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Title: Standard Klicky Disassembly~Advice Please/HowTo
Post by: Psyche on January 08, 2006, 21:50:18
Does anyone have access to Val's excellent instructions on basic disassembly of a klicky? If so, I would much appreciate it being posted here. Thank you.
Title: Re: Standard Klicky Disassembly~Advice Please/HowTo
Post by: Sylvia on January 08, 2006, 22:20:48
Good idea! I'm sure that would be helpful to many of the members. :yup:
I'll contact Val since I think it would be best if she is given the opportunity to post them here herself. :)
Title: Re: Standard Klicky Disassembly~Advice Please/HowTo
Post by: Psyche on January 08, 2006, 23:18:45
That would be super...Val, if you see this??? I used to have your instructions on file but can't seem to find them. Typically I have no problem cracking a klicky but I had a "tough" one today and wanted to refer back to the "classic" info.
Title: Re: Standard Klicky Disassembly~Advice Please/HowTo
Post by: Sylvia on January 08, 2006, 23:34:13
Ok, I've written to Val, but I'm not sure how soon she'll see my message.
In the meantime, I've found the info and will send it to you so you can 'get cracking' straight away. ;)
If anyone else needs these instructions before they get posted here, please PM me. :)
Title: Re: Standard Klicky Disassembly~Advice Please/HowTo
Post by: Richard on January 09, 2006, 05:31:46
BTW, if you use the "Hans on" method, for some unexplainable reason, it seems to usually work much better if you do it BEFORE you take the Klicky out of the plastic bag ...  :eh?:

I really like Sven's movie (http://www.svencentral.com/playmobil/hanson/hanson.html) for a very clear illustration for using the "Hans on" method.

And, if you haven't visited Sven's site (http://svencentral.com/playmobil/index.html) in awhile, it's worth taking a look just to see his Viking Village.

(http://svencentral.com/playmobil/vikings/images/hedeby-opening.jpg) (http://svencentral.com/playmobil/vikings/frame3.html)
click on image above

All the best,
Richard
Title: Re: Standard Klicky Disassembly~Advice Please/HowTo
Post by: Val on January 09, 2006, 09:00:00
Here you go...this was originally an email I wrote to a friend, so it`s been copied more times than the average pirate DVD by now! Nice to see it`s still of use,though....*ahem*...I don`t actually use this method any more! I use the fold-and-lean-on-it technique.

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"Hi,

I thought I would give this an email to itself, so you can keep it on file somewhere.

Lots of different variations on how this is done, so I`m just going to describe my method.

First thing...breakages. They do happen, but only once every thirty or so Klickies, in my experience. There are ways to minimise this.
The two bits that break most often are the legs, and internal clip or chassis. Two piece legs break most often...such as legs with boots on.

So first thing to learn is how to swop legs. Can you do this? I`ll assume not.

You need a smallish screwdriver...thin blade, about 5mm across. I have one that I slightly rounded the corners off with a file. Saves scratching.
Are you right handed? I am, so I`ll assume you are.

Get an adult klicky, lay it on its back on your desk, head to the left side, hands over its head. Insert the blade of your screwdriver vertically between the side of the legs of the figure and the white chassis part. Do this quite firmly, until you meet resistance. Then twist the screwdriver a quarter turn anti-clockwise. Legs should lever out quite easily.

If they don`t, or the screwdriver starts to scratch the figure, you don`t have the blade in far enough. It needs to be quite a thin blade....find an old, worn screwdriver.

To replace legs, you just have to hook one of the leg nobbles that act as pivot points back into the chassis, and gently push the other one in too. It helps if you do this with the Klicky lying flat on the desk as well.

This is pretty useful so far, because even just swopping legs, hair and accessories around can give figures a whole new look. Obviously you can`t put the legs of the fat-tummy figures on the standard ones, but you can take skirts off women like this, and make them into warriors etc just by putting legs on them.

Also the way to prevent two.piece legs breaking is to replace them with a pair of old one-piece legs, before proceeding to the next step.

There are lots of variations on this, which you can read up on in the Board threads. I`ve never had much trouble with this one, but it does depend on your hands, I think. It probably won`t work for you if you have hands the size of dinner plates, for example.

You need a pad of paper to protect your desk....don`t use your mouse mat..I did for a while, and I ruined it. Pad of A4 is fine.
Put the figure`s arms straight out in front of it, then make it into a sitting shape. Then cup it into your right hand, with the head of the figure just in the fleshy part below your middle finger. Curl your thumb round to keep it in place.

Here comes the hard part. You want to hit this poor Klicky into your paper pad, striking the heels at such an angle that the shock of the impact jars the head peg loose. Once you manage it once, you`ll see what I mean, so the first time is the most difficult .. (As in everything.)

Hit the Klicky into the pad of A4, aiming the legs at a 45degree angle, so the heels hit the pad hard. Do not try to ram the figure through the mat, but to let it rebound off again. Think bounce...

I`ve attached a picture of the above bit, to give you an idea of the angle. But it`s not great....difficult to take a pix of your own hand, I found out!

With any luck you just heard a soft pattering sound, as of Klicky parts falling softly onto the desk.

If no joy, try again. Don`t be afraid to use a bit of force, though it`s as much about the angle as anything. You have to work out what works for you.

(Use a Klicky you don`t mind breaking, for this attempt.)

Once you do one, you`ll do about fifty in the next ten minutes, I promise!

A note here about the chassis part, which sometimes breaks too. In my experience it`s the older, more brittle ones that break. Also I think it`s important to bounce them off the pad, not crash land them.
In addition, not all figures have the same chassis. Strange but true. Female Klickies have narrower waists, and you`ll find on reassembly that the male-type chassis won`t fit properly. Also older ones had a slightly different design. Check the fit before reassembly.

Which is easy. Fit a pair of legs onto the chassis, stand them on the table and add the torso. This is the time to add belts. Then put the arms in by lifting the torso up a fraction fro the chassis, rotating the arm connectors into place and pushing the whole lot down. You should be able to feel it sort of click together.

Good time to check the design, here, as they still come apart very easily. Make sure the arms are in properly, and that they rotate. Also females with the waisted design often have slightly curved arms, which are a left and right pair. You can end up with the curving towards the back.

Finally push the head peg in. You should hear it click (!) and seat in. If it doesn`t, it usually means that the arms aren`t in right. Or you have an improperly fitting chassis part, which can`t reach up to the top properly.

Fin.

Have fun!

Isabella."

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There was an image to go with this email, but you can`t just attach it here, can you? I`ll go and host it somewhere later if anyone needs it.
Title: Re: Standard Klicky Disassembly~Advice Please/HowTo
Post by: Sylvia on January 09, 2006, 09:18:20
Thanks, Richard, I'd forgotten about Sven's disassembly film. :-[

And thank you, Val, for posting your instructions so promptly! :)



There was an image to go with this email, but you can`t just attach it here, can you? I`ll go and host it somewhere later if anyone needs it.

You can find the attachments upload field by clicking the blue Additional Options link just below the Post Reply screen. It's a little different to other forums, so it's not surprising that some people don't find it right away. Serenity wrote some instructions on how to attach files and supplied screenshots. You'll find it in the Posting F.A.Q (http://www.playmofriends.com/forum/index.php?topic=76#msg565).  After you've read how it's done, you should be able to go back and modify your post by attaching the image so that it's all in one place. ;)
Title: Re: Standard Klicky Disassembly~Advice Please/HowTo
Post by: Richard on January 09, 2006, 12:31:54
If you're in a hurry and don't want to wait until Val posts her picture, you can go HERE (http://gardenwargaming.com/howto/03.html) for a step by step illustrated tutorial ... ;)

(http://gardenwargaming.com/howto/images/11sm.JPG) (http://gardenwargaming.com/howto/03.html)
click on graphc

And, if you want a complete tutorial for a disassembly method where (as those who have used it have reported) there's NEVER any damage to your klickys, click HERE (http://gardenwargaming.com/howto/01.html)!
Title: Re: Standard Klicky Disassembly~Advice Please/HowTo
Post by: Meg on January 09, 2006, 13:39:46
Other tips

If you are working with a stout male figure, swap the legs of a regular (trim) figure in first.
It will not "crack" open with stout legs.

With older figures, it is sometimes very difficult to "crack" them.

I havent found a way to "crack" original female figures.
I almost always end up destroying the dress piece which bothers me, as I am usually trying to replicate a figure in a set, and I need specific body pieces.

Rather than using the pounding method, some people just use slow heavy pressure.
They have the klicky sitting, and then put the feet at the approx 45 degree angle and just push it down to the floor.  I have down this a few times, I actually prefer to use a vice when using this approach.  The klicky must be properly protected from damge should as scuffing.

This method does not work for original females, though
Title: Re: Standard Klicky Disassembly~Advice Please/HowTo
Post by: socrates on January 09, 2006, 22:19:16
With older figures, it is sometimes very difficult to "crack" them.

I havent found a way to "crack" original female figures.
I almost always end up destroying the dress piece which bothers me, as I am usually trying to replicate a figure in a set, and I need specific body pieces.

I typically prefer the "leaning on"-method to crack the klickies...
But it is not working properly for all figures...

But for everything else...
 :hmm:
...there is the "spanish way"!

(see here: http://www.playmofriends.com/forum/index.php?topic=121.0 (http://www.playmofriends.com/forum/index.php?topic=121.0))

It is worth learning as it is the only method I never destroyed a klicky!
I recently even removed the heads from some brickled ancient klickys...

best regards
socrates
Title: Re: Standard Klicky Disassembly~Advice Please/HowTo
Post by: Meg on January 09, 2006, 23:15:03
yes, but I have yet to get the spanish method to work
Title: Re: Standard Klicky Disassembly~Advice Please/HowTo
Post by: Serenity on January 09, 2006, 23:21:14
I'm with you on that one, Meg
Title: Re: Standard Klicky Disassembly~Advice Please/HowTo
Post by: Richard on January 10, 2006, 03:07:06
FREE KLICKY DISASSEMBLY!

Yes, you read it correctly!

This summer (May through August) GW will disassemble any and all klickys for FREE!

If you want your klickys disassembled, simply put them in a box with a post paid return label and GW will send ALL your little klickys back to you in pieces ... (hopefully "unbroken" pieces) ... :)

Anyone interested should make their reservations now!

All the best,
Richard
Title: Re: Standard Klicky Disassembly~Advice Please/HowTo
Post by: socrates on January 10, 2006, 13:41:33
yes, but I have yet to get the spanish method to work

 ???
But it isn't that difficult!

I suggest to train it on an already disassembled new klicky...
There the head typically is kind of even more loose than before...

Just twirl around the elastic band as shown in the documentation and you will get a feeling for what to do to produce force onto the head...

I admit that I had some trouble to get out the head of a fat santa, because he is wearing a vest, so the band could not produce enough force to push the head out... I almost gave up, but then I realized that the head almost got out... ...tried it again... ...and voila - it popped out...

Maybe this helps?
 ::)

best regards,
socrates
Title: Re: Standard Klicky Disassembly~Advice Please/HowTo
Post by: Tim_w on January 10, 2006, 19:36:54
Hello  All

The best advice i can give with so many different techniques available is to go with what works for you. I still use the original method posted by our very own Val and its worked for me time and time again. I have to admit however it usually ends up with loud thudding noises coming through the kitchen celing as i hit the klickie repeatedly on my bedroom floor :lol: :D. These are usually followed by shouts of pain as i clumsily pinch the skin of my hand in the legs ;D. I have to admit after all these years i am quite fond of this method and anything else just wouldn't be the same :wave:.

Kindest Regards  Tim
Title: Re: Standard Klicky Disassembly~Advice Please/HowTo
Post by: Psyche on January 10, 2006, 20:45:37
Wow! Thanks for all the advice and Val thanks for reposting you excellent tutorial (it's now savely saved and backed up!) I did manage w/o it but really wanted to check my hand postition on one troublesome fellow.

Meg, thanks also for the chubby klicky tip...I've a very non-cooperative Santa who needs to lose his britches.

Richard, thanks for the link to Sven's site, I'd not been there in some time.

Tim...your method sounds closest to mine only insert a few choice curse words for "shouts of pain." That seems to do the trick!  ;D
Title: Re: Standard Klicky Disassembly~Advice Please/HowTo
Post by: Meg on January 12, 2006, 04:10:36
I use a piece of scrap piece of felt to protect me hands.
I have gotten blood blisters from this method.

M
Title: Re: Standard Klicky Disassembly~Advice Please/HowTo
Post by: socrates on January 12, 2006, 09:32:46
My dear grandma used to knit pot clothes...

I use them to dissassemble klickies, as the feet have a good hold in
the cloth and the figure wrapped in the remaining cloth cant hurt
my hands...

Good old grandma...

socrates
Title: Re: Standard Klicky Disassembly~Advice Please/HowTo
Post by: Psyche on January 14, 2006, 02:59:30
I use a piece of scrap piece of felt to protect me hands.


Does it help Meg? I've not gotten blisters but it does hurt once in awhile. I've taken to wearing a thin garden glove on "resistant" klickies as it has good traction.

Socrates...what's a pot cloth foot???  ???

Title: Re: Standard Klicky Disassembly~Advice Please/HowTo
Post by: Meg on January 14, 2006, 04:47:52
Yes, it does help alot.
I always seem to remember how much the felt hurts after I try to crack open a resitant one.   ::)
Title: Re: Standard Klicky Disassembly~Advice Please/HowTo
Post by: Sylvia on January 15, 2006, 10:47:05
Socrates...what's a pot cloth foot???  ???

My take on that sentence was that the feet refers to the klicky's feet and  "pot clothes" are knitted covers sometimes put over a food pot to keep the contents heated for longer. In Britain (and Australia), people occasionally use these knitted things on teapots or eggs but we call them a "cosy" (tea-cosy, egg-cosy, etc) which I think evokes a slightly strange attitude of friendship towards your food and drink. ;D


If you want your klickys disassembled, simply put them in a box with a post paid return label and GW will send ALL your little klickys back to you in pieces ... (hopefully "unbroken" pieces) ... :)

Anyone interested should make their reservations now!

Any takers on your "Free Disassembly" offer yet, Richard? :)
Title: Re: Standard Klicky Disassembly~Advice Please/HowTo
Post by: cardensb on November 22, 2011, 05:19:58
I hate to resurrect old posts on other forums but this one should be "stickied", if possible, so newcomers can find it.  I had no idea if the older klickies could be taken apart without major efforts.  After skimming here for a few minutes I popped out the legs with a flat-tip screw driver then pulled the off the head with a hobby vise, a tight grip with my fingers on the torso and a little brute force.
I can't wait to start looking through figures for matching part colors to give my Blackbeard a real arm (perhaps a new jacket to boot).
Title: Re: Standard Klicky Disassembly~Advice Please/HowTo
Post by: Giorginetto on September 05, 2012, 10:38:12
I am brining back tolife this old thread as i need to di assemple some klickies.. what is hte best method for older klikcies then ? the screwdriver first legs out etc , or the shoestring method or the spanish method ... i am a bit confused and any tips will be appreciated . :) :) :) :)
Title: Re: Standard Klicky Disassembly~Advice Please/HowTo
Post by: Salamander on June 13, 2013, 21:08:16
I need to get the head off of my queen from Dragon's Temple 3841.

From reading here, the long skirt klickies don't work with the Hans method. And the large collar around the neck makes the rubber band method (which I've never tried) out as well.  Any suggestions? Would tahra's fishing line method work with the collar?
Title: Re: Standard Klicky Disassembly~Advice Please/HowTo
Post by: bonniebeth on June 13, 2013, 21:40:30
I have had success using the hans-on method with skirted klickies. You can also try a slight variation on the hans-on method, where instead of sharply banging the klicky on a table, you squeeze it between your hands with steady pressure. This way you'll be less likely to damage or scratch her feet. Just be sure to insert a piece of cardboard or folded paper in the joint where the legs meet the torso, in front. This not only prevents scratching, but provides leverage. If squeezing the klicky in your hands, you may also need to use something to pad your hands, as the feet digging in to your palm can be very painful.
Title: Re: Standard Klicky Disassembly~Advice Please/HowTo
Post by: Sylvia on June 13, 2013, 23:51:59
I use a small narrow-bladed screwdriver to carefully remove the skirt from the torso. Then I click in a pair of old style standard legs and do the "hans on" manoeuvre. Works well for me. You just need to be careful not to scratch the edge of the skirt with the screwdriver. After a few times, you get a feel for how much pressure is need to pop it off without leaving any mark.
Title: Re: Standard Klicky Disassembly~Advice Please/HowTo
Post by: tahra on June 14, 2013, 07:05:39
I need to get the head off of my queen from Dragon's Temple 3841.

From reading here, the long skirt klickies don't work with the Hans method. And the large collar around the neck makes the rubber band method (which I've never tried) out as well.  Any suggestions? Would tahra's fishing line method work with the collar?

So far, I haven't encountered one "type" I can't pop that way... just make sure to slip the noose on the head, not under the neckpiece. Actually, sometimes the big neckpiece ones pop easier!
Title: Re: Standard Klicky Disassembly~Advice Please/HowTo
Post by: hauden_lukas on June 14, 2013, 13:43:56
I use a small narrow-bladed screwdriver to carefully remove the skirt from the torso. Then I click in a pair of old style standard legs and do the "hans on" manoeuvre. Works well for me. You just need to be careful not to scratch the edge of the skirt with the screwdriver. After a few times, you get a feel for how much pressure is need to pop it off without leaving any mark.

That is the way to go for me as well! Same for "obese" klickies.
Title: Re: Standard Klicky Disassembly~Advice Please/HowTo
Post by: Salamander on June 14, 2013, 14:57:39
Thank you everyone, I feel more confident that I'll be able to do it now!
Title: Re: Standard Klicky Disassembly~Advice Please/HowTo
Post by: hauden_lukas on May 25, 2014, 18:25:31
Here is the proof how superior the "hit-the-head-method" is:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9q-ySZXxoZQ&feature=youtu.be
Title: Re: Standard Klicky Disassembly~Advice Please/HowTo
Post by: tahra on May 25, 2014, 18:34:58
Here is the proof how superior the "hit-the-head-method" is:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9q-ySZXxoZQ&feature=youtu.be

:o

AWESOME. Maybe I should give it a(nother) try. After all, the great majority of popped klickys ARE non-fat men...
Title: Re: Standard Klicky Disassembly~Advice Please/HowTo
Post by: hauden_lukas on May 25, 2014, 18:51:29
Doesn't work for "fat" klickies, of course, need to change the legs first, then it is the same...
Title: Re: Standard Klicky Disassembly~Advice Please/HowTo
Post by: Birdie on May 26, 2014, 14:13:52
Wait... what? How does that work?  :D

Do I need to scroll through this thread to read up on this extraordinary method, or is it something new (magic?!)
Title: Re: Standard Klicky Disassembly~Advice Please/HowTo
Post by: hauden_lukas on May 26, 2014, 14:33:38
Wait... what? How does that work?  :D

Do I need to scroll through this thread to read up on this extraordinary method, or is it something new (magic?!)

Here's how:
- bend legs
- bring arms into forward position
- turn head sideways (this is not mandatory but in case you break a piece of the neck, the head sits firm later in the forward looking position)
- get a soft carpet/rug/towel
- place figure head up and position the still bent legs so they are about at an 45 degree angle to the carpet/rug/towel (but the klicky is still in the sitting position!).
- a smack on the head disassembled the figure.
Title: Re: Standard Klicky Disassembly~Advice Please/HowTo
Post by: tahra on May 26, 2014, 15:05:44
I may be hapless, but ages ago when I tried this I managed to break legs. So, better practice on non-unreplaceable legs before!

(need to try it again too...)