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General => Report & Review => Topic started by: Playmo_80 on October 26, 2011, 18:45:25

Title: Articulated prototype
Post by: Playmo_80 on October 26, 2011, 18:45:25
for people who likes articulated prototype I did find this web page. The playmobil has articulate knees, elbows and hips.
http://mergrand.tuning.over-blog.com/article-playmobil-articule-p-m-p-one-66123707.html (http://mergrand.tuning.over-blog.com/article-playmobil-articule-p-m-p-one-66123707.html)
the translation: I dreamed of it when I was kid...My dream became reality 35 years later
Title: Re: Articulated prototype
Post by: Wesley Myers on October 26, 2011, 19:00:17
I think if Hans Beck had seen this he would have been all over it!

It might not have been allowed in the first year or two (due to the company struggling monetary wise at the time) but this would have been THE BOMB!
Title: Re: Articulated prototype
Post by: Wolf Knight on October 26, 2011, 19:17:29
It doesn't look that bad, is it a custom or an unverified rumor for the future  ???
Title: Re: Articulated prototype
Post by: Ace on October 26, 2011, 19:28:30
It doesn't look that bad, is it a custom or an unverified rumor for the future  ???

I'm wondering the same thing my self, Wolf Knight. If they just cover up those screws on the joints those Klickies would be perfect  :love:!! 
Ace :brownhair:
Title: Re: Articulated prototype
Post by: tahra on October 26, 2011, 19:41:02
Well, I think it's kinda creepy...
Title: Re: Articulated prototype
Post by: rms008 on October 26, 2011, 20:20:35
im with tahra on this
ryan :blackhair:
Title: Re: Articulated prototype
Post by: Bill Blackhurst on October 26, 2011, 20:26:46
I think it has possibilities! :)9
Title: Re: Articulated prototype
Post by: bonniebeth on October 26, 2011, 20:27:33
They're kind of cool. Wouldn't want them all to look like that, but kinda cool.
Title: Re: Articulated prototype
Post by: tahra on October 26, 2011, 20:32:15
Well.. if we wanted articulation or realism, we wouldn't love the little guys, IMO

And we do :love:
Title: Re: Articulated prototype
Post by: Luis on October 26, 2011, 21:06:37
i'm working on a photo story and have realized that the lack of factory-made facial expressions and articulations in a klicky can make a picture very challenging when it comes to relying on body language...however i don't think it's impossible to make klickies' bodies express what we want, and despite this custom is very well done *i* would NEVER like our klickies to have movable body parts...
Title: Re: Articulated prototype
Post by: Jimbo on October 26, 2011, 21:08:57
If the joints were refined a bit, it would be cool.  Also all the joints would
be easier to break me thinks. :2c:
Title: Re: Articulated prototype
Post by: WarriorOfToys on October 26, 2011, 21:39:12
I do not like the way they look at all.
Playmobil would have to do something very different...
But If I saw these as the new sets I would stop collecting. :no:
The only change I want are separately movable legs. :)9
Title: Re: Articulated prototype
Post by: grangel on October 26, 2011, 22:42:43
I think my klickies do not like that future it looks like puppet!!!
Only the strings are missing.......! :o
Please leave my klickies alone......!! :hmm:
Go away you and your dreams........!!
I'm armed.......I'll shoot you!!! :o
Title: Re: Articulated prototype
Post by: Bill Blackhurst on October 26, 2011, 23:12:39
Well.. if we wanted articulation or realism, we wouldn't love the little guys, IMO

And we do :love:

I bet you don't like the new speedo & bikini swim suit figures either, do you :hmm:?
Title: Re: Articulated prototype
Post by: Hadoque on October 26, 2011, 23:20:26
Hmm....I'm not sure weither to like or dislike it.  ???

If this should ever be produced (probably not; it is just a custom, not a company-prototype I'm sure), quality of the moveable parts should be very very good, and much  improved over today's standards: too many brandnew klickies come with too loose arms & legs already, and need to be dismantled to fix the problem.
Title: Re: Articulated prototype
Post by: bonniebeth on October 27, 2011, 00:08:30
I'm not sure which way I go on it. I definitely would NOT want them to all look like this. But for certain klickys, like archers, it could be interesting. Just like the bikini klickys are used for a few certain purposes.
Title: Re: Articulated prototype
Post by: Lindama on October 27, 2011, 00:49:43
I would be very happy to see articulated Klickies personally. I would like to have the ability to pose them more. I think they would need to be more sophisticated than the protoype shown however, but think it is a good idea.
Title: Re: Articulated prototype
Post by: tonguello on October 27, 2011, 02:28:47
I hate them sorry.... they don't look Playmobil
Title: Re: Articulated prototype
Post by: Bill Blackhurst on October 27, 2011, 03:04:06
I'm not sure which way I go on it. I definitely would NOT want them to all look like this. But for certain klickys, like archers, it could be interesting. Just like the bikini klickys are used for a few certain purposes.

I agree. That's a great idea to have a selection based on specific purposes.
Title: Re: Articulated prototype
Post by: BlackPearl2006 on October 27, 2011, 06:04:17
i really like them!  however, I would love for them to be ADDED to the current clicky types available, not to purely REPLACE the old ones.  Admittedly, though, that is more for nostalgic reasons than practical ones.  I don't want to see the classic clicky form disappear completely.

disadvantages I can foresee:  not as easy to stand the clickies, particularly in large rows/regiments if making armies, because the legs/knees will have to be accurately posed in order to get the clickies to stand.  For me, I would prefer the classic bodies to use for mass armies and cannon fodder, but use the articulated clickies for specific poses (like kneeling riflemen, trench crawlers, etc...).

major advantage besides better poses, is it opens a bigger array of possibilities for stop motion films.  Until now, stop motion clickies "glide" along the ground as if on roller skates since there is no way to make them walk without articulated legs. 

I wonder, though, how easily they can be disassembled for customizing.  I doubt the hans beck method will work for disassembly.
Title: Re: Articulated prototype
Post by: Bolingbroke on October 27, 2011, 06:55:53
THe joints would become loose in time ... or even worse, they would be loose out of the box. Then of course people would start clamouring for more joints, and the klicky would end up like one of these superhero action figures you see in comic stores: so many articulation points that it harms the actual sculpt. And what for ... for the figure to be able to bend over backwards and kiss it's own bottom? I can understand the functionality of a bendy elbow, but the rest ...

 ::)

I mean ... what's the use of individually articulated legs? A can-can diorama?
Title: Re: Articulated prototype
Post by: cheng on October 27, 2011, 07:10:33
I agree. That's a great idea to have a selection based on specific purposes.

altho I usually say 'never say never' (like the new Fi?ures were unthinkable in those days :P) but this will be too extreme a move for Geobra ;)

I'm happy with a few permanently bent elbows...for a golfing klicky...or a prisoner with manacled wrists...and of course most importantly, firing rifles/arrows (afterall there are arms that cant raise higher than klicky-shoulder-levels, blocked by parts on their shoulders)
Title: Re: Articulated prototype
Post by: BlackPearl2006 on October 27, 2011, 07:18:34
THe joints would become loose in time ... or even worse, they would be loose out of the box. Then of course people would start clamouring for more joints, and the klicky would end up like one of these superhero action figures you see in comic stores: so many articulation points that it harms the actual sculpt. And what for ... for the figure to be able to bend over backwards and kiss it's own bottom? I can understand the functionality of a bendy elbow, but the rest ...

 ::)

I mean ... what's the use of individually articulated legs? A can-can diorama?

I own several action figures that boast several points of articulation, and with modern materials I've noticed in most contemporary articulated toys, joints becoming loose doesn't seem to be a problem.  however it might be a problem if playmobil continues to use the cheaper plastics they've been using for some of their more current clickies (or even the older plastic which was prone to joint wear and looseness).

practical-wise, assuming the joints aren't prone to looseness, actually, poseable clickies can be very practical, including being able to do a can-can diorama.  I know, personally, I can appreciate the bending knees so that I can have two rows of firing redcoats:  one in back, standing, and one in front, kneeling.  And elbows would be awesome for many poses current clickes cannot do, including holding a rifle the proper way, for strafing the enemy, for holding a bow and arrow for archers to have better poses, for musician clickies to be able to not just hold their instruments at their sides, but be able to actually be posed PLAYING the instruments (violin, cello, guitar, saxaphone.)  And even the pianist could do with some bending knees so he can sit properly at the piano and operate the foot pedals (instead of sitting with his legs straight forward up off the ground).  The possibilities are endless!!!!  These are just to name a few!
Title: Re: Articulated prototype
Post by: Bolingbroke on October 27, 2011, 07:30:45
I think we're missing the point here and looking at it exclusively from a grown-up collector's perspecvtive. Was there EVER a child in this world who felt shortchanged because his klicky pianist couldn't reach the pedals of his piano with his legs?

besides the fact that these points of articulation would probably drive the price of a klicky up.
Title: Re: Articulated prototype
Post by: BlackPearl2006 on October 27, 2011, 07:45:49
I think we're missing the point here and looking at it exclusively from a grown-up collector's perspecvtive. Was there EVER a child in this world who felt shortchanged because his klicky pianist couldn't reach the pedals of his piano with his legs?

besides the fact that these points of articulation would probably drive the price of a klicky up.

my daughter has always tried to reconcile the piano player's limited leg pose with his ability to play the piano and look right doing so.  Even on the box picture, the clicky has to be akwardly fenageled to sit on the edge of the chair precariously so the legs can be bent at a 45 degree angle to reach the pedals..but then it doesn't stay on the seat if you even breathe on it, and falls off.  and my son often tries to pose his medieval archers and complains that they can't hold any arrows or face sideways to shoot.  And he's five.

these would have practical purposes.  And kids (myself included at that age) do often want more realism in their toys.  There's no denying that.  Ironically, I think its the nostalgic adult collectors who would be more the ones to be resistant to a new articulated clicky.  I think a kid would appreciate it even more. 
Title: Re: Articulated prototype
Post by: Bolingbroke on October 27, 2011, 09:00:03
But why would a kid want to POSE anything? Posing is for us adults who want our action figures to look good on our desks or shelves. When I was young, imagination kicked in, and even though my cowboy held his rifle at an improbable angle, to me it still looked right. Or maybe it has to do with the fact that it was different back then ... and we had more imagination than today's kids? Could it be that?
Title: Re: Articulated prototype
Post by: Giorginetto on October 27, 2011, 10:42:38
I dont like it at all. Playmobil klikcies should have stayed the same as the originals with various add ons and no painted or permanement parts . Thast my view and that wiull always be my view . and the smiley should always be there . These prototypes are mostrosities , its not playmobil they are awful , Hans Bekc woudl never approve !!!!!!!!


The voice of evolution ... stopped in 1978 ...  :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: Articulated prototype
Post by: Bill Blackhurst on October 28, 2011, 00:00:20
There are child perfectionists out there who would truly enjoy life like poses! Some grown up collectors too ;D!
Title: Re: Articulated prototype
Post by: bonniebeth on October 28, 2011, 03:44:11
Yeah, I was a perfectionist child, and I would have enjoyed being able to pose klickys. In fact, I think when I was a kid I would have been all for it. Now I'm a little more skeptical, and certainly wouldn't want them all to look like that.
Title: Re: Articulated prototype
Post by: cheng on October 28, 2011, 05:54:33
I do need bent knees and elbows sometimes...maybe someday PM will use some kind of new bendy materials that can only bend at the joints just for certain figures..not all.
I still keep all these figures....but they'll also make some of your stomachs turn :P
Title: Re: Articulated prototype
Post by: WarriorOfToys on October 28, 2011, 13:58:04
If it was just the arms that bent, I think I would like it on some figures...
But they should cover the joint (and maybe the whole arm) with a soft bendable rubber/plastic.
So we don't have to see the weird looking joint piece. :-\
But not the legs... :no:
Title: Re: Articulated prototype
Post by: playmo1989 on October 28, 2011, 21:45:42
. And what for ... for the figure to be able to bend over backwards and kiss it's own bottom? 
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
 
 ;) ;)
Title: Re: Articulated prototype
Post by: playmo1989 on October 28, 2011, 21:47:43
I think my klickies do not like that future it looks like puppet!!!
Only the strings are missing.......! :o
Please leave my klickies alone......!! :hmm:
Go away you and your dreams........!!
I'm armed.......I'll shoot you!!! :o

that's exactly what i was thinking !!!! exept of the last... or maybe  hmmm...  ;D ;D ;D ;D