 3194x (https://www.playmofriends.com/forum/index.php?topic=18010.msg326050#msg326050) respectively, which may be easier to find. But I expect you knew that!
Title: Re: Playmobil 71604 50th Anniversary Knight
Post by: Klickteryx on April 02, 2024, 02:15:56
I'm sure the tower bell 30801440 in 3445 is the same as the bell in the red, blue and orange Circuses, 3553, (https://playmodb.org/setpics/3/3553.jpg) 3510 (https://playmodb.org/setpics/3/3553.jpg) and 3194x (https://www.playmofriends.com/forum/index.php?topic=18010.msg326050#msg326050) respectively, which may be easier to find. But I expect you knew that!
I did thanks but if I was going for something similar then I'd just make something out of light wood. I almost bought a blue circus several years ago to get that bit and the two open steck walls it comes with but didn't.
No I mean if they're going to pump for nostalgia value and more high end collectables like vehicles with chromed parts then they could easily do that piece again given they've already re-released the debtor's tower (sans bell) twice now.
Title: Re: Playmobil 71604 50th Anniversary Knight
Post by: Oliver on April 02, 2024, 12:53:59
I did thanks but if I was going for something similar then I'd just make something out of light wood. I almost bought a blue circus several years ago to get that bit and the two open steck walls it comes with but didn't.
No I mean if they're going to pump for nostalgia value and more high end collectables like vehicles with chromed parts then they could easily do that piece again given they've already re-released the debtor's tower (sans bell) twice now.

Are those open steck walls different sizes to the standard ones?

On the one hand, I would expect a bell like that to be incredibly cheap to manufacture, but on the other hand I think the difference it would make to sales to be minimal.

Title: Re: Playmobil 71604 50th Anniversary Knight
Post by: GrahamB on April 03, 2024, 17:41:49
Are those open steck walls different sizes to the standard ones?

No, just blue. Same as this part (https://playmodb.org/cgi-bin/showpart.pl?partnum=30-02-9120).
Title: Re: Playmobil 71604 50th Anniversary Knight
Post by: Klickteryx on April 03, 2024, 23:56:22
Are those open steck walls different sizes to the standard ones?

On the one hand, I would expect a bell like that to be incredibly cheap to manufacture, but on the other hand I think the difference it would make to sales to be minimal.
Possibly but I think a nuremberg knights set would sell more than the classic police car they're currently offering.
Title: Re: Playmobil 71604 50th Anniversary Knight
Post by: Oliver on April 04, 2024, 12:30:07
Possibly but I think a nuremberg knights set would sell more than the classic police car they're currently offering.

I think the police car is an extremely strange choice to be honest - maybe the original was very popular and they think people might want it? But it seems very odd.
Title: Re: Playmobil 71604 50th Anniversary Knight
Post by: Klickteryx on April 04, 2024, 19:37:25
I think the police car is an extremely strange choice to be honest - maybe the original was very popular and they think people might want it? But it seems very odd.
It just shows they don't understand the collector market. Even as a kid I'd rather have had one of the police sets with lots of klickys eg:

(https://playmodb.org/setpics/3/3488.jpg)
Title: Re: Playmobil 71604 50th Anniversary Knight
Post by: Macruran on April 05, 2024, 03:20:49
Those guys look like they're having a party - a police party!  P) :**:
Title: Re: Playmobil 71604 50th Anniversary Knight
Post by: Pynedor on April 13, 2024, 13:43:29
Thank you for the review! I look forward to getting some of these. :D

The new metallic colours are certainly more durable than the older plated items (and even the later items that had metallic paints applied on top of silver or gold parts). However, the shine is definitely not the same. ;)

It's the first jousting knight they have done in years.

I suspect it's also going to be their last, ever :(

I certainly hope that is not the case!