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General => Direct Service/Parts Queries => Topic started by: cheng on July 13, 2016, 11:38:01
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lady's spitzhaube appears in 3652, 4570, 7757 & 6324 in different colour combinations but are my two ETNs correctly pointed in the following picture?
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No guarantees here, but using my own list of Medieval/Fantasy parts along with PlaymoDB, it would seem to me that 30 26 2230 is actually the lower part as well. It could just be another part number for the same part, just in a slightly different white or changed after time.
Again, I'm not sure though - sorry! :-\ I've never attempted to order any of these parts.
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.....that 30 26 2230 is actually the lower part as well....
Again, I'm not sure though - sorry! :-\ I've never attempted to order any of these parts.
quite unlikely though, Pynedor....what do you think of the their translations in playmobil.de? :lol: using the translator , Kegel is Veil while Tuch is Cloth.... I thought 'veil' is something women cover heir faces with...so the German description also confuses me 8}
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Veil can also be the long cloth that hangs off the top of the hat. With this hat style that piece would normally be thin light fabric like a veil and not solid the way it is in plastic. Never ordered any of these parts so no definite knowledge, sorry.
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ok, thanks too Tim!
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If my German is up to scratch, I think you got it right with the descriptions and the arrows. Maybe Daniela can confirm?
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If my German is up to scratch, I think you got it right with the descriptions and the arrows. Maybe Daniela can confirm?
thanks Birdie, I didn't want to rely just on the translator :P
it'll be good to sort these out once and for all since there are so many ETNs for the different colors and older versions
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You got it right, my friend. ;)
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thanks Erik! :)
I wish I can similarly work out the combinations of the older versions but I dont have the resources Heather has....I find it difficult to be sure of the white/yellowish white/yellow versions just by judging from the colors. :P
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quite unlikely though, Pynedor....what do you think of the their translations in playmobil.de? :lol: using the translator , Kegel is Veil while Tuch is Cloth.... I thought 'veil' is something women cover heir faces with...so the German description also confuses me 8}
Hmm, I'm not sure how they'd go about naming these separate parts since they're always used together. It seems that Erik knows though. ;) Good luck.
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Hmm, I'm not sure how they'd go about naming these separate parts since they're always used together. It seems that Erik knows though. ;) Good luck.
Erik knows, lol.I ordered them seperately on several occasions. ;)
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Erik knows, lol.I ordered them seperately on several occasions. ;)
Great! :)
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Oh dear, I just looked at all these parts together
PlaymoDB Parts Containing "headdress, ladies" (http://playmodb.org/cgi-bin/textsearch.pl?sortby=description&page=1&text=headdress%5C%2C+ladies&lang=all&pics=on)
and I have my names and pictures mixed up. Actually it's Playmobil that has inconsistencies - let me see now.
Positively identified via instructions, are the following:
30 20 6762 (http://playmodb.org/cgi-bin/showpart.pl?partnum=30-20-6762) is the green lower part of 4338 (http://playmodb.org/cgi-bin/showinv.pl?setnum=4338). Its German name is "Schleier-Spitzhaube-Dame".
30 07 7550 (http://playmodb.org/cgi-bin/showpart.pl?partnum=30-07-7550) is the light yellow lower part of 3652 (http://playmodb.org/cgi-bin/showinv.pl?setnum=3652). Its German name is "Tuch-Spitzhaube-Dame".
30 07 8150 (http://playmodb.org/cgi-bin/showpart.pl?partnum=30-07-8150) is the white pointy part appearing in both 3652 and 4338 (http://playmodb.org/cgi-bin/your_set_list.pl?setlist=3652,4338). Its German name is "Kegel-Spitzhaube-Dame".
30 07 8160 (http://playmodb.org/cgi-bin/showpart.pl?partnum=30-07-8160) is the yellow hanging part appearing in 3652 (http://playmodb.org/cgi-bin/showinv.pl?setnum=3652). Its German name is "Schleier-Spitzhaube-Dame".
30 20 6772 (http://playmodb.org/cgi-bin/showpart.pl?partnum=30-20-6772) is the green hanging part appearing in 4338 (http://playmodb.org/cgi-bin/showinv.pl?setnum=4338). Its German name is "Tuch-Spitzhaube-Dame".
When 6324 - Medieval Family (http://playmodb.org/cgi-bin/showinv.pl?setnum=6324) had an official spare parts list, these parts were included:
30 07 7540 (http://playmodb.org/cgi-bin/showpart.pl?partnum=30-07-7540) ("Tuch-Spitzhaube-Dame") (That's an old part, judging from its number.)
30 25 8293 (http://playmodb.org/cgi-bin/showpart.pl?partnum=30-25-8293) ("Kegel-Spitzhaube-Dame")
30 26 2230 (http://playmodb.org/cgi-bin/showpart.pl?partnum=30-26-2230) ("Schleier-Spitzhaube-Dame")
So, Erik, can you confirm that "Tuch" is the lower part, "Kegel" is the pointy part, and "Scheier" is the hanging veil? That would mean that the naming (or numbering, I suppose) of the 4338 parts is wrong. If so, I'll rename the ones that don't appear in 4338, to match their German names, and re-colour and re-photo them to match the parts of whatever set they're in. In a really high percentage of cases, the German name is the same among parts of the same mold, but Playmobil does mess up occasionally. The instructions and official spare-parts lists are all I have to go on unless people who have ordered them, can confirm otherwise.
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So, Erik, can you confirm that "Tuch" is the lower part, "Kegel" is the pointy part, and "Scheier" is the hanging veil? That would mean that the naming (or numbering, I suppose) of the 4338 parts is wrong. If so, I'll rename the ones that don't appear in 4338, to match their German names, and re-colour and re-photo them to match the parts of whatever set they're in. In a really high percentage of cases, the German name is the same among parts of the same mold, but Playmobil does mess up occasionally. The instructions and official spare-parts lists are all I have to go on unless people who have ordered them, can confirm otherwise.
Consider it confirmed, Heather!!! ;) :)
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Whew. I think I got it fixed now.
PlaymoDB Parts Containing "headdress, ladies" (http://playmodb.org/cgi-bin/textsearch.pl?sortby=description&page=1&text=headdress%5C%2C+ladies&lang=all&pics=on)
They appear in these sets: Sets containing Spitzhaube parts (http://playmodb.org/cgi-bin/your_set_list.pl?setlist=3652,3659,4338,4530,4570,6324,7757;title=Sets containing Spitzhaube parts)
To make this game even more fun, I discovered that there are two versions of 7757 - Knight Family (http://playmodb.org/cgi-bin/showinv.pl?setnum=7757) - one with a yellow hanging veil, one with a white one. I just added both veils to the inventory, and added a photo of the other version.
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Hats off to PM detectives and Heather, you've completed this investigation in style with your last revelation "two versions of 7757 - Knight Family",
....I'm sure our friends in KW are amazed to follow this trail too :love:
btw, I thought GrahamB would have joined in....away?
hope we can have another joint investigation again :)
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btw, I thought GrahamB would have joined in....away?
Who me?
I started a reply, cheng, but realised the information in PlaymoDB was not correct (it is now!) and I had nothing else to go on. I ordered the child-sized ones from DS once. Glad this is sorted! Count me in on the next escapade....
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So, Erik, can you confirm that "Tuch" is the lower part, "Kegel" is the pointy part, and "Scheier" is the hanging veil?
I would translate as follows (even if Playmobil sometimes mixes up in the official descriptions);
* lower part = "Spitzhaube"
(Contrary to Erik I would not call it "Tuch". A female historical cap or bonnet is named "Haube" in German. And "pointy" = "Spitz" in German)
* pointy part ("cone" in English) = "Kegel" in German
* hanging veil = "Tuch" in this context and better "Scheier" as that word is the exact translation for "veil".
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hey Hadoque.....just when the dust was supposed to have settled ;D
..and having just burnt those couple of 'new' German terminology in my mind :P
anyway, here's a nice red whatever I hope they will reissue some day