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General => What is this??? => Topic started by: Clong on October 04, 2011, 03:36:53
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http://www.playmobil.de/on/demandware.store/Sites-DE-Site/de_DE/Product-Show?pid=6241&cgid=Piraten
just wondering if the new ship needs it to float right
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it gives the balance ,but it can float withought too !!!! :)
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I think you're gonna want it. It will tip without it.
I don't know why they wouldn't include it (except to keep the price down).
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the ballast weight will give a better "buoyancy" to the boat
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Personally, I'm happy they don't include it.. Like those underwater motors.. Years ago it was ridiculous - every little set brought one of these. Untill I win Euromillions, have no need for it.. We porbably used one of the motors ONCE in the tub :(
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Personally, I'm happy they don't include it.. Like those underwater motors.. Years ago it was ridiculous - every little set brought one of these. Untill I win Euromillions, have no need for it.. We porbably used one of the motors ONCE in the tub :(
Same here, its a pitty would be nice to have a big swimming pool were the boats could sail. :(
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Same here, its a pitty would be nice to have a big swimming pool were the boats could sail. :(
It'll still tip over even in the bathtub without it.
The older pirate ships came with metal bars in the bottom so they don't tip - new ones don't. That's why they need the ballast weight.
In short, floor or shelf usage - no weight. Water usage - weight.
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I really wonder how often kids use pirate ships in the bathtub anyways. Seems too big for that, a little swimming pool seems more appropriate. I did use the speedboats occasionly in bath in my childhood though. Maybe the pirate ship only once since it was possible.
But the pirate ships really don't seem appropriate to use much in water due to all the delicate parts. At least not to really play with.
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my son uses full size 3050 style and 3940 style ships in the tub daily. Unfortunate that his fav ship is the 3940 (same as the new ship) and he is disapppointed that even with ballast, it barely stays upright without taking on water at the gunports and capsizing. What a lame design for a floatable pirate ship that won't even stay afloat!
The only way we've ever gotten the 3940 style ship to float without modification was to strip her entirely of all crew and cargo. Even then, she is precarious at best :(
so yeah. You defiinitely want that ballast if you intend to have any water fun with it....but your range of fun IMO will still be a bit limited without severe modification. (seal the gunports, or stuff the bottom hull with styrofoam, and then add MORE ballast.) That's what I did with the Pearl. Though I can't speak for the new ship, I can say so at least about it's near-exact predecessor the 3940.
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What we used in the tub (and we weren't kids) was the little boat (like beach fun, from ages ago) and the first submarine... I don't think we ever used anything else... Certainly not a big ship.
Ok, all our earlier klickys, when we WERE kids, were quite used to the tub. There were diving championships and all. Adama, our blonde indian chief (he came like that in the box - that styrofoam 7 guys+4 horses one.. in 1983) was the undisputed champion. I remember that.
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The older pirate ships came with metal bars in the bottom so they don't tip - new ones don't. That's why they need the ballast weight.
right, but it also came with a polystyrene part to insert at the front of the boat. On the instruction about this polystyrene you can read "this buoyancy insert make your pirate ship unsinkable"
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right, but it also came with a polystyrene part to insert at the front of the boat. On the instruction about this polystyrene you can read "this buoyancy insert make your pirate ship unsinkable"
It might not "sink" to the bottom of the pond, but it will still fill with water and go under and capsize.
I can't recall off the top of my head if the newest ones still use foam. I think so, but I couldn't swear to it and I'm not near any of them.
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It might not "sink" to the bottom of the pond, but it will still fill with water and go under and capsize.
I can't recall off the top of my head if the newest ones still use foam. I think so, but I couldn't swear to it and I'm not near any of them.
yeah, the foam just prevents it from sinking to the bottom, but it will capsize and sink about 4-fifths submerged under water. On the 3050 style ships, including the later models (skull pirate ship and blackbeard's ship), they all come with styrofoam in the bow of the ship. When it capsizes, all but the bow sinks beneath the water, leaving the bow sticking upwards towards the sky. On the old 3940 ship (same hull as the new 5135) there is foam at the very bottom below the gundeck. When it capsizes, the ship turns completely upside down, masts pointing downward to the sea floor, and the bottom of the hull floating upside down facing the sky.
The 4290 has foam too inside, and the gunboats (like 4444) even have some foam in the stern. When the gunboats sink, all but the stern gets submerged. The 4290 flips upside down like the 3940.
prevent capsizing AND sinking at all, I've found that filling the ENTIRE hull with foam PLUS adding EXTRA ballast takes care of that.
I hope the fact that the 5135 comes with no ballast is an indicator that they somehow improved its stability and made it not just sink-proof, but capsize-proof as well. Anyone know how she handles yet?