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General => News => Topic started by: Hadoque on February 17, 2019, 23:01:33
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Playmobil for businesses & professionals...
https://pro.playmobil.com/
(I found the info on Klickywelt forum)
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I want the solid color klickies.
We have a business consulting company management is working with that used building with LEGOs as an illustration of assembly line methods. So the concept here isn't too far off what's done out there in the real world.
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Is this real or a joke ?
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Intriguing, but how much?
PS: don't switch the sound on!
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Well.. I want those heads, at least! :D
Weird though.
And.. why is the "company" field mandatory? Ah, right.. money. YUCK. The HORROR.
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That looks really interesting and the accessories look interesting too. At the 1:09 mark, top box in middle. Is that a 70s era medieval cape in white? The cape with the square end.
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Done.
Ok, I REALLY want those klickys. And the "box" saying "playmobil" :-[
The rest doesn't seem that interesting, does it?
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Yeah, I want it just for the neat storage system, lol. I would think it would be convenient for therapists who use playmobil to help children express themselves, too.
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Is it ready to go or are they simply gauging interest right now?
Oh ok, coming soon. I got too excited and didn't quite finish the video. :lol:
I'll tell my boss to get this kit if he wants me to pay attention during meetings and briefings.
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I'll tell my boss to get this kit if he wants me to pay attention during meetings and briefings.
:lmao: :lmao:
Must be expensive as Hades... For a few klickys.
And though I think the box looks great, to me.... well... What I REALLY wanted was the crates in the factory, EURONORM crates marked "playmobil"... :P
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But will Geobra be willing to sell it to individuals without a business? It is called "Pro" for a reason I´d think...
Do you guys & girls (& ...) have a company and/or business license and/or VAT-registration ?
I'll tell my boss to get this kit if he wants me to pay attention during meetings and briefings.
:lol:
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:lmao: :lmao:
What I REALLY wanted was the crates in the factory, EURONORM crates marked "playmobil"... :P
Here's some more merchandise but you may need to move a couple of pots to make room for them:
https://fac.img.pmdstatic.net/fit/https.3A.2F.2Fphoto.2Efemmeactuelle.2Efr.2Fupload.2Fslideshow.2Fbienvenue-dans-l-usine-a-reves-playmobil-12641.2Fdirection-les-magasins-de-jouets-du-monde-entier-223314.2Ejpg/902x600/quality/65/direction-les-magasins-de-jouets-du-monde-entier.jpg
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This is a more convenient size:
https://media.gettyimages.com/photos/by-laure-fillon-a-playmobil-delivery-truck-is-parked-at-the-german-picture-id79980278?s=612x612
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But will Geobra be willing to sell it to individuals without a business? It is called "Pro" for a reason I´d think...
Do you guys & girls (& ...) have a company and/or business license and/or VAT-registration ?
PLEASE do NOT mention playmobil and vat in the same sentence to me, ok?
And I believe they will not sell to us common mortals. We would pay MONEY for it. And we all know how they feel about that.
(I probably would NOT buy it, I expect a ridiculous price - wallet sighs with relief)
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I oftentimes use L*go Serious Play for presentations, workshops and discussions, so I'm excited about this! (I put down the nonprofit organization that I work for as the "company" - don't tell!) Needs more stuffs in the containers methinks, but didn't see them open ALL the containers.
But the containers themselves... SO PRETTY! Want.
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PLEASE do NOT mention playmobil and vat in the same sentence to me, ok?
playmobil + VAT + playmobil + VAT + playmobil + VAT + ... = Paymybil ?
:P
I expect a ridiculous price
Yeah, most probably...
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playmobil + VAT + playmobil + VAT + playmobil + VAT + ... = Paymybil ?
:lol: :lol: :lol:
Playmobil for adults. They abandoned the PCC and came up with this..... garbage?
Fancy boxes containing a bunch of random accessories (and, yes, some nice-looking klickies) you could buy on eBay for a few ££/$$/€€ by searching 'playmobil joblot'. Mind you that is a nice-looking white cloak!
I think bonniebeth's idea about therapists using a kit like this is a good one. I have certainly witnessed children acting out interesting domestic situations with toys.
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playmobil + VAT + playmobil + VAT + playmobil + VAT + ... = Paymybil ?
Don't make fun... the iberia store STILL didn't fix that. Yes, it's going on 8 years. AT LEAST.
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It does look therapeutic, but I fear what the price tag will be. I have a business, though "the boss needs toys" is not a valid business expense. :lol:
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I have a business, though "the boss needs toys" is not a valid business expense. :lol:
:lmao: :lmao: :lmao:
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They aren't toys, they are "mental health aides" which are in fact a deductible business expense. ;)
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They aren't toys, they are "mental health aides" which are in fact a deductible business expense. ;)
That is how I have been deducting my blue box purchases for years ;D
Has anybody received a follow up email or news letter yet ?
I am wondering if this is just a “fishing” experiment for potential companies
I think it would be counter productive if they tried to sell them at a high premium this early in the game of getting the Geobra brand recognized as a corporate tool.
It’s just a plastic box with uni-colored playmobil , basically a “color” set
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It’s just a plastic box with uni-colored playmobil , basically a “color” set
Highly interesting for us playmonuts, but I fail to see why would anyone else care. Like someone said, just grab a bag of old klickys off ebay...
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They aren't toys, they are "mental health aides" which are in fact a deductible business expense. ;)
Well, in that case, so is a hamster. ;)
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Don't make fun... the iberia store STILL didn't fix that. Yes, it's going on 8 years. AT LEAST.
What´s the story with VAT and Playmobil where you are? ???
Magister Google tells me normal VAT rate is 23% in Portugal (in Belgium it´s 21%, in Germany 19%) ...
sorry for mentioning THE 2 words in one sentence again :-[
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"mental health aides"
Burn-out Prevention Toys. Demand will be huge, from employees. Unions will go on strike when companies shouldn´t buy them.
Trump will call it Playmocare to replace Obamacare.
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What´s the story with VAT and Playmobil where you are? ???
The issue is with the useless idiots that made the site - there's a validation function (on the CLIENT side) that is wrong, and prevents MANY VAT numbers - effectively stopping people from registering and purchasing.
I had a REAL hard time to find a vat number that managed to be accepted, among a BUNCH of numbers from friends.
And they are completely useless handling this situation...
Gonna shut up now.
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So, it's available...
Did anyone see a "contents" thing? I see a lot of pointless blabbing, but not what it actually brings..
And the price..
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Please sit.
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Did you sit?
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499!?
Are they FREAKING KIDDING? I REALLY wanna see the contents... does it include klickys made of gold too? That'd be interesting. Not sure if it would be 499 interesting, but....
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499!?
*Without the local VAT!!! So, for Belgium it would be 603,79 euro!!!
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*Without the local VAT!!! So, for Belgium it would be 603,79 euro!!!
:o I didn't even see that part - my brain locked when I saw the 499!! :o
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My goodness, the tuba is part of it!!! So, it might be available as well, as a part via DS!
(https://pro.playmobil.com/sites/default/files/default_images/IMG_7506.jpg)
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I still want to see a "contents" pic...
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Here's something close to a contents pic:
user guide (https://playmobil.a.bigcontent.io/v1/static/PLAYMOBILpro_User_Guide_WEB)
The link is on the home page if you scroll down a bit. :)
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Here's something close to a contents pic:
user guide (https://playmobil.a.bigcontent.io/v1/static/PLAYMOBILpro_User_Guide_WEB)
The link is on the home page if you scroll down a bit. :)
Great, thanks a lot! I’m going to try to order the tuba soon!
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I suppose these are a special plastic for writing on like a whiteboard?
Thanks for the link Indianna, nice to see just what is in the set.
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I suppose the tuba is 400 euro. :lol:
Wouldn't a transparency pen (for those of us old enough to remember projectors with transparency sheets) work fine on regular Playmo?
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Here's something close to a contents pic:
Thank you - I saw the link but from the name I thought it was more of the same, and then I didn't have time to look into it.
Now.. Why aren't all the animals white?
And I want those white babies (and kids). Why aren't there any skirted women? :P
I also think ALL the accessories should be white ;D
Well, I'd love to get my hands on those, but can't. :(
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Wouldn't a transparency pen (for those of us old enough to remember projectors with transparency sheets) work fine on regular Playmo?
Those tend to be permanent - well, without alcool or something..
That HARD ROCK vest (and every other drawering on that klicky) seen on the xmasy dio 2015 was made with those pens.. sometime in the 90s, I believe. And the guy was bagged and boxed with everyone else..
(link to the page in the dio (http://www.playkingdoms.com/pk2/museum/dios/2015xmasy/2015xmasy2.aspx) - it's the last pic)
Maybe these are more like the dry boards and pens?
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*Without the local VAT!!! So, for Belgium it would be 603,79 euro!!!
:omg: :omg: :omg: :omg: :omg: :omg:
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Well, I now immediately wonder for how much it will be sold as a collectors´item on evilbay...
2500 euro, anyone? Come on, that´s a bargain! :loco:
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Those tend to be permanent - well, without alcool or something..
I think that's what she meant.
Overhead projector pens (ohp) are for writing on transparent slides during a talk. You can wipe the marks off later.
You can of course use permanent marker pens to make transparent slides and that ink doesn't come off.
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Those tend to be permanent - well, without alcool or something..
That HARD ROCK vest (and every other drawering on that klicky) seen on the xmasy dio 2015 was made with those pens.. sometime in the 90s, I believe. And the guy was bagged and boxed with everyone else..
(link to the page in the dio (http://www.playkingdoms.com/pk2/museum/dios/2015xmasy/2015xmasy2.aspx) - it's the last pic)
Maybe these are more like the dry boards and pens?
The pens we used wipe off with water (generally teachers use a damp paper towel), so if we knew whether the included wipes are wet or dry, that should tell us which genre of pen is included. I think wet erase pens would be more suitable for "pro klicky" use because dry erase pens smudge too easily when you touch the writing, so you'd lose your labeling once someone stuck their big thumb on it. I'm betting the klicky plastic is the usual stuff, in white.
I think they should have made the whole set white and included a set of pens in different colors, so people could go to town "customizing" as they see fit. For the price, I'd certainly expect pens in colors other than just black.
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The pens we used wipe off with water (generally teachers use a damp paper towel), so if we knew whether the included wipes are wet or dry, that should tell us which genre of pen is included.
Ah, sorry, I am not familiar with those... The markers I always saw used with those are the "permanent markers"..
I think they should have made the whole set white and included a set of pens in different colors, so people could go to town "customizing" as they see fit. For the price, I'd certainly expect pens in colors other than just black.
Agree. Again.. who thinks of these?
I would LOVE to know how much they sell. And who actually buys it. I mean, if it's crazy RICH collectors (if I had the cash, I'd buy me a couple :P ) or actually "companies" - and the this case, I would LOVE to know WHY too. What for, I mean. ???
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I associate wet erase pens with teachers; I don't think most professions have a use for them normally. I remember making lessons on several transparency sheets, using them for each class (with a damp paper towel to erase the fill-in-the-blank answers), and then washing them to reuse for the next lesson (because there wouldn't be enough for the semester if fresh ones were used each week). Computer projectors are so much easier (when they want to cooperate with your computer, of course). I'm surprised wet erase pens still exist, but I googled and they do, so there must be another use for them.
I would LOVE to know how much they sell. And who actually buys it. I mean, if it's crazy RICH collectors (if I had the cash, I'd buy me a couple :P ) or actually "companies" - and the this case, I would LOVE to know WHY too. What for, I mean. ???
That's a very good question. Given the overall composition of the set (like there's a jester's hat but no shorter hair options for women), I'm not entirely sure that Playmobil knows the answer either. It's less versatile and more hodge-podge.
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Just keep an eye on their website and in one year they probably sell them for the half of the current price. Fingers crossed...
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That's a very good question. Given the overall composition of the set (like there's a jester's hat but no shorter hair options for women), I'm not entirely sure that Playmobil knows the answer either. It's less versatile and more hodge-podge.
Yes... kinda messy, right?
I have NO IDEA what's it for (except parts for us! :P )
Just keep an eye on their website and in one year they probably sell them for the half of the current price. Fingers crossed...
Even half would be too much.
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/magazine/2019/12/23/vikings-pirates-knights-inside-playmobils-plan-reshape-your-workplace/?arc404=true
Lengthy Washington Post article on this, and it's use.
For those of us who baulked at the price, the Lego equivalent is $800.
Side topic - at least they seem to get that adukts are a potential market (strange that they mentioned licencing but not that they have started doing it)
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/magazine/2019/12/23/vikings-pirates-knights-inside-playmobils-plan-reshape-your-workplace/?arc404=true
Lengthy Washington Post article on this, and it's use.
Thanks for posting. After reading that, my opinion stands. It's great, to play with. USEFUL for work? I can't see it. At all. Same as the others. A great excuse to pretend to be doing something useful while in fact playing with playmobil/lego..
I still want those white kids/babies (and adults)
Side topic - at least they seem to get that adukts are a potential market (strange that they mentioned licencing but not that they have started doing it)
I noticed that too.... Considering how playmobil treated the collectors, they probably spoke with someone as disconnected from the "actual bosses" as the pcc seemed to be at times. :'(
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"A corporate trainer, called a certified Lego Serious Play facilitator, brings a pile of Lego into a conference room and guides a team of employees through building exercises meant to spur new ideas"
Wait, so you can get certified in teaching people to play with lego now?
I think the corporate world has run out of ideas.
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I'm trying to pretend I haven't seen any of this 8} storage boxes, plain figures & the "goods carrier" (which reminds me of a vintage usherette tray :heart: ).
The price is daft though! :wall: :o
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There is now an itemized user guide available: https://playmobil.a.bigcontent.io/v1/static/PLAYMOBILpro_User_Guide_WEB (https://playmobil.a.bigcontent.io/v1/static/PLAYMOBILpro_User_Guide_WEB) Thanks to "Coach" at klickywelt for a detailed review. https://klickywelt.de/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=71113 (https://klickywelt.de/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=71113) I too like the storage containers...
Most if not all of of the parts, besides the white klickies, have been used previously in sets. If anyone's fascinated enough to draw up a list of part numbers for me, I'll make a set page for it. Just for curiosity, I could also find out what parts are available from DS (as shown on the official websites, that is), in what country, and for how much. Maybe it's not such a bad price after all.
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Most if not all of of the parts, besides the white klickies, have been used previously in sets. If anyone's fascinated enough
to draw up a list of part numbers for me, I'll make a set page for it. Just for curiosity, I could also find out what parts are available from DS (as shown on the official websites, that is), in what country, and for how much. Maybe it's not such a bad price after all.
Well.. most of the appeal (besides the containers, but I'd need like a couple of hundred, AND space to put them) is the white parts - especially the klickys, and especially the kids/babies... The rest... whatever.
Mind still boggles at whatever actual non-collector use those could have.
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That old-style vacuum cleaner (number 43 on page 8) hasn't been around for donkey's years! There is currently no part number for this, I believe.
It could be useful to identify any parts which are available through DS but which aren't currently in any other sets. If the weather here doesn't improve, I might have time to make a start on a list....
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There is now an itemized user guide available
Luckily, otherwise the top brass would have to ask their kids how to put a hat on a klicky.
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The Lego version made the UK news recently;
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-birmingham-51490117
"A training session in which councillors were asked to make Lego models has been described as a "waste of time"."
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"A training session in which councillors were asked to make Lego models has been described as a "waste of time"."
I am afraid I agree - I mean I suppose play is not REALLY a waste of time, but if they are supposed to be working.. well.
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I am afraid I agree - I mean I suppose play is not REALLY a waste of time, but if they are supposed to be working.. well.
And I guess what makes it worse is that they were spending public money on it
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And I guess what makes it worse is that they were spending public money on it
Right! Could be worse, I suppose...
I would really like to know the sales of these... the playmobil ones, I mean... I really think they are interesting only for collectors (though at that price, MILLIONAIRE collectors only)... or for "consulting" companies.. well.. wating their clients time and money - though in a nice way, right? >:D
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I am no expert in corporate training, but I think sets like this or the Lego version can be used in several ways, especially to develop team working.
For example to help people learn how they work together in teams, Belbin (https://www.belbin.com/about/belbin-team-roles/) proposed nine roles people in teams take on, such as Resource Investigator, Finisher, Shaper, etc. all of which are vital to effective functioning of the team. In a training environment, a group of people could be given a task to complete, which they might model using Playmobil pieces to represent different aspects of the task. The pieces may be used symbolically or literally, but it is the process of doing this task which is important. At the end, the team members each reflect on the roles they have adopted during the task and consider how they could work even more effectively by strengthening existing roles or taking on new ones, perhaps ones which weren't exhibited during the task. This experiential learning can be very powerful and since it takes place in a safe environment with a simulated task, possibilities can be explored without financial risk, for example. Team members can even challenge their boss in such a situation.
Enlightened organisations spend money on professional development, team development, training, etc. and it is unlikely they would do this without a perceived benefit to their operations. With Playmobil Pro, Geobra are offering trainers a tool which they can deploy with imagination and creativity to achieve training outcomes and to help participants to develop their understanding and insight into their team's or organisation's work. Or even to create a new approach.
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We did a training exercise at my work using LEGO. It's pretty common when talking about manufacturing principles to do exercises to demonstrate work flows and production management techniques. I don't think the price is worth it for just getting the white klickies. You could go buy some random add-ons and come up with something that work just as well.
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Enlightened organisations spend money on professional development, team development, training, etc. and it is unlikely they would do this without a perceived benefit to their operations.
I know, so I am probably wrong here - but I still see a waste of time. In this case, a very PLEASANT waste of time >:D
You could go buy some random add-ons and come up with something that work just as well.
Well. Yes. Waste of money too, if we look at it that way (especially for not collectors).
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I am afraid I agree - I mean I suppose play is not REALLY a waste of time, but if they are supposed to be working.. well.
Council workers are there to represent the voters. They're often from competing political philosophies so team building is a waste of time. If they're playing with toys to make up for lack of play at kindergarten then perhaps they shouldn't be in government. Most of them are paid more than they're worth to begin with.
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I used the pictures of Playmobil pro contents and PlaymoDB to try to put a part number to each component. Some components consist of more than one part (e.g. “binoculars” has two parts, the binoculars and the strap), although several are ‘multi piece’ parts (e.g. bicycle, complete).
I was able to list the part numbers for 251 of the 284 parts which make up the 236 components of Playmobil pro shown in the User Guide pictures.
1 (part number 30676633, a robot) is not in PlaymoDB but I found the part number in a pdf for set 9487
I was unable to find part numbers for 33 parts:
5 components, all in box 4, are not toy pieces (diorama stands, pen wipes, sticky note stands, non-permanent pens, coloured tapes).
11 parts (+3 more I was not certain about) are similar to parts in PlaymoDB, but in a different colour
2 parts have only pnnnn numbers in the DB
3 parts have several possible part numbers (With the 2 Captain’s hats the printing is not visible, so precise identification is not possible; for the tires, I could not see enough detail to even make a guess)
4 parts look similar to existing parts but differ slightly (set of tools with one missing, set of banknotes with 1 extra, one rabbit from a set of 3 but colour also different, set of rose blossoms might include 2 or 3 shapes of the same colour bloom)
2 (a hat and a crown) were ‘best guesses’ but probably need checking
2 parts had no counterpart in PlaymoDB; both are stickers, so there may be a sticker sheet supplied with Playmobil pro
1 part (king’s crown) may be gold or shiny gold
The User Guide states there are 481 pieces, but I found 434. I didn’t count the parts of the storage unit.
Full results on a spreadsheet here (https://www.dropbox.com/s/73tx6iehp9xl6ms/Playmobil%20Pro.xlsx?dl=0)
On the second tab of the spreadsheet are the 33 items for which I could not find part numbers
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And then there's the starter set:
https://playmobil.a.bigcontent.io/v1/static/PLAYMOBILpro_StarterKit_User_Guide_WEB
with some parts the same as the Basic set and some different....
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Who still remembers Playmobil Pro?! :lol:
Well they have added a 'gift set' for you to give to participants. A snip at 7.99 Euros - though the catch is you have to buy in bundles of 8.
https://pro.playmobil.com/shop/welcome-set/
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Who still remembers Playmobil Pro?! :lol:
Well they have added a 'gift set' for you to give to participants. A snip at 7.99 Euros - though the catch is you have to buy in bundles of 8.
https://pro.playmobil.com/shop/welcome-set/
And only ship to a couple of countries (I READ, not sure), and only to companies.
I STILL don't get the use of this (except for us, of course ::) )... If there was a group purchase, I'd be interested (stupid, I know) :-[
A shame it's not the kids... cause those klickys I have (or can make)..
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It’s a pretty elaborate set from what I saw
(https://i.postimg.cc/k4rKvwGx/BB4-E723-C-9-B2-A-4859-97-EE-EABD6-E33-C1-B1.png) (https://postimg.cc/67089rd3)greenshot download (https://postimages.org/app)
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I interpret it as a basic tool to analyze how your team accessorizes an all white klicky
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Those all white klickys would be useful for making some customs of the creepy all white robots from HBO's Westworld.
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I interpret it as a basic tool to analyze how your team accessorizes an all white klicky
Right! Perfect time waster (regarding work)....
No idea. ::)
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I signed up for a training on Playmobil Pro, and have to say it was one of the worst experiences I've had. Obviously, it was going to be a commercial; but they didn't bring out the figures or discuss how you would use them. If it is a matter of grabbing a figure and placing a crown on their head to represent the "leader", 1) say that, and 2) I will probably have more fun customizing figures to look like my coworkers. :P
I hope it works for somebody. ;)
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I signed up for a training on Playmobil Pro, and have to say it was one of the worst experiences I've had.
I can believe that...
Me, I just wanted the white klickys...
The rest.. a total mystery to me. ??? ::)
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I signed up for a training on Playmobil Pro, and have to say it was one of the worst experiences I've had. Obviously, it was going to be a commercial; but they didn't bring out the figures or discuss how you would use them. If it is a matter of grabbing a figure and placing a crown on their head to represent the "leader", 1) say that, and 2) I will probably have more fun customizing figures to look like my coworkers. :P
I hope it works for somebody. ;)
How was the sales pitch structured then?