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Title: the collectors book doesn't have all the sets that were ever produced??
Post by: playmo1989 on May 01, 2010, 20:19:28
the collectors book doesn't have all the sets that were ever produced??
Title: Re: the collectors book doesn't have all the sets that were ever produced??
Post by: Sylvia on May 01, 2010, 20:40:41

It doesn't have everything, but Axel, the author, is trying very hard to fill in the missing sets and gaps with each new edition he releases.

One thing I'm positive of - it doesn't have all the official keychains ever released... and I doubt it ever will! ;D

Title: Re: the collectors book doesn't have all the sets that were ever produced??
Post by: playmo1989 on May 01, 2010, 20:55:58
is it missing many sets? what are these keychains??
Title: Re: the collectors book doesn't have all the sets that were ever produced??
Post by: Sylvia on May 01, 2010, 21:01:07

I wouldn't be able to say how many are missing. The gaps are more likely to be found with the sets which were produced outside Germany. I noticed some Lyra sets missing from the 2nd edition, but maybe they made it into the current one (which I haven't bought yet. :-[)

As for the figure keychains, I have quite a few vintage ones which are not in the book but I'm certain they were made by Playmobil because they have the logo printed on the back. I think Axel will only add them to the catalogue if he has some kind of set number or other reference to prove they are authentic.
Title: Re: the collectors book doesn't have all the sets that were ever produced??
Post by: playmo1989 on May 01, 2010, 21:07:15
the keychains are the figures that have a chain for your keys?? if it is this usually from what i know these are given as a gift from the fun park if you buy something!! orthey were available on stores as well and you could buy them?
Title: Re: the collectors book doesn't have all the sets that were ever produced??
Post by: Sylvia on May 01, 2010, 21:17:34

Yes, that's the ones I'm talking about! :)

From time to time they sell these at the FunParks. Other times they have been given away by the DS when you spend over a certain amount of money. I didn't know they gave them away at the FunParks too - interesting!

Occasionally keychain/keyring figures have also been available to buy through the DS catalogue too. I have a few very old DS catalogues from about 80s-90s which show keychains for sale such as the ape, Romani clowns, Victorian ladies, and others. The most recent example of this was the blue-uniformed Police figure keychains a couple of years ago. :)
Title: Re: the collectors book doesn't have all the sets that were ever produced??
Post by: Giorginetto on May 01, 2010, 22:52:56
Yes, that's the ones I'm talking about! :)

From time to time they sell these at the FunParks. Other times they have been given away by the DS when you spend over a certain amount of money. I didn't know they gave them away at the FunParks too - interesting!

Occasionally keychain/keyring figures have also been available to buy through the DS catalogue too. I have a few very old DS catalogues from about 80s-90s which show keychains for sale such as the ape, Romani clowns, Victorian ladies, and others. The most recent example of this was the blue-uniformed Police figure keychains a couple of years ago. :)

Lots of keuchained figures were available in the Uk in teh late 90s and early 00s... Edition 3 is better over edition 1 ( i dont have edition 20 and you can pick edition 3 in the Playmo shop in Kiffisia, Athens. I would also suggest the purchase of ' Story of a Smile' , th esatory of playmobil, its a lovely coffee book table nicely illustrated about the history of playmobil. Amust to have in my opinion after the collector's edition of course !!!
Title: Re: the collectors book doesn't have all the sets that were ever produced??
Post by: playmo1989 on May 01, 2010, 23:00:42
why the keychains are not shown on the collectors book??
Title: Re: the collectors book doesn't have all the sets that were ever produced??
Post by: Giorginetto on May 02, 2010, 00:16:22
why the keychains are not shown on the collectors book??

They are in edition 3 page 532  ;)
Title: Re: the collectors book doesn't have all the sets that were ever produced??
Post by: CountBogro on May 02, 2010, 09:01:55
this might be somewhat interesting.
I had a little chat about this with Axel back in 2004, just after he had released his first collector's guide.

He told me that he had just finished the book when someone had pointed out to him that there were also these keychains.
He went to his contact and asked for more details. The told him that they had indeed made these.
He asked if he could have the productionlists.
Lists?
Well, they could him wat's being produced. With some effort they might be able to find wat was produced the year before. But that is it.
Sooo ... problem is - there's nothing tellling Axel what has been produced before. There are some snips of info here and there; but there's no definit list
His list is the only thing there is...

Bogro
Title: Re: the collectors book doesn't have all the sets that were ever produced??
Post by: cachalote on May 02, 2010, 13:46:11
i don't know why but i always had a feeling that playmobil is not that good at organizing its own history.  :hmm:
can it be possible that they don't keep a group of all the sets they produced, keychains included?  ???
can it be possible that they don't have a fool-proof vault at zirndorf where all this is kept, away form the light under a coltrolled atmosphere?  ???
can it be possible that they have doubts about the dates and production numbers of every set?  ???

it is often said that playmobil is still a very "family" business and what count bogro describes seems to confirm this.  :-\
if a collectors club is on the way maybe there is still a lot of way to be walked "internally" for playmobil.  :)
maybe they need our help...
  :)
Title: Re: the collectors book doesn't have all the sets that were ever produced??
Post by: Wolf Knight on May 02, 2010, 13:59:34

maube they need our help...
  :)

We'll be here to hlep it!!!

I have a lyra western bank that is not in the 2nd edition collector, maybe its in the third...
Title: Re: the collectors book doesn't have all the sets that were ever produced??
Post by: Martin Milner on May 02, 2010, 14:08:56
i don't know why but i always had a feeling that playmobil is not that good at organizing its own history.  :hmm:
can it be possible that they don't keep a group of all the sets they produced, keychains included?  ???
can it be possible that they don't have a fool-proof vault at zirndorf where all this is kept, away form the light under a coltrolled atmosphere?  ???
can it be possible that they have doubts about the dates and production numbers of every set?  ???

it is often said that playmobil is still a very "family" business and what count bogro describes seems to confirm this.  :-\
if a collectors club is on the way maybe there is still a lot of way to be walked "internally" for playmobil.  :)
maube they need our help...
  :)

Back in 1974 Geobra had no idea how Playmobil would take off, but do Lego and other companies keep copy of every set they ever produce? It'd require several warehouses.
Title: Re: the collectors book doesn't have all the sets that were ever produced??
Post by: Sir Gareth on May 02, 2010, 14:37:40
We'll be here to hlep it!!!

I have a lyra western bank that is not in the 2nd edition collector, maybe its in the third...

Theres 2 banks in the 3rd edition 3422 and 9022 are any of these your missing bank?
Title: Re: the collectors book doesn't have all the sets that were ever produced??
Post by: cachalote on May 02, 2010, 15:02:17
you are right of course martin.  :yup:

i was wishful-thinking when i thought of a gigantic warehouse vault filled with all sets m.i.b. lined up in shelves, each one preceded by its contents assembled.  :-[
with each set there would be a samll monitor explaining everything - dates, parts numbers, production numbers, lists of similar sets...  :-[

... and on-line, all this available to all collectors club members, with direct links to order any missing parts.  ;)

a lot of work has already been done by fans to achieve this.
there is axel books  :wow: and sbblabotw playmodb  :wow: and collectobil (i think its creator is now working with playmobil).
there is even an official archive for european sets inside playmobil.de.

maybe we are not so "distant" after all.
  :hmm:
Title: Re: the collectors book doesn't have all the sets that were ever produced??
Post by: playmo1989 on May 02, 2010, 16:04:38
i don't know why but i always had a feeling that playmobil is not that good at organizing its own history.  :hmm:
can it be possible that they don't keep a group of all the sets they produced, keychains included?  ???
can it be possible that they don't have a fool-proof vault at zirndorf where all this is kept, away form the light under a coltrolled atmosphere?  ???
can it be possible that they have doubts about the dates and production numbers of every set?  ???

it is often said that playmobil is still a very "family" business and what count bogro describes seems to confirm this.  :-\
if a collectors club is on the way maybe there is still a lot of way to be walked "internally" for playmobil.  :)
maybe they need our help...
  :)


 well i don't think they take the history so seriously because they say they are only toys and are for children until now they ignore our existance in all the ways .they only care of how many toys are going to sell in the present the history won't  bring money to the company at present. this is one side of the story what do you think??
Title: Re: the collectors book doesn't have all the sets that were ever produced??
Post by: Wolf Knight on May 02, 2010, 16:12:02
That is true...when something is produced I do not think that all believe this will go and make people so much happy and crazy to start collecting....But once you see people collecting, one cannot disregard the fact that collecting becomes such an important factor in your business...Thus you have to keep this group happy and take their oppinion into consideration...
Title: Re: the collectors book doesn't have all the sets that were ever produced??
Post by: playmo1989 on May 02, 2010, 16:17:55
yes we 'll see what will happen with the collector's club 8-)
Title: Re: the collectors book doesn't have all the sets that were ever produced??
Post by: CountBogro on May 03, 2010, 20:03:40
Geobra is indeed very bad at keeping it's own history. To be honest; I find that most companies are.
They are only interested in the here, now the foreseeable future. And no - Geobra has almost nothing -neither sets nor documentation.
It's a sad affair.
But then again; they are making a living for itself and itself.

Hard but true.

Bogro