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General => Report & Review => Topic started by: Rasputin on November 05, 2008, 18:26:03
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Well i was starting to get a little worried with the pace of the new Target releases and was contemplating taking Gepetto's kind offer to open up a supply line . I headed to our local target to check on the mentioned sale last night and to my surprise " The Roman Blisters have invaded California" :confetti: I have been waiting for them and now i can expand the troops @ one hell of a brgain.
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The Centurion is quite a handsome feller . With his golden breast armor down to his green pin stried attire he is very welcome in the collection . Seeing as i plan on getting more of these packs i will have to figure out a way to not have an overly ranked army . I will plan on trying to turn this klickie into either a statue or civilian, but probably both and other ideas .
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The other Klickie is a very nice soldier . I have never had the green shield and was a bit skeptical of it but now that i have it in hand i can say it fits nicely in with the troops .
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Over all at $2.49 & with the amount of accessories i can not find reason for complaint . I know this is just the older specials ( 4632 & 4560 ) but they are very well designed figures . Even thought i may have preferred Playmobil to make some new Klickies i was not wanting to be gouged on Ebay for the older version especially at the quantity i would want .
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Well I am glad the Romans finally arrived, and at such an oppourtune time ($2.49)!!
Your photos are excellent Rasputin, thank you.
Gepetto
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I am the one who should be thanking you . Thank you :wow: for offering to get these sets to people who did not have immediate access to them & for the sale info .
The pictures were outside under out new covered porch . This amount of light is even in the middle of rain storms so i was able to use no flash ( one accidental ) and still have good lighting .
The sale you mentioned was very useful . I am planing on going back and getting rain checks on the new dragon set ( reg $19.99 sale $13.99 ) and use the 30% off for my next playmobil target purchases ;)
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Great review, Rasputin, Thanks.
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I only have one Roman ship, but I am using the green shielded Romans as Roman Marines.
-- Donmobil
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Notice on the red-sleeved Roman's chest the V-shaped impression / cut / canal / gash across the chest paint (visible in Ras's picture).
All my Romans have this same production scar--whether the ones that came from Gepetto or the recent ones I got at the local Target.
-Tim
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yes i now see that ??? i will take a close up to show it better .
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Here is a picture with out obstructions . Maybe those Romans just can not leave the Egyptians alone in the factory at night ;)
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or is it the flow of plastic during the casting process?
I've been pondering about that as well.
Bogro
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That's not only "visible" at the romans but also on other figures. I recognized this before (if I remember correctly at female bodies) when polishing the figure for removing the imprints with steel polisher. The liquid and the loosen color "accumulates" in this v-shaped scar so it becomes more visible in contrast to the polished shiny, color-free surface. I also assume it's from production (maybe the connecting edge of two mould-pieces).
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or is it the flow of plastic during the casting process?
I've been pondering about that as well.
Bogro
That's it exactly. You'll see similar flow-marks on silver helmets, take a look at the back of the standard Roman Legionary helmet.
My wife has studied fluid mechanics, which makes me an instant expert on the subject too ;)
The liquid plastic is cooling rapidly as it is squirted into the mould. The silvery material seems to exhibit it most, but it can be seen elsewhere as Jo noted. If they kept the mould hot as the plastic was squirted in it might diminish these lines, but it'd complicate and slow down the production process immensely.
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Maybe you can turn the centurions into the empirial guard or something like that?
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Maybe you can turn the centurions into the empirial guard or something like that?
You tread dangerous ground for the unwary, my friend.
Peruse previous threads for a thorough wrangling on the uniform and dress of the praetorians.
-Tim
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I, too, bought multiple blister packs of this. I have an overabundance of centurions, but I wanted the soldiers with the green shields.
One thing I don't particularly care for about the green shielded soldiers is that the shields are made to be held by the right hand only which forces the weapon hand to be the left. Now, I'm no expert in ancient Roman history, but it seems to me that the dominant hand should be the one that holds the weapon and since most people are right-handed, I think that Playmobil erred in this.
But what do I know? Maybe the Roman army gave all their lefties green shields. ???
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I, too, bought multiple blister packs of this. I have an overabundance of centurions, but I wanted the soldiers with the green shields.
One thing I don't particularly care for about the green shielded soldiers is that the shields are made to be held by the right hand only which forces the weapon hand to be the left. Now, I'm no expert in ancient Roman history, but it seems to me that the dominant hand should be the one that holds the weapon and since most people are right-handed, I think that Playmobil erred in this.
But what do I know? Maybe the Roman army gave all their lefties green shields. ???
Seems to me this has come up before :toot: :toot:! You should check the posts regarding Martin's legions, he put his Centurians to good use as archers which was brillant!
Gepetto
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I, too, bought multiple blister packs of this. I have an overabundance of centurions, but I wanted the soldiers with the green shields.
One thing I don't particularly care for about the green shielded soldiers is that the shields are made to be held by the right hand only which forces the weapon hand to be the left. Now, I'm no expert in ancient Roman history, but it seems to me that the dominant hand should be the one that holds the weapon and since most people are right-handed, I think that Playmobil erred in this.
But what do I know? Maybe the Roman army gave all their lefties green shields. ???
As Gepetto says, we've had quite a discussion over this shield and it's apparent wrong-handedness.
My conclusion is that the original shield (I think it first appeared in Set 3651, thanks Playmodb) was designed as a Pavise or wall shield, the sort of static shield a crossbowman would carry to within bow range of a castle walls during a siege, then shelter behind while preparing his shot, and expose his head & shoulders over the top of while shooting.
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The klicky should carry the pavise within crossbow range of the target, put it down and shield behind it, while getting his bowshot ready. A Pavise was large and heavy, so it is reasonable that the handhold was on the dominant side.
For this purpose it's ideal, but even the person setting up the packshot was confused by the handhold, and put the shield in the klicky's right hand and crossbow awkwardly in his left, maybe because the figure designer had give the klicky an eyepatch. It's been causing confusion ever since.
The pavise shield is still used correctly for crossbowmen, the most recent use in set 4808 of the Wolf Knight collection, though this klicky has a short bow (oops Playmobil).
In the case of this blister pack, originally Specials 4560 & 4632, Playmobil were really just testing the water for the potential interest in a Roman theme and nothing was quite right, they were just using existing pieces to create something like a legionary. This shield was the closest they had to the classic Roman shield.
Here's the use I put these blister figures to:
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Very creative. I like it.
Sorry for bringing up a subject that was already discussed. How do I search for topics that have been discussed before? It's a bit hard for newbies like myself to go through everything that has been posted to find a previous discussion of a topic. I've tried using the search engine, but have not been successful. Is there a secret to using the search engine? ???
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Never mind. I figured it out. I was using it incorrectly before. Silly me. :-[
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Very creative. I like it.
Sorry for bringing up a subject that was already discussed. How do I search for topics that have been discussed before? It's a bit hard for newbies like myself to go through everything that has been posted to find a previous discussion of a topic. I've tried using the search engine, but have not been successful. Is there a secret to using the search engine? ???
Not a problem KM, we can't expect everyone to search before posting anything (I never do) - it was a good question, and we like re-airing our knowledge! Some people find it odd when an old thread is suddenly resurrected months or years later.