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General => Brainstorming For Playmobil => Topic started by: jodawill on April 12, 2022, 13:07:57
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With the advent of the revival of the Victorian theme, do you all think there's a higher chance now that they may reboot the 1990s Knights theme with a rerelease of 3666? They've periodically teased us with some rereleases from this line, like the current 6464 "Group of Outlaws." I think it would be terrific if they'd rerelease the old castle soon. Honestly, I'd probably buy about five of them. ;D
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It would be great to see it again, they are edging around it from time to time but getting the big set would be great. It's a true classic.
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If they were willing to re-release 5300 then I don't see why not.
3652 (jousting set) would be my top pick from that era of Medieval sets
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3666 was my first Playmobil purchase in mid 1990s! Man, the hours of fun I had redesigning it and making different Steck layouts! I would probably buy 2 or 3 myself!
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With the amount of plastic this set demands and the direction oil prices are going I see a less chance currently
If the oil/gas was to flow then I’d be more optimistic
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With the amount of plastic this set demands and the direction oil prices are going I see a less chance currently
If the oil/gas was to flow then I’d be more optimistic
Didn't playmobil come into being as a result of the 1970's oil crisis?
What they could do in any case is focus on the figures and reduce the large background pieces which are mostly single use.
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What they could do in any case is focus on the figures and reduce the large background pieces which are mostly single use.
Exactly... There is no understanding them. I am pretty sure most of us have some of the first steck parts about in our steck tubs, no? Being compatible AND able to make use of MORE parts should be a must these days. Oh, wait, but then people might actually BUY more sets. The HORROR. ::) ???
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Exactly... There is no understanding them. I am pretty sure most of us have some of the first steck parts about in our steck tubs, no? Being compatible AND able to make use of MORE parts should be a must these days. Oh, wait, but then people might actually BUY more sets. The HORROR. ::) ???
If I'm understanding you correctly - that if all Playmobil building were compatible they would sell more - then I don't think this is true.
Playmobil isn't a building toy. As a child, I had more Playmobil than anyone I knew, I got Playmobil for every birthday and Christmas. What could I do in terms of varying buildings? Very little, because even Steck isn't really a very flexible building system. Yes, people on here can build amazing things, but in reality almost no child is going to have enough Playmobil to do that. You could, of course, devise it so that it was more flexible (and as an adult, that is the dream) but that's extremely unlikely to happen.
I do think it would be desirable if they took a more consistent approach to their buildings, and as an adult it is annoying. But I don't honestly think any child is going to be put off buying a set because it's not compatible.
System-X is probably the closest they've come to trying to be a building toy, but I presume that the reason it's been partially phased out is that parents didn't like the length of time it took to assemble.
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If I'm understanding you correctly - that if all Playmobil building were compatible they would sell more - then I don't think this is true.
Well.. we will agree to disagree.... What I mean is if things weren't stupidly made to NOT be used in ANY other way, they'd sell more. Take the ghostbusters less-than-half-building. Looks pretty, totally different from other buildings. But.. it's tiny and incomplete. Buy TWO! Wait, no... that doesn't solve anything. That is what I mean...
Like the stupid system WHY rocks - for example the HTTYD ones..
Also something that doesn't seem to worry them is that we DO need to put it away.... And these idiotic systems made to just build one thing, many times are not made to be disassembled... and they are huge.. then WHAT? (I am guessing this should be an even bigger problem for "normal" kids?)
Playmobil isn't a building toy.
Not the main focus, NO. BUT... first ever steck we had was the magician's workshop. It was my sister's... I played HOURS doing different stuff with those parts - and consider many are just ruins, so...
WHY wouldn't they want a system that CAN be extended? These lame new castles have strong limitations (a fact for which my wallet is VERY grateful - we have none)...
What could I do in terms of varying buildings? Very little, because even Steck isn't really a very flexible building system.
True - steck is made for buildings, yes. But you can do an amazing range of stuff with it... A lot of limitations can be overcome creatively, but I admit it could use a load of parts. With 3D printing, the possibilities are endless (I avoid looking into those, at least until I find a bank to.... visit. >:D )
Yes, people on here can build amazing things, but in reality almost no child is going to have enough Playmobil to do that.
Of course not, especially if they are treated like idiots... "oh, no, that'd be soooo complicated to build... better a hunk of plastic, and lets make sure they know who is who!"
The american boxes of old had explanations on how to play. It was shocking. These days, it's spreading :(
But I don't honestly think any child is going to be put off buying a set because it's not compatible.
You are probably right. However, the adult in charge of the wallet might. Why get ANOTHER building/whetever, if it's another huge thing and you can't even use them together?
System-X is probably the closest they've come to trying to be a building toy, but I presume that the reason it's been partially phased out is that parents didn't like the length of time it took to assemble.
Yes, imagine that... spending time with their brats! We keep getting things made for the lowest common denominator (is that the name in english?) :(
I don't have enough experience with system X. If I live long enough, one day I will fix that.
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Didn't playmobil come into being as a result of the 1970's oil crisis?
What they could do in any case is focus on the figures and reduce the large background pieces which are mostly single use.
Perhaps Geobra could once again go the historical route , start a micro toy line of playmobil mini’s . Then collectors storage problems would be solved as the klickies would be 1/2 an inch (1.25cm) tall
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I bought a Lion Knight's Castle for my son a couple years ago. I built it myself to make sure all the parts where there, but I haven't given it to him yet. At the time, I decided he was too young, then we had another baby, starting the cycle all over again. We're moving to a bigger house this year, so I plan to give it to him then. But I regret buying it. It's a really cool castle, but here's the thing.
The big rock piece that came with it was snapped in half. So I emailed Playmobil, and they sent me another one, which was also broken, but it was still usable. This castle is totally useless without any one of those large pieces. When I bought it, I thought I could connect multiples together and re-arrange the different parts. Nope! You can only use it in the way it was designed. When a major part breaks, the rest of the set becomes totally useless.
I actually love System X. I haven't gotten any steck sets myself yet. But I have half a dozen of the Naval Stronghold sets, and from time to time, my son and I pull them out and make giant forts. It's a lot of fun. (And it takes up so much more space than I ever would have imagined! :lol: ) We also have a couple of the System X western forts.
I imagine the problem parents would have with System X is not so much how long it takes to assemble, but the time they have to spend RE assembling large sets, especially ones that involve large rock pieces, which don't hold the pins very well. But I don't think System WHY solves this problem either.
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For me
Stecks for Western, Victorian & Medieval
System X for modern buildings , great for skyscrapers
Im not sure what the system is called but I really like the western log system for the forts
Modular (system Y) go into storage or cannon fodder
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These recent castles are more system WHY than X - putting a couple of connectors on it doesn't make it system X, imo. Actually even the first castles are not true system X, with those HUMONGUOS (and idiotic!) parts, it is hard to mess with them. And the walls are ridiculous, because they can not be made higher. There are few parts truly useful, like simple walls or windows.
And you are right, Rasputin - that old fort is AMAZING. :love: :love: :love: So many possibilities (and so useful in so many settings). And there are parts to connect it to steck too!
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Here is a little wishful thinking
https://www.theverge.com/2022/6/18/23173256/lego-lion-knights-castle-90th-anniversary-birthday-price-release-date
If LEGO does it, perhaps Geobra will follow suit
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That's an awesome set. I like that it includes the possibility for civilian and military play whereas Playmobil has separated the two into fantasy knights and princess castle and neither do a particularly good job of things. Fingers crossed the new steck buildings with a civilian focus will see this change. It would be great if they put out some new parts for the half-timber buildings.
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Now Lego is expanding on the big castle
https://brickset.com/article/79068/promising-castle-themed-projects-on-lego-ideas
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Now Lego is expanding on the big castle
https://brickset.com/article/79068/promising-castle-themed-projects-on-lego-ideas
All these sets are just submissions on Lego Ideas as far as I know. I don't really follow Lego, but I would presume that there have been medieval submissions on there ever since they started running it, and the Blacksmith is the only one that ever made the cut.
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I don’t collect Lego so I don’t know what they make
My point is that if Lego is having a renaissance of the knights theme and playmobil pays close attention to their strategy then perhaps in 10 years Geobra will copy .
Thankfully Geobra is making some Tudor buildings but they have been going in a modem twist direction
Here is hoping for a classic playmobil stecks revival
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The wedge shape cafe they do could easily be done in steck, even a version based on the old zoo. I still wished they'd made these one off partial buildings so they can be combined like being able to place two cafe type buildings together to form something more solid. This is why they need a construction element back, most of the current buildings are one off single use backdrops more like stage decorations.
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My point is that if Lego is having a renaissance of the knights theme and playmobil pays close attention to their strategy then perhaps in 10 years Geobra will copy .
Playmobil has - in a limited way - been releasing the Steck Framework houses for at least a decade - and over the years Playmobil has been more more dedicated to a castle theme than Lego has (I have no idea if this attachment has any basis in economics or not)
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Playmobil has - in a limited way - been releasing the Steck Framework houses for at least a decade
That's a really good point.
Playmobil has never not had a steck building for sale. Even when the 3666 era was discontinued they still had the small house with green windows and the larger barn for sale through direct service. I think steck towers and gates were also available.
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Here is a little wishful thinking
https://www.theverge.com/2022/6/18/23173256/lego-lion-knights-castle-90th-anniversary-birthday-price-release-date
I'm cutting down on my PM consumption and start saving NOW: this gorgeous 10305 is a must-have.