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Does Playmobil ever make on commission? (ie. could we commission old steck?)

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--- Quote from: Rasputin on November 15, 2007, 17:41:14 ---In my opinion i think the way the company is doing it is fine . make new sets look old and keep modern set for the new collector. Also i do think Playmobil caters to the collector, how many children do you know asking for christmas the blue and red old house or the weapons stand ?

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I agree with you in principal, Rasputin. 

I just don't think PM should permanently retire sets for no reason other than to fuel a second hand "black market".  Geobra doesn't benefit from the second-hand collector's market (and may even be hurt by them if you consider the fan funnels money into the re-sale industry that could have gone to Geobra).

So, I think Geobra has an interest in teasing us now and again with re-releases, provided they can break even or profit off it.  If the toy sold once, it ought to be able to sell again.  The average kid probably plays with PM for five to seven years, so they can even bring back stuff to a completely fresh audience.  Granted, maybe they want to keep moving forward.  But any set over 10 years discontinued has never been seen by most PM kids (they weren't born yet!).



"black market" is a little over kill in terms. these are imported legally.  If the company went after every last avenue to get its fingers into every transaction it would give them a quite greedy image. To my knowledge no company benefits from the secondhand except from the DS orders to restore them . the other problem is most companies have a limiting production capability due to machines, storage, shipments, personnel etc. so the more old rerelease's they make, the less new sets can be made. Lets say just for example the western sets were still being made . This large production might have not left a sufficient amount of production capital for say the roman line..

and some how i do not think they permanently retire sets . If this was the policy they would destroy the mold, and this still could be remade. I think from a business perspective they may just wait around till that line shows new potential for marketability . and that does not come from a handfull of toy nuts.

The really high prices for old Playmobil tends to be a US eBay phenomenon.  Similar items in the UK tend to go much more cheaply, and in Germany cheaper still. 

Geobra is a company aiming for the mass market, and that means children of today and the re-issues are done with older fans in mind - nostalgia really - but the company cannot tie itself too closely to this market as it is small and very fickle. 

Over the last few years, Playmobil has greatly increased its range.  At one time, say 10 years ago, the Playmobil had about 250 items in the range and this was the norm.  As new items were introduced, old ones were retired so that the range remained at about 250 items.  Nowadays, the range is much bigger than this, but it probably does mean that items, especially if they are slow sellers, have a shorter live.

I noticed how the prices in the states seem to run wild as well. When i was looking for a express train mid car it sold for the same price as a complete train with track and the mid car in the UK  ??? I once thought it was supply and demand but now i think it might be uninformed shoppers. I watch a lot of ebay auctions go way over what the toy sold for new even if it is still available .

Did the product range increase soon after the new high tech warehouse was built?


--- Quote from: Rasputin on November 17, 2007, 17:09:40 ---I once thought it was supply and demand but now i think it might be uninformed shoppers. I watch a lot of ebay auctions go way over what the toy sold for new even if it is still available .

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I shouldn't try to analyze ebay shoppers like Sigmund Freud.  But, sometimes I think a combination of American aggressiveness/obsessiveness and recklessness with cash leads bidders here to take auctions personally.

People battle to the death ("I gotta have it" / "I won't let nu2ebay234 beat me!").  The high prices in turn fuel the opportunists who hope to re-sell.  Half the time I bid on auctions I suspect I'm competing with re-sellers (though, if this was the case, rational re-sellers would avoid over-priced auctions, so I'm probably wrong).

I agree calling the playmobil re-sale market "Black Market" is technically incorrect.  Just, there is so much dodgey dealing, calling it "Black Market" feels good...   :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[



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