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Title: Early 2022 catalogue preview
Post by: Janilew on October 22, 2021, 20:07:17
Guess who got a hold of the early 2022 catalogue? (Man those guys work fast!  8} )
http://amclicks.org/foro/novedades-playmobil/novedades-alemania-enero-julio-2022/ (http://amclicks.org/foro/novedades-playmobil/novedades-alemania-enero-julio-2022/)

And Oliver was right!:
Even if Series 4 never sees the light of day (rather than just being delayed) - surely the Caravan will see the light of day at some point? I can't see them never using the mould in some form. We just have to hope it doesn't come in the usual dizzying array of pinks and golds.

The Everdreamerz caravan WAS repurposed...and it's not pink!  :woohoo:
Title: Re: Early 2022 catalogue preview
Post by: Oliver on October 23, 2021, 12:16:26
I think the same leaked pictures were discussed here;

https://www.playmofriends.com/forum/index.php?topic=17527.0

As for the Caravan - I think the Novelmore one is a different mould, but it's a long time since I saw the Everdreamerz one to compare it to! Either way it is my favourite new item of the lot!
Title: Re: Early 2022 catalogue preview
Post by: collectobart on October 23, 2021, 15:09:39
Indeed, the Novelmore caravan is a different design all together, and originally was planned to be part of the current 2021 wave of Violet Vale sets. It was later postponed till 2022 to give the Everdreamerz one a breather. And then that one didn't even make it to the market.
Title: Re: Early 2022 catalogue preview
Post by: Speedyben on October 23, 2021, 16:31:05
Indeed, the Novelmore caravan is a different design all together, and originally was planned to be part of the current 2021 wave of Violet Vale sets. It was later postponed till 2022 to give the Everdreamerz one a breather. And then that one didn't even make it to the market.

Hi Collectobart, do you know if after that set there will be more Violet Vale or Sal'ahari Sands sets? Or will they switch to Green Grove?
Title: Re: Early 2022 catalogue preview
Post by: Janilew on October 23, 2021, 16:54:11
I think the same leaked pictures were discussed here;

https://www.playmofriends.com/forum/index.php?topic=17527.0

As for the Caravan - I think the Novelmore one is a different mould, but it's a long time since I saw the Everdreamerz one to compare it to! Either way it is my favourite new item of the lot!
WHOOPS  :doh:

Sorry.... :-[
Title: Re: Early 2022 catalogue preview
Post by: collectobart on October 23, 2021, 18:18:07
Hi Collectobart, do you know if after that set there will be more Violet Vale or Sal'ahari Sands sets? Or will they switch to Green Grove?

Honestly, your guess is as good as mine as it's almost a year now since i left the company. The order in which the new territories were supposed to be introduced was pretty fixed - for years - until new management wanted to put its spin on everything and it started to change from day to day. eg. Sal'ahari Sands would originally have been the last of the 6 factions to arise.

The only pattern i suspect that still upholds is that the next big faction will be teased ahead: eg. Timithor was in wave one as a foreshadowing of the Violet Vale. Now you have the small Sal'ahari Sands temple probably pointing to a bigger Sal'Ahari Sands release in 2022... and so on.
Title: Re: Early 2022 catalogue preview
Post by: Tiermann on October 23, 2021, 18:24:26
Well I am glad they brought Sal'Ahari Sands forward as it's one of the most interesting to me along with Violet Vale. The company's ability to follow through on ideas isn't very good these days. Too much turmoil at the top. Hopefully they will release a mix of the last two groups next year so we can at least see all of them before the theme gets dropped like Everdreamerz.
Title: Re: Early 2022 catalogue preview
Post by: collectobart on October 23, 2021, 18:39:58
Well I am glad they brought Sal'Ahari Sands forward as it's one of the most interesting to me along with Violet Vale.

well, Sal'Ahari Sands was brought forward in great haste cause the top didn't believe in Violet Vale... Which happens if your sales numbers go down but you are aloof to the actual reasons why...
Title: Re: Early 2022 catalogue preview
Post by: Tiermann on October 23, 2021, 18:46:26
That's too bad, Violet Vale rocks - it would have been even better combined with Everdreamerz 4. They would have had great synergy. I got some Violet Vale figures off eBay and have made up about a dozen custom wizards from them I will be posting here soon.
Title: Re: Early 2022 catalogue preview
Post by: playmofire on October 23, 2021, 18:51:50
Suddenly to me Playmobil is an entirely unknown language.
Title: Re: Early 2022 catalogue preview
Post by: StJohn on October 23, 2021, 19:03:24
Nice to hear from Bart here. Violet Vale is indeed wonderful. :love: I love it so much that I actually bought a big set from the current line at the full price, being so inspired by Raven (https://www.playmofriends.com/forum/index.php?topic=17518.0). This is quite exceptional for me. :-[
Title: Re: Early 2022 catalogue preview
Post by: Klickteryx on October 23, 2021, 21:36:50
71004 Big tractor with accessories. The tires of the tractor on the box art are facing random directions. You don't need to be familiar with tractors to know the tread should all go the same way.

70903, nice carriage, it seems to be based on the chicken cart and looking forward to the Everdreamerz version eventually being released.
Title: Re: Early 2022 catalogue preview
Post by: Hadoque on October 24, 2021, 20:07:50
I see 'Tweety' has entered the world of Playmobil(-12345678) ....  8}
Btw, what is "Violate Vale" ?
Title: Re: Early 2022 catalogue preview
Post by: StJohn on October 24, 2021, 21:29:34
Btw, what is "Violate Vale" ?

These (https://www.playmobil.de/suchergebnis?q=violet%20vale/) sets.
Title: Re: Early 2022 catalogue preview
Post by: Klickteryx on October 25, 2021, 05:12:46
These (https://www.playmobil.de/suchergebnis?q=violet%20vale/) sets.
That's Violet Vale, that's not what Hadoque asked about. ;)
Title: Re: Early 2022 catalogue preview
Post by: Rasputin on October 25, 2021, 10:33:38
71004 Big tractor with accessories. The tires of the tractor on the box art are facing random directions. You don't need to be familiar with tractors to know the tread should all go the same way.

That’s for traction no matter which direction your going and also when you need traction it helps only one tire to grab…..causing the machine to turn automatically  :P
Title: Re: Early 2022 catalogue preview
Post by: Klickteryx on October 27, 2021, 10:25:02
That’s for traction no matter which direction your going and also when you need traction it helps only one tire to grab…..causing the machine to turn automatically  :P
This is how I imagine the forklifts are driven in Zirndorf.
Title: Re: Early 2022 catalogue preview
Post by: tahra on October 27, 2021, 12:19:30
This is how I imagine the forklifts are driven in Zirndorf.

:lmao:

...

... wait.

It's really not funny, considering playmobil's curret situation, is it?  :-\
Title: Re: Early 2022 catalogue preview
Post by: playmofire on October 27, 2021, 12:56:54
These (https://www.playmobil.de/suchergebnis?q=violet%20vale/) sets.

What Hadoque wanted to know (and I do too) is what the series is based on - a book, a comic strip, a film, a TV series?   What?
Title: Re: Early 2022 catalogue preview
Post by: tahra on October 27, 2021, 13:22:52
What Hadoque wanted to know (and I do too) is what the series is based on - a book, a comic strip, a film, a TV series?   What?

I believe those are a part of novelmore (AGH, the name!) - it's playmobil's own story... afaik.
Title: Re: Early 2022 catalogue preview
Post by: StJohn on October 27, 2021, 13:54:58
What?

It's a theme, or a subtheme if you like: Knights with a magic component. Invented by the creators, no doubt inspired by popular culture. Comics, videos, etc., are spinoffs.

Nobody asks what 3666 and its associated products are "based on" – they are knight-themed toys, obviously. Why then the bewilderment with regard to Violet Vale?
Title: Re: Early 2022 catalogue preview
Post by: Rasputin on October 27, 2021, 15:18:59
3666 is based somewhat on reality

These other sets seem to be based on some random persons imagination with a splash of color for good measure

Geobra was world renowned for life emulating play. The fantasy was its own minor theme . Now fantasy has infected the whole brand.

Can’t wait for Fantasy Police and construction . So many possibilities for the pill poppin designers
Title: Re: Early 2022 catalogue preview
Post by: StJohn on October 28, 2021, 00:56:56
3666 is based somewhat on reality

I would like to emphasise your /somewhat/: the classic '90s Playmobil Castle line offers a highly romantic view of medieval life. It's lovely, don't get me wrong, but its blueprint owes more to 19th century German Romanticism than to genuine historical models. Fantasy wasn't entirely absent back then: 3841 "Dragon's Temple" dates to 1995, two years after 3666 came to the market. It is quite fantastic. I would argue that Violet Vale relates to Novelmore just like 3841 did to 3666. Novelmore is way less realistic than 3666 & co., so Violet Vale can be more extreme than 3841 was. It all makes sense in the bigger picture.
Title: Re: Early 2022 catalogue preview
Post by: Rasputin on October 28, 2021, 02:15:36
Isn’t all playmobil somewhat romanticized until recently

Just look at the older Dino sets compared to the new line

Can’t wait for the jet pack, laser gun, pink & orange football squad
Title: Re: Early 2022 catalogue preview
Post by: Macruran on October 28, 2021, 02:45:09
Fantasy Police and construction

Well someone's got to be enforcing the laws and building the dwellings for all those fairies and dwarves
Title: Re: Early 2022 catalogue preview
Post by: Rasputin on October 28, 2021, 15:06:13
(https://i.postimg.cc/zfx9zXq6/27591-ED8-D97-F-464-D-87-D2-2327-A6-B79-D65.png) (https://postimg.cc/FfJPGvdV)

(https://i.postimg.cc/6qXVFnDX/369-FD6-C0-6085-4404-8-C52-81401-E5801-A8.png) (https://postimg.cc/LYxZ1Y9C)

Looks like the virus  has been spreading

Then look at those new 123 x overs in the new catalog

If the 80’s & 90’s were the “Golden Era”

Then are the 2020’s the “Fantasy Era” ?
Title: Re: Early 2022 catalogue preview
Post by: playmofire on October 28, 2021, 20:03:19
I would like to emphasise your /somewhat/: the classic '90s Playmobil Castle line offers a highly romantic view of medieval life. It's lovely, don't get me wrong, but its blueprint owes more to 19th century German Romanticism than to genuine historical models.

I would politely question that final statement.
Title: Re: Early 2022 catalogue preview
Post by: Klickteryx on October 28, 2021, 21:15:12
the classic '90s Playmobil Castle line offers a highly romantic view of medieval life.[...]its blueprint owes more to 19th century German Romanticism than to genuine historical models.
Would have to disagree here, Germany is full of structures and art from the middle ages, The people who romanticised the period in the late 19th century were well acquainted with the general look of the times. The romanticism you speak of is highlighting the nobility over the masses but even there the early playmobil sets showed many average people doing every day tasks like carrying water in buckets. The buildings and figures were simplified for play and scale but aren't romanticised. Throw in the 90s era with the prison cart, tattered banners etc and it has a darker tone while still being suitably accurate for a generic portrayal of the middle ages.

Compare that with Novelmore which is straight up cyberpunk meets middle ages which is closer to the worlds shown in a lot of anime where the general setting is medieval but with a much stronger emphasis on engineering of the kind that Leonardo da Vinci designed (but mostly didn't get made) and magic. Arguably Novelmore is more romantically inspired in that it totally ignores common people in favour of everyone being a warrior or fancy leader.
Title: Re: Early 2022 catalogue preview
Post by: Oliver on October 28, 2021, 22:10:37
Would have to disagree here, Germany is full of structures and art from the middle ages, The people who romanticised the period in the late 19th century were well acquainted with the general look of the times.

All of Europe is full of structures from the middle ages, and people in the 19th century has absolutely no qualms about 'restoring' them to what they thought they should look like. I don't think Playmobil is especially inauthentic, but a lot of our ideas of both medieval and early-modern buildings come through a filter of the 19th century.
Title: Re: Early 2022 catalogue preview
Post by: Klickteryx on October 29, 2021, 02:44:15
One of the best sources for what the middle ages looked like is the 'Très Riches Heures du Duc de Berry' which includes several paintings dating from the early to later part of the 15th century.

Probably the most interesting images are the ones representing each month of the year:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tr%C3%A8s_Riches_Heures_du_Duc_de_Berry#Calendar_gallery
Title: Re: Early 2022 catalogue preview
Post by: StJohn on October 30, 2021, 10:28:43
I would politely question that final statement.

Well, take colours, for example. The Klickies of 3666 & co. are way too colourful. Dyes and pigments before the Industrial Age were either laborious to produce or the raw materials were rare. Either way, colour was expensive. Bright pigments in particular were hard to find, and some were almost unavailable (blue, for example). Wearing brightly coloured garments was hence a sign of serious wealth, as displayed in the Hours of the Duke of Berry that Klickteryx refers to. Commoners had to do with less conspicuous wear. Dyed garments in earth tones must have been the norm. Lots of browns, therefore – Tahra would have liked it. ;)

Talking of 3666 (and its predecessor 3450): I never get it why it features a medieval house on top of a stonework foundation. The two building techniques are quite distinct: the Fachwerkhaus features walls where a timber framing is filled with other materials (cheap, sturdy, suitable for dwelling), the latter features hewn natural stones (expensive, hardwearing, suitable for castle defences). It's a mismatch. You could actually argue that later Playmobil castles look more realistic than the hallowed 3666!
Title: Re: Early 2022 catalogue preview
Post by: playmofire on October 30, 2021, 14:11:11
Well, you tend to undermine your argument with the illustrations in the book you cite, lots of bright colours there.  And I'd say that the owner of the 3666 would have been wealthy enough to dress his servants in the colours of the klickies in the set.  Clothing was how you displayed your wealth and, especially after the Black Death, wealth shifted downwards to a wider and, therefore, a more colourfully dressed population to some degree, hence the Sumptuary Laws in England.

As for the house element of the 3666 set, over time castles became more domesticated, as it were, as society became more settled so a mix of domestic and military architecture came about.  It may be unusual to have a half-timbered structure so prominent in a castle, but you could certainly find them within the castle enclave.

And let's remember, Playmobil's a toy.
Title: Re: Early 2022 catalogue preview
Post by: Janilew on October 30, 2021, 14:38:15
Well, take colours, for example. The Klickies of 3666 & co. are way too colourful. Dyes and pigments before the Industrial Age were either laborious to produce or the raw materials were rare. Either way, colour was expensive. Bright pigments in particular were hard to find, and some were almost unavailable (blue, for example). Wearing brightly coloured garments was hence a sign of serious wealth, as displayed in the Hours of the Duke of Berry that Klickteryx refers to. Commoners had to do with less conspicuous wear. Dyed garments in earth tones must have been the norm. Lots of browns, therefore – Tahra would have liked it. ;)

Talking of 3666 (and its predecessor 3450): I never get it why it features a medieval house on top of a stonework foundation. The two building techniques are quite distinct: the Fachwerkhaus features walls where a timber framing is filled with other materials (cheap, sturdy, suitable for dwelling), the latter features hewn natural stones (expensive, hardwearing, suitable for castle defences). It's a mismatch. You could actually argue that later Playmobil castles look more realistic than the hallowed 3666!

Just adding my measly two cents here!  :2c:

I might have to disagree on the colors of the poor. It seems to be a common assumption that the poor couldn't make their own colorful clothes. It's actually pretty easy to get color from various plants and even urine (bleh). It's darker, more vibrant hues they couldn't really afford due to the process needed to make them. The hues they did make would fade quicker (and appear lighter) due to the material they wore, like linen. And of course the higher-up classes made certain taboos against them wearing certain colors even if they could afford it. No doubt brown was the most easy dye to make, but I don't think it was as ubiquitous as people think. Yellow, orange, and even some greens seem like they were pretty easy to make.

This link has a list of certain hues and how they were made: https://worldbuilding.stackexchange.com/questions/68763/what-color-dyes-would-be-available-to-the-average-person-in-a-medieval-world (https://worldbuilding.stackexchange.com/questions/68763/what-color-dyes-would-be-available-to-the-average-person-in-a-medieval-world)

And folly on you for blasphemy on our scared 3666!  :loco: But in all seriousness, timbered on stone is not as odd as you think:

Half-timbered house and medieval castle in Josselin, Morbihan, France
(https://i.redd.it/n5cr3mdypuxy.jpg)

Schloss Eller Castle
(https://l450v.alamy.com/450v/dgmr8e/schloss-eller-castle-half-timbered-building-in-the-husbandry-yard-dgmr8e.jpg)

Wartburg Castle
(https://www.timetravelturtle.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/German_Heritage-2014-514_new.jpg)

They're called half-timber and many castles and homes were made like this, most likely because they were cheaper. Some castles were even full timber. The reason why we don't see too many castles like that around, is well...timber doesn't stand the test of time like stone does. Especially after battle.  ;)
Title: Re: Early 2022 catalogue preview
Post by: Oliver on October 30, 2021, 17:33:31
Well, you tend to undermine your argument with the illustrations in the book you cite, lots of bright colours there.
And let's remember, Playmobil's a toy.

Isn't that a bit like showing Architects Digest and Vogue and saying 'This is how the 21st Century was!' ?

I think it is important to remember Playmobil is a toy - which is why you can have wizards and airbuses and fantasy elements. They might not be someone's favoured range, but I can see the appeal to children.

Title: Re: Early 2022 catalogue preview
Post by: playmofire on October 30, 2021, 18:34:34
Timber on stone makes sense as well as you have the stronger material underneath.
Title: Re: Early 2022 catalogue preview
Post by: Rasputin on October 31, 2021, 00:58:35
Weren’t homes in old New York built with stone downstairs and wood above for all the horse poop that pilled up in the street
Title: Re: Early 2022 catalogue preview
Post by: Rasputin on October 31, 2021, 02:07:44
Found it, also it was mostly German immigrants who built them

“ One of the most distinctive features of a classic NYC brownstones is its stoop—a word appropriated from “stoep”, the Dutch word for “stair.” The Dutch built stoops to raise their parlor floor above flood waters; some posit that the New York City stoops were built to raise the parlor floor above a “sea of horse manure.”

An article in Gothamist supports this theory: "In vacant lots, horse manure was piled as high as sixty feet. It lined city streets like banks of snow. In the summer time, it stank to the heavens; when the rains came a soup stream of horse manure flooded the crosswalks and seeped into people’s basement."
Title: Re: Early 2022 catalogue preview
Post by: playmovictorian on November 03, 2021, 02:33:18
Good morning dear Friends  :wave:

I finally got a chance to start catching up with the unread threads in forums today and I read in Klickywelt that Playmobil is set to release a new Victorian theme in 2022 and that it was still hush hush for now  :shhhh:

Since PF is hosting some of the finest Playmo sleuths around, i would love to know more about it  :lens:

I do not believe that I have been that excited about a news in years  :love:

Karim :gent:
Title: Re: Early 2022 catalogue preview
Post by: Oliver on November 03, 2021, 23:28:36
Good morning dear Friends  :wave:

I finally got a chance to start catching up with the unread threads in forums today and I read in Klickywelt that Playmobil is set to release a new Victorian theme in 2022 and that it was still hush hush for now  :shhhh:


I don't check into Klickywelt very much, so this was news to me!

I guess after 9879 (and if that sold reasonably) then it's a definite possibility. It'd be great to see - KW seems to imply it's just the house and furnishing, and the sets I *really* want are the other sets, but it's still a lovely thing. I'd expect a pretty high price point, but recently it's started escalating on the second hand market anyway.
Title: Re: Early 2022 catalogue preview
Post by: Klickteryx on November 04, 2021, 11:42:58
I wont post a bunch of pictures, instead here is a link to a google image search for 'fachwerk burg':

https://www.google.com/search?q=fachwerk+burg&client=firefox-b-d&channel=nrow5&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiuyLjwyf7zAhWkILcAHSa7DdUQ_AUoAXoECAMQAw&biw=1920&bih=908&dpr=1

Title: Re: Early 2022 catalogue preview
Post by: bml87 on November 04, 2021, 15:57:26
Good morning dear Friends  :wave:

I finally got a chance to start catching up with the unread threads in forums today and I read in Klickywelt that Playmobil is set to release a new Victorian theme in 2022 and that it was still hush hush for now  :shhhh:

Since PF is hosting some of the finest Playmo sleuths around, i would love to know more about it  :lens:

I do not believe that I have been that excited about a news in years  :love:

Karim :gent:

Goodness!!!!! I also read it, the Victorian sets will be a part of the PLUS catalogue! Finally I won't have to buy those (ultra) expensive second hand sets anymore! This is fantastic news (even though it's still a rumor, but many people seem to confirm it).

 :wow: :wow: :wow:
Title: Re: Early 2022 catalogue preview
Post by: Rasputin on November 05, 2021, 01:18:24
Question still remains, are the sets going to be classic normal colors (5300 series) or are they going to make them all rainbow bright fantasy colors ?
Title: Re: Early 2022 catalogue preview
Post by: Macruran on November 05, 2021, 01:45:23
Pics or it didn't happen  :picsplz:
Title: Re: Early 2022 catalogue preview
Post by: Janilew on November 05, 2021, 20:48:53
I don't check into Klickywelt very much, so this was news to me!

I guess after 9879 (and if that sold reasonably) then it's a definite possibility. It'd be great to see - KW seems to imply it's just the house and furnishing, and the sets I *really* want are the other sets, but it's still a lovely thing. I'd expect a pretty high price point, but recently it's started escalating on the second hand market anyway.

PARDON?!  :o The Victorians might make a comeback?! I was just lamenting about how they never had any new additions like other sets in YEARS, now you mean to tell me they might, MIGHT have some?! I am both excited and frightened at the same time.

Question still remains, are the sets going to be classic normal colors (5300 series) or are they going to make them all rainbow bright fantasy colors ?

And this is one of the reasons why. I bet it's either a steampunk theme (because Geobra forbid it be just normal) or it's a "haunted" theme to match the gothic nature of many Victorians. Which, to be honest, I wouldn't be entirely against it. I just hope they'll utilize hoop skirts and the new skirted models that can sit.  :love:
Title: Re: Early 2022 catalogue preview
Post by: Macruran on November 06, 2021, 01:06:31
If you don't think the Victorian washerwoman needs a rocket launcher, I'm afraid you're out of step  ;D
Title: Re: Early 2022 catalogue preview
Post by: bml87 on November 06, 2021, 08:12:46
Pics or it didn't happen  :picsplz:

Less than two months until the PLUS catalogue will be released, so we will find out soon! But I tend to believe it is true, when the rumours of the "Enterprise" came out, also many people were doubting it and yet it was released!

In a way it is a huge surprise of course, but I can imagine when Playmobil sees the extreme prices on ebay for the Victorian sets and houses, they know there is a market for it. Of course, this would be the first time since long they finally understand the market...

I just wonder if they'll sell the sets in bags or plain carton boxes? I guess there might be a tiny chance they'll be sold in normal Playmobil boxes, since the rerelease of the Dream Castle (https://www.playmobil.be/nl/droomkasteel/9879.html) also got a normal box.
Title: Re: Early 2022 catalogue preview
Post by: playmovictorian on November 06, 2021, 08:20:37
Good morning dear Friends  :wave:

As per KW, the launch will be in June 2022, the 5300 mansion will be pink, the 5305 lilac and the figures will be in the Ayuma style...

I love how all the Playmo detectives of the world are on the case right now  :lens:

Karim
Title: Re: Early 2022 catalogue preview
Post by: bml87 on November 06, 2021, 08:55:52
Good morning dear Friends  :wave:

As per KW, the launch will be in June 2022, the 5300 mansion will be pink, the 5305 lilac and the figures will be in the Ayuma style...

I love how all the Playmo detectives of the world are on the case right now  :lens:

Karim

That was supposed to be a joke if I’m not mistaken…
Title: Re: Early 2022 catalogue preview
Post by: Oliver on November 06, 2021, 12:05:20
I'd expect it to be exactly the same as the original - though they have been fond of re-issuing Victorian sets in different colours. I'd be most interested if the figures are included. I also think the price will be pretty punchy, but that was also the case when it was released first time around.
Title: Re: Early 2022 catalogue preview
Post by: Rasputin on November 06, 2021, 15:44:50
Looking back at all the western & medieval re-releases the colors were accurate but there were no klickies . The prices were not too outrageous

I’m hopeful the boys & girls at KW were feverishly whispering in the ears of the elves at Geobra to not mess up a true playmobil golden era classic
Title: Re: Early 2022 catalogue preview
Post by: Macruran on November 06, 2021, 16:00:33
Looking back at all the western & medieval re-releases the colors were accurate but there were no klickies . The prices were not too outrageous

The Merry Men's Feast was a full copy with all klickies included, so there is hope  :uhoh: :prays:
Title: Re: Early 2022 catalogue preview
Post by: Oliver on November 06, 2021, 16:09:08
Looking back at all the western & medieval re-releases the colors were accurate but there were no klickies . The prices were not too outrageous


That's what makes me think they will re-issue in the original colours - I can only think of the Victorian Car 6420 re-issued in green and Victorian Truck 6349 in green and white that were different. The park fence was reissued in the paler cream, but I think the Victorian Mansion 5301 was still in production then, so it would have matched that.

I wouldn't have expected the figures, except that they have begun to include them in re-issues/Plus range.

I'd expect 5300 to be at least £200-250, since the blue dollshouse 70205 was £160 (I didn't actually realise that had been cancelled already!)
Title: Re: Early 2022 catalogue preview
Post by: Rasputin on November 06, 2021, 17:20:12
The Merry Men's Feast was a full copy with all klickies included, so there is hope  :uhoh: :prays:

Yes indeed , A set I’m still buying up on every order . Unfortunately it goes on sale often and has been lingering on the US playmo site for a while .

It sure would be great to have more Victorian civilians , as in the medieval theme I could use a lot more peasants and less royals or affluent people
Title: Re: Early 2022 catalogue preview
Post by: Tiermann on November 06, 2021, 21:15:16
The thing about rereleasing in original colors is that it is cheaper and easier for them. When they change the color they have to create a new ETN (item number) and do extra paperwork to make it happen. Rereleasing the original is quicker and less effort, so my guess is that is most likely to happen.
Title: Re: Early 2022 catalogue preview
Post by: collectobart on November 06, 2021, 23:51:01
The thing about rereleasing in original colors is that it is cheaper and easier for them. When they change the color they have to create a new ETN (item number) and do extra paperwork to make it happen. Rereleasing the original is quicker and less effort, so my guess is that is most likely to happen.

Yes, only thing is that for these older sets the plastic color palette revision that happened a while ago makes that certainly the less saturated or old-fashioned hues have been discontinued, replaced or upgraded. So a 1:1 re-release will not be in the cards anyhow.
Title: Re: Early 2022 catalogue preview
Post by: Basie10 on November 07, 2021, 03:00:06
Yay :love: Everyone's favourite theme. Hopefully with some of the originals and a few updates (what's the bet we see some Peaky Blinders).
Title: Re: Early 2022 catalogue preview
Post by: Rasputin on November 07, 2021, 03:18:48
Peaky Blinders ? As in the show of Shelby’s ?
Title: Re: Early 2022 catalogue preview
Post by: Basie10 on November 07, 2021, 06:31:32
Yes. The real peaky blinders were from the 1890s rather than just after the Great War.
Title: Re: Early 2022 catalogue preview
Post by: Janilew on November 07, 2021, 17:22:19
The thing about rereleasing in original colors is that it is cheaper and easier for them. When they change the color they have to create a new ETN (item number) and do extra paperwork to make it happen. Rereleasing the original is quicker and less effort, so my guess is that is most likely to happen.

That does make a lot of sense. All they have to do is literally copy and paste. Anything else is just needless extra work for a product that just might not do well...at best. At worst... we revolt. Still, it'd be interesting to see any new sets for the theme, but it's most likely not gonna happen.

Although, I'd love to get the patio set again as it's vanished piece by piece over the years.  :-[
Title: Re: Early 2022 catalogue preview
Post by: tahra on November 07, 2021, 20:24:36
The thing about rereleasing in original colors is that it is cheaper and easier for them. When they change the color they have to create a new ETN (item number) and do extra paperwork to make it happen. Rereleasing the original is quicker and less effort, so my guess is that is most likely to happen.

Well... back then we didn't get the smaller house because it's so alike the 5300.. If they do the same colors, I'd like the small house.. though.. still a waste.

I would MUCH prefer different colors.


(not a favorite theme here though... maybe it's just me?)
Title: Re: Early 2022 catalogue preview
Post by: blondeziggy2 on November 07, 2021, 21:56:39
That's what makes me think they will re-issue in the original colours - I can only think of the Victorian Car 6420 re-issued in green and Victorian Truck 6349 in green and white that were different. The park fence was reissued in the paler cream, but I think the Victorian Mansion 5301 was still in production then, so it would have matched that.

I wouldn't have expected the figures, except that they have begun to include them in re-issues/Plus range.

I'd expect 5300 to be at least £200-250, since the blue dollshouse 70205 was £160 (I didn't actually realise that had been cancelled already!)

Is the blue dollhouse 70205 being discontinued?
Title: Re: Early 2022 catalogue preview
Post by: Oliver on November 07, 2021, 23:38:14
Is the blue dollhouse 70205 being discontinued?

The UK site shows it as 'not available' so I assumed it had been, but maybe it's just supply issues
Title: Re: Early 2022 catalogue preview
Post by: Rasputin on November 08, 2021, 13:49:41
I seem to have forgotten that  the Victorian theme already had been re-released in a TRU Christmas set and I have dozens of them stashed away somewhere

Title: Re: Early 2022 catalogue preview
Post by: Rasputin on November 08, 2021, 13:53:54
(https://i.postimg.cc/wB5m2vBh/64384-CE6-8-FE7-490-C-B87-A-C154-B6-E002-D4.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
Title: Re: Early 2022 catalogue preview
Post by: Rasputin on November 08, 2021, 13:57:37
Klickies, vehicles, very close colors, good value and available in the US only for a change

Victorian FAO Schwartz 5955
Title: Re: Early 2022 catalogue preview
Post by: Rasputin on November 08, 2021, 14:09:09
https://www.ebay.com/itm/353640389140?hash=item52569c1a14:g:eoEAAOSwdP9fVC8~

https://www.ebay.com/p/2254316128?iid=313244839493

$350-$375 MISB

They were $100 new, then discounted to $50 at TRU

So from $50 to $350 is that 600% increase ?
Title: Re: Early 2022 catalogue preview
Post by: GrahamB on November 08, 2021, 17:23:58
For the sake of clarity, Rasputin is discussing former set 5955, not something confirmed for release in 2022, not yet at any rate. But it is a precedent for geobra reissuing a Victorian-themed set.  :love:
Title: Re: Early 2022 catalogue preview
Post by: playmovictorian on November 08, 2021, 19:19:05
Thank you for the clarification dear Graham  :wave:
Title: Re: Early 2022 catalogue preview
Post by: playmovictorian on November 08, 2021, 19:21:25
The FAO Schwartz set was a lovely one at a very good price indeed when it was released in the US :love:
Title: Re: Early 2022 catalogue preview
Post by: Rasputin on November 08, 2021, 21:26:23
For the sake of clarity, Rasputin is discussing former set 5955, not something confirmed for release in 2022, not yet at any rate. But it is a precedent for geobra reissuing a Victorian-themed set.  :love:

Yes thanks for clarifying, I forget we’re all not Playmo-nuts and there are many new members
Title: Re: Early 2022 catalogue preview
Post by: GrahamB on November 09, 2021, 07:49:53
When I saw the picture of the beautiful 5955 you posted, Rasputin, I thought for a moment you had found a picture online of a future release! But, alas, no  :(
Title: Re: Early 2022 catalogue preview
Post by: Rasputin on November 09, 2021, 16:13:27
I certainly wouldn’t be complaining if Geobra re-re-released these Victorian pieces. Good combo of house parts, fences, vehicles and klickies.

The price was reasonable and best of all the colors …..were NORMAL !

It just shows that someone there in the upper office has style and class (or FAO requested this layout)

It’s possible to satisfy the nutty collectors demanding standards

Perhaps the Nuremberg Guards someday for a particular Greek nut


Title: Re: Early 2022 catalogue preview
Post by: StJohn on November 12, 2021, 08:28:42
Apparently, Victorian houses 5300 and 5305 will be reissued, alongside a whole range of interiors. Also a circus. Pics from the Playmobil Plus (formerly: DS) catalogue 2022 were posted at Amclicks: http://amclicks.org/foro/novedades-playmobil/nuevo-catalogo-playmobil-plus-2022/
Title: Re: Early 2022 catalogue preview
Post by: bml87 on November 12, 2021, 09:04:00
OH MY GOODNESS!!! Best Playmobil day in history!!!!!!   :o :o :o
 
I don’t have words for this!!!! Woooow!

And now we know where that tall clown comes from, that tahra was able to buy. Beautiful circus acts!!!!!
Title: Re: Early 2022 catalogue preview
Post by: Redmao on November 12, 2021, 10:31:36
I'm so glad that they are reissuing the victorian rooms. Such fantastic pieces filled with great potential.
Title: Re: Early 2022 catalogue preview
Post by: Eplay on November 13, 2021, 06:15:18
This is great news!  :D :D :D
I hope that it will be possible to order spare parts from these sets.
Title: Re: Early 2022 catalogue preview
Post by: Rasputin on November 13, 2021, 14:25:55
Great news indeed, thanks for the link to the pictures

And hopefully along with the re-release of the 5300 we get a bunch of DS (now know as PLUS ) sets …Victorian car/truck again in black, street lamp again, photographer, outdoor patio, party, tricycle, street vendor , hobo & beat down cop, 5300 xtra floor, etc……

The circus is nice but I would have been even more excited if it were the classic version…..but those were more animal centric and a taboo these days

Great news thanks again  :love:
Title: Re: Early 2022 catalogue preview
Post by: Pynedor on December 04, 2021, 19:22:38
Thank you all for posting this information here and in the other related thread!

While I agree that some of these sets look very unlike the more traditional Playmobil sets we're used to, I am glad that there are new sets planned! It's much better than the alternative.

The Series 21 Fi?ures look great! The cloaked vampire, warrior with gold armour, fencer, gargoyle, angelic warrior, blue queen, ninja girl, and Indian woman look fantastic!

The Playmo-Friends, Special Plus, and DuoPack sets have some nice figures too. The harpist is great. The red super hero has some nice parts; those flames need to be used with a wizard! The Arab man and woman are really nice too. The Snake Enchantress might be the best new figure of all though! :D

And, the Classic Mini and 911 Carrera look fantastic! Now that we have Porsche and Mercedes sets, I'm still waiting for some classic BMWs to be released though! A 2002 or E30 would be so cool. :D
Title: Re: Early 2022 catalogue preview
Post by: Rasputin on December 06, 2021, 02:16:03
A nice classic Isetta would be awesome

But a BMW 1972 2002 Tii

Or a 635CSI
Title: Re: Early 2022 catalogue preview
Post by: GrahamB on December 06, 2021, 09:54:50
Ooh! Can we have a  Robin Reliant (https://www.stratford-herald.com/_media/img/750x0/XAR6FQ5IGAFV0K32PX87.jpg) too?
Title: Re: Early 2022 catalogue preview
Post by: Bolingbroke on December 06, 2021, 11:13:56
I want the Mustang from Bullit most of all. The Chitty Chitty Bang Bang maybe.
Title: Re: Early 2022 catalogue preview
Post by: Rasputin on December 06, 2021, 17:20:35
Geobra already pays the licensing fees

So how about a 959 rally edition

(https://i.postimg.cc/jjRXknpt/043133-F7-3770-4-B41-9-AA8-94734281-BC11.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)

Or a 356 speedster , James Dean included

(https://i.postimg.cc/9FWy2HxY/46727-ABE-2-A7-B-46-ED-8220-9-CE2-FBF5-EFF9.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)

I love the Chitty Chitty Bang Bang car idea

(https://i.postimg.cc/qMP0n498/9939-FEE1-FF5-C-40-D7-8661-8-B7-A5-E964-F35.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)pix host (https://postimages.org/)
Title: Re: Early 2022 catalogue preview
Post by: Pynedor on December 07, 2021, 00:16:18
Those would all be great!

But a BMW 1972 2002 Tii

Or a 635CSI

Yes! That would be more my style. :D