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General => Brainstorming For Playmobil => Topic started by: Rasputin on July 25, 2022, 17:23:07

Title: UK narrow boat AKA river boat
Post by: Rasputin on July 25, 2022, 17:23:07
Now that we got the Austin mini, the Bobby helmet , perhaps someday a double decker bus …I’d love to see a river boat also known as a narrow boat

Title: Re: UK narrow boat AKA river boat
Post by: Oliver on July 25, 2022, 20:02:54
I never knew narrow boats were a British thing!

Sylvanian Families did one back in the 90s. I think this would be a great set for Playmobil to make
Title: Re: UK narrow boat AKA river boat
Post by: klickyklack on July 26, 2022, 03:14:49
Great idea!  Traditional style?  I'm from an area where the Trent & Mersey canal covers, so we get a lot of them around here. The Sylvanian one is lovely!
Title: Re: UK narrow boat AKA river boat
Post by: Rasputin on July 26, 2022, 14:19:18
I did not know or ever see the one from Callico Critters

Very nice , wow !  on the prices

https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_nkw=calico+critters+canal+boat&_trksid=p2380057.m4084.l1313
Title: Re: UK narrow boat AKA river boat
Post by: klickyklack on July 26, 2022, 14:54:53
They have new ones for a lot less than silly eBay prices on the UK site: River Canal Boat (https://sylvanianfamilies.co.uk/products/river-canal-boat?gclid=EAIaIQobChMI17-ukeeW-QIVgdPtCh0beQJbEAAYASAAEgLh4PD_BwE)
Title: Re: UK narrow boat AKA river boat
Post by: playmofire on August 03, 2022, 17:57:24
Narrow boats are canal boats not river boats, and not all the boats used on canals are narrow boats.
Title: Re: UK narrow boat AKA river boat
Post by: Rasputin on August 04, 2022, 02:18:07
Narrow boats are canal boats not river boats, and not all the boats used on canals are narrow boats.

Not all firemen are men. Some are females . Not all females were born male. “Fire people” sounds like a gaggle of arsonists . “Water people” is more accurate
Title: Re: UK narrow boat AKA river boat
Post by: Klickteryx on August 04, 2022, 06:14:20
Water people sounds like people who live in the water, not on boats. They might even be merpeople.
Title: Re: UK narrow boat AKA river boat
Post by: playmofire on August 04, 2022, 09:13:38
Not all firemen are men. Some are females . Not all females were born male. “Fire people” sounds like a gaggle of arsonists . “Water people” is more accurate

I'm not sure of the relevance of this post, Ras, but here's more information on narrow boats:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Narrowboat
Title: Re: UK narrow boat AKA river boat
Post by: Rasputin on August 04, 2022, 16:44:20

“A riverboat is a watercraft designed for inland navigation on lakes, rivers, and artificial waterways”

So a “narrowboat” is a specific type of “riverboat”

Title: Re: UK narrow boat AKA river boat
Post by: playmofire on August 05, 2022, 15:21:17
“A riverboat is a watercraft designed for inland navigation on lakes, rivers, and artificial waterways”

So a “narrowboat” is a specific type of “riverboat”

Merriam-Webster - Definition of riverboat: a boat for use on a river

Cambridge English Dictionary - riverboat: a large passenger boat that travels up and down a river

Collins English Dictionary - A riverboat is a large boat that carries passengers along a river

and I could go on, but won't, other than to say that a narrowboat is specifically designed for use on a canal, and a narrow canal at that.

Only Wikipedia appears to have the very general definition you quote, Ras.

Title: Re: UK narrow boat AKA river boat
Post by: GrahamB on August 06, 2022, 17:12:01
Having owned a real narrowboat until quite recently, I would agree with playmofire that, at least in a British context, the term applies to boats on the canal system, some of which uses rivers to link canals, confusingly. For example, if you want to go from Bristol to Birmingham, one route is to travel down the River Avon, up the River Severn, along the Gloucester-Sharpness Ship canal to Gloucester, onto the River Severn again, up to Tewkesbury, then up the River Avon (a different one) to rejoin the canal system near Stratford. Or from Tewesbury, you can carry on up the River Severn to Stourport and get onto the canal system there. The rivers are often too dangerous to take a flat-bottomed narrow boat on, e.g. during the winter floods.

Narrowboats are sometimes called canal barges and (erroneously, unless you are a Viking) longboats. Some canals can accommodate wide-beam boats which aren't very narrow at all. Just to add to the confusion!
Title: Re: UK narrow boat AKA river boat
Post by: playmofire on August 07, 2022, 08:39:35
Yes, the canal system in the UK is confusing, especially when you throw in the Manchester Ship Canal which can take ocean going vessels.  The narrow boat canals were built that way with just the locks being two boats wide (or at least having a "parking" area either side for when a boat was in the lock) for cheapness, especially if the route was involved tunnels or cuttings.

A few years ago, I took Diane on a weekend away for a cruise and Sunday lunch on a steam train and even though the cruise was down the Manchester Ship Canal from Salford to Liverpool and back rather than a more exotic location and the Sunday lunch was on the East Lancashire Railway rather than, say, the Orient Express, it was a grand weekend.  The quantity and quality of wild life on and alongside the Ship Canal was surprising (six heronries, for example) as was the "industrial" scenery (the Ship Canal is crossed at one point by a swing bridge which itself carries a canal!), but we had the additional interest of watching an ocean going vessel being manoeuvred through the last lock on the canal into the River Mersey by a small tug and with about 30cm clearance either side.

The East Lancashire Railway is very scenic and there is an excellent transport museum opposite the Bury station, which is itself an Art Deco gem inside the booking hall.
Title: Re: UK narrow boat AKA river boat
Post by: GrahamB on August 09, 2022, 18:32:18
You definitely get the best British industrial heritage, 'Up North.' Mind you, "Murder on the East Lancashire Railway" was not a title which grabbed Agatha Christie's imagination, was it?
Title: Re: UK narrow boat AKA river boat
Post by: Rasputin on August 18, 2022, 17:22:58
Next your going to split c hairs about “paddle boats”  ::)
Title: Re: UK narrow boat AKA river boat
Post by: playmofire on August 18, 2022, 17:36:36
Next your going to split c hairs about “paddle boats”  ::)

A complete misclassification is hardly a split hair, Ras.  It's not far short of saying Lego and Playmobil are the same thing because they are made of plastic.
Title: Re: UK narrow boat AKA river boat
Post by: Rasputin on August 25, 2022, 20:50:24
You see this is where your generation gets it all wrong these days

A river boat can identify as a steam ship and a narrow boat can identify as an airplane all they, them want

So it’s actually you who didn’t take the time to ask what they, them wanted to be identified as

Title: Re: UK narrow boat AKA river boat
Post by: Rasputin on August 25, 2022, 20:51:44
And if my klickies wanted to identify as mini-figs, who am I to say otherwise
Title: Re: UK narrow boat AKA river boat
Post by: klickyklack on August 25, 2022, 21:23:37
And if my klickies wanted to identify as mini-figs, who am I to say otherwise

& if they could, no matter how they self ID'd, they would still BE a klicky.   ::)
Title: Re: UK narrow boat AKA river boat
Post by: playmovictorian on August 26, 2022, 06:31:32
Thank you so much dear Graham for sharing the interesting background story of UK narrow boats  :wave:
Title: Re: UK narrow boat AKA river boat
Post by: playmofire on August 26, 2022, 08:46:06
I think posts 16 to 18 inclusive are going off topic and stepping into issues and controversies outside Playmobil.
Title: Re: UK narrow boat AKA river boat
Post by: Oliver on August 26, 2022, 23:36:20
Let's be honest, this whole thread is a mess.
Title: Re: UK narrow boat AKA river boat
Post by: Rasputin on August 27, 2022, 00:36:02
We’ll currently even if Geobra made a boat they’re probable make it all a fantasy mess


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Just look at the Gypsy wagon with cannons

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Title: Re: UK narrow boat AKA river boat
Post by: Rasputin on August 27, 2022, 00:39:26
It’s a Vardo ….no it’s a Romani wagon….no it’s a horse drawn wagon….no it a homeless person …..no it’s a unhoused human…..no it’s a shelter….. ::)