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General => Report & Review => Topic started by: Baron Marshall on July 27, 2011, 23:59:28

Title: 5950 Pirate Ship
Post by: Baron Marshall on July 27, 2011, 23:59:28
Ok well here goes nothing... right off the bat the colors are... interesting... but they do grow on you a bit as you put it together...

The ship itself is slightly bigger than a schooner and maybe a teeny bit smaller than the classic pirate ship... There is no storage space, just and indentation for a locking treasure chest.
Title: Re: 5950 Pirate Ship
Post by: Baron Marshall on July 28, 2011, 00:04:37
There is a spot with a compass sticker on it just in front of the wheel... great spot for an additional mast if you like.

The sails are in my wife's opinion a starched broadcloth, but rather thin. Not as sturdy as a thick interfacing would be.

One of my cross mast pieces was not fully formed but not as bad as a bridge building piece I got once... a little hot glue and we could proceed. I may or may not call about it, haven't decided yet.

The wheel itself is odd, and the hardest part to put on the ship. I almost broke it because I didn't think it was on yet, but it actually went on fairly easily, just didn't feel like that should be it.
Title: Re: 5950 Pirate Ship
Post by: Baron Marshall on July 28, 2011, 00:07:46
Here is the crew, which would actually look great if we hadn't seen most of them exactly this way several times before. But they do come with a fair number of accessories, wristbands, weapons, etc.

The fully assembled ship.

One of the nicer features are the standing posts on the sides of the ship, for action scenes no doubt!
Title: Re: 5950 Pirate Ship
Post by: Baron Marshall on July 28, 2011, 00:09:24
Another shot of the whole ship.

The IMO hideous sticker on the back and also the side... even though it isn't as bad as that back... yuck!
Title: Re: 5950 Pirate Ship
Post by: Baron Marshall on July 28, 2011, 00:13:45
Overall impressions, it is probably worth the $30 US it cost... but unless you love the colors, pirates, or plan to turn it into a medieval merchant ship or something, then you probably won't be missing out on a whole lot if you don't catch this one.

And it should be the same as the new British ship for next year too, so better colors are coming... eventually. :)

Hope that wasn't too biased. I actually do like the ship, but I bought it mostly to tear it to pieces  ;D

A few minor points, the long black coat is AWESOME!!!... and the serpent deal on the front is interesting.
Title: Re: 5950 Pirate Ship
Post by: PrimusPilus on July 28, 2011, 01:15:34
Thirty bucks I would say is a pretty good price for that.
Minus the skull stickers, of course (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v321/luwerner/gif/throwup.gif).
Title: Re: 5950 Pirate Ship
Post by: cachalote on July 28, 2011, 02:26:45
:thanks: thanks for the review baron marshall.
 :hmm: this is a very strange set - almost frightening.
 :'( the pre-assembled concept, its color scheme, the stickers - it looks so fischer-price-y.
in the early pirate ships the figures seemed to be less developed than the ship itself.
now we have what it seems like a "plain" ship and the figures look so more "complex" when compared.
it seems that both - ship and figures - don't belong to the same set, to the same world, to the same manufacturer.
Title: Re: 5950 Pirate Ship
Post by: Wolf Knight on July 28, 2011, 07:06:01
Thanks for the great review and pics Baron!!

its a nice set, once you remove the stickers and the sail that is... but I'd buy it with no second thought...
Title: Re: 5950 Pirate Ship
Post by: Hadoque on July 28, 2011, 08:12:38
Thanks for the review!

I think I'm not gonna try to get this one, perhaps it may show up in the future in a better layout & colours...

Btw, the new English ship 5140 (release Germany & Benelux next month, rest of the world in 2012) is based on the dinghy. It just received an upperdeck, so it is smaller then this one.
Title: Re: 5950 Pirate Ship
Post by: Baron Marshall on July 28, 2011, 09:28:00
That's too bad about the 5140... now that I take a closer look... but im sure they'll use this one again. Its not bad... just not the best execution.
Title: Re: 5950 Pirate Ship
Post by: cachalote on July 28, 2011, 10:39:02
Btw, the new English ship 5140 (release Germany & Benelux next month, rest of the world in 2012) is based on the dinghy. It just received an upperdeck, so it is smaller then this one.
:hmm: are you sure of this hadoque?
 :lens: this american 5950 maxi-dinghy looks just like the new 5140.
 :yup: if this is so the differences from the 4444-based dinghy aren't only the higher topsides and a longer bowsprit.
 ;) it seems someone up-scaled the 4444 in geobra's CAD/CAM program.
 :'( maybe this means the end of the 3860-based corsair ships.

all of the above can be referenced here - http://www.playmofriends.com/forum/index.php?topic=4639.0
Title: Re: 5950 Pirate Ship
Post by: Scott on July 28, 2011, 13:00:48
Thanks for the review.

I don't like the ship one bit. Looks like a toy. I know playmobil is a toy but the older ships were much more real looking.
Title: Re: 5950 Pirate Ship
Post by: Dove on July 28, 2011, 19:14:11
Thanks for the review.

Well, let's hope they produce more versions of this one so we can get a nicer version... event if many of us, me included, will buy this one anyway - a collector is a collector !


 :'( maybe this means the end of the 3860-based corsair ships.


Maybe, maybe not. After all, untill recently the mold of the original pirate brig was still in use... even if it was for fisher-pricy versions !
Title: Re: 5950 Pirate Ship
Post by: bonniebeth on July 29, 2011, 03:49:13
Thanks for the review. it is a bit toy-ish, I'm afraid, but at least those horrid prints all over it are just stickers and can be left off! That's good to know.
Title: Re: 5950 Pirate Ship
Post by: Baron Marshall on July 29, 2011, 09:28:02
Unfortunately the sticker will have to be removed... as they are pre-applied for "convenience"... total assembly time was about 5 minutes for the ship... ten if you are taking your time maybe...
Title: Re: 5950 Pirate Ship
Post by: Giorginetto on July 29, 2011, 10:13:18
Total rubbish, bad colours, awful sails, stickers are not playmobil standards . Unfortunatelly playmobil quality and aesthetics are on a downslope if you ask me and i cant see this changing easily with the inflated oil prices that are here to stay and even get worse for sure . Very nice and detailed review , i wont be buying this ship prefer some of the older ones !!!!
Title: Re: 5950 Pirate Ship
Post by: PrimusPilus on July 29, 2011, 12:36:27
it is a bit toy-ish, I'm afraid, but at least those horrid prints all over it are just stickers and can be left off!

Why? Because of the colors?
Title: Re: 5950 Pirate Ship
Post by: bonniebeth on July 29, 2011, 21:01:02
I just think they're ugly, kind of creepy-looking. Of course, some people may like them, but I'm glad to see I could leave them off. ;D
Title: Re: 5950 Pirate Ship
Post by: Justindo on August 04, 2011, 09:22:49
Thanks for the review Baron Marshall.

I just got around to opening my set today and I must admit that this is my least favorite Playmobil ship.  It was easy to assemble, but it took a long time to take the hideous stickers off.  I noticed that the set is made in China, but the quality of all the items seems fine, except the sails are quite thin.  I wonder if they simply applied the stickers and packaged it there.
Title: Re: 5950 Pirate Ship
Post by: Baron Marshall on August 04, 2011, 09:30:07
I wonder if they simply applied the stickers and packaged it there.

That is the conclusion that I have come too, also possibly put the screws in... I definitely won't think twice about customizing this one though... the older ones I don't touch.. just because they are awesome... but the new ones are in for a rough time when I get around to it  >:D
Title: Re: 5950 Pirate Ship
Post by: Wesley Myers on August 07, 2011, 15:13:15
That is the conclusion that I have come too, also possibly put the screws in... I definitely won't think twice about customizing this one though... the older ones I don't touch.. just because they are awesome... but the new ones are in for a rough time when I get around to it  >:D

I doubt they would produce these in Europe and then sort the parts out for shipping to China and then pay all the shipping charges, duties for non-Chinese made goods (I would imagine that gov't fee to protect Chinese industry alone would be enough to deter anyone from doing this!), then the labour for having to unpack everything and then resort it and then have to repack it for sale.  I would bet the whole thing is made there.  I could be wrong though.

How American companies like Harley-Davidson get to claim "made in america" is because they "make" them there, but import a lot of the parts from Japan (forks, some of the brakes) Malaysia, Macau (chrome work because they dont' have the epa regulations), China (the lights) and other places like that.  So it is "made" (put together) there.  Of course, this is a $20,000 plus vehicle and not a small inexepensive (in relation) toy.
Title: Re: 5950 Pirate Ship
Post by: BlackPearl2006 on August 19, 2011, 18:00:17
i can accept ugly stickers and colour combos on the hull because they can always be repainted and customized....but WHY is the standing rigging RED?????  I had the some complaint on the BlackBeard ship with YELLOW rigging!  I tried to repaint the rigging black, but it doesn't take well to the paint, especially when the paint chips immediately once you attempt to have a clicky click his/her hand onto it (to climb).

(Technically, the beige rigging of the 3050 is inaccurate as well, but at least its earth colours matched the rest of the wooden-appearence of the ship's aesthetics.  On real ships, the standing rigging and ratlines were coated with black tar, and should therefore be black.  Older ships may have not used tar, so brown or beige ropes are still somewhat plausible...but RED ones or yellow ones are totally off!)

The only alternative to repainting this red rigging into black (with the propensity to chip off) is to remove it completely and replace with real string (which is a pain to do).

One of the reasons I loved the old ships is because they were more realistic.  Appealing to younger kids with fisherpricey styling---that's what Playmobil 123 was for, wasn't it?  grrrr.
Title: Re: 5950 Pirate Ship
Post by: Wesley Myers on August 21, 2011, 14:56:49
i can accept ugly stickers and colour combos on the hull because they can always be repainted and customized....but WHY is the standing rigging RED?????  I had the some complaint on the BlackBeard ship with YELLOW rigging!  I tried to repaint the rigging black, but it doesn't take well to the paint, especially when the paint chips immediately once you attempt to have a clicky click his/her hand onto it (to climb).

(Technically, the beige rigging of the 3050 is inaccurate as well, but at least its earth colours matched the rest of the wooden-appearence of the ship's aesthetics.  On real ships, the standing rigging and ratlines were coated with black tar, and should therefore be black.  Older ships may have not used tar, so brown or beige ropes are still somewhat plausible...but RED ones or yellow ones are totally off!)

The only alternative to repainting this red rigging into black (with the propensity to chip off) is to remove it completely and replace with real string (which is a pain to do).

One of the reasons I loved the old ships is because they were more realistic.  Appealing to younger kids with fisherpricey styling---that's what Playmobil 123 was for, wasn't it?  grrrr.

It is true about the rigging.  It will only flake off as it is a polyethelene plastic (more flexible) so it will not break as easily (same os the older hair).  I wonder if the older beige riggings will fit?  I doubt they would make a new rigging mould just for this one boat when they have perfectly good ones already available.

Good news is that since they made a whole new mould for this maybe you will see it relased with different colours over the years.  ???
Title: Re: 5950 Pirate Ship
Post by: Gis on August 22, 2011, 12:47:20
I tried to repaint the rigging black, but it doesn't take well to the paint, especially when the paint chips immediately once you attempt to have a clicky click his/her hand onto it (to climb).

Maybe you could try the painting technic explained by Doug in this topic (http://www.playmofriends.com/forum/index.php?topic=7965.0) can get you some results. They might not come out black but they should at least be darker.
Title: Re: 5950 Pirate Ship
Post by: Ds dad on September 08, 2011, 17:34:23
I just saw this ship at TRU and will NOT be buying it. It is absolutely hideous and adds nothing to our collection in it's current form. Maybe with a color change and a change in masthead I'll consider it.
Title: Re: 5950 Pirate Ship
Post by: bonniebeth on September 09, 2011, 02:27:43
Yeah, I am not liking these current pirate sets. They all look alike. ??? Same colors, same odd sails, same few parts on the pirates, the forts all look alike... it's BORING. can't wait for the new pirate stuff to make it here.
Title: Re: 5950 Pirate Ship
Post by: Wolf Knight on September 09, 2011, 07:12:49
If it wasn' for the colours, stickers and sail, I'd like to get this one... of course I could still get it and change the colour... I am good with painting big surfaces  ;D
Title: Re: 5950 Pirate Ship
Post by: tahra on September 09, 2011, 07:41:46
I am good with painting big surfaces  ;D

 ;D  Maybe I should try that...
Title: Re: 5950 Pirate Ship
Post by: Wolf Knight on September 09, 2011, 07:55:33
;D  Maybe I should try that...

just doent try doing details  :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: 5950 Pirate Ship
Post by: Giorginetto on September 09, 2011, 11:50:45
I am good with painting big surfaces  ;D

Now, where have i heard this ( which movie ) before ???  :eh?: :eh?: :eh?:
Title: Re: 5950 Pirate Ship
Post by: BlackPearl2006 on October 04, 2011, 07:08:50
this only cost you US$30?  at my local TRU it's 39.99 plus tax :(
Title: Re: 5950 Pirate Ship
Post by: Baron Marshall on October 04, 2011, 10:30:47
hm reviewing the records... it actually cost $35... so that is a little closer.. I ordered direct from PM.
Title: Re: 5950 Pirate Ship
Post by: Elric on November 01, 2011, 23:13:11
I just picked this up today at 27.99.  The ship is pretty neat but the sails are atrocious!  Mine were all wrinkled up. I really like the swivel guns up front.  Please Geobra, no more china crap! Also let me apply my own stickers!  My 3 year old son could done a better job than this!  Overall it's a great ship if you want to repaint and customize. 
Title: Re: 5950 Pirate Ship
Post by: BlackPearl2006 on November 01, 2011, 23:32:41
even at this steal deal, and considering my already limited shelf space, for some reason I'm gonna pass on this new unique ship.  All the effort to customize it into a decent ship isn't worth the bucks (unless I'm just having fun customizing).  I'm more interested in a multi-masted ship.  I wish playmobil will come out with a trimaster.
Title: Re: 5950 Pirate Ship
Post by: WarriorOfToys on November 02, 2011, 23:54:14
My plan is to buy two of these ships,
Since they are the same size as the 3940 but considerably cheaper,
And then fuse them together to create the favored trimaster.
Title: Re: 5950 Pirate Ship
Post by: Hadoque on November 03, 2011, 04:40:20
My plan is to buy two of these ships,
Since they are the same size as the 3940 but considerably cheaper,
And then fuse them together to create the favored trimaster.


I think you're confusing the US-exclusive 5950 with the 5135  ;)
Title: Re: 5950 Pirate Ship
Post by: WarriorOfToys on November 03, 2011, 16:43:14
Oops, you are quite right... :P
I still want to buy one of these ships... but not to make a trimaster. ::)